Why are people "OK" with Obamas LACK OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE!>!??!

[headhuntersix]

Thanks for getting us back on track Hedge......good post. i think if u commanded a Div or like Petreaus ran a major war, that would qualify u more so then Joe the average grunt.

Hedge are u in the US, if so, did u see Frontline last night. It was all on Afghanistan and would have answered all ur questions. It was excellant. If not, its called War Briefing.
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/

[slaveboy1980]

Bush is a terrorist....ok enough ur deluded. 
He's just like Bin laden...Bush lied people died......what did I miss. Where are u from....U must live next to Jag in fuzzy bunny land where everything is nice and peaceful....shitbag terrorists keep their word and America is the big bad ogre that is the real bad guy. North Korea and Iran really want a peaceful nuke program, Islam is really a peaceful religion, Europeans aren't mean,spiteful and jealous of the US, not to mention don't have centuries of blood on their hands. Libs don't want wealth redistribution, and Obama isn't full of shit. It must be really fun in fuzzy bunny land.   How old are u?

lol do you work for Fox news...?

epic simple mindedness

you must live next to uncle bubba and crackwhore suzy. you sound like trailer park trash.

[headhuntersix]

No I live in the real world.....I imagine ur station of choice is MSNBC right?  Funny u lib douchbags always resort quickly to name calling because u can't defend ur naive and silly world view. Couple that with ur blame America first bullshit and dove balls...and we have a world class lib idiot...congrats.

[240 is Back]

Mccain lives in fuzzy bunny land.

he said he'll chase Bin laden to the gates of hell...

but he refuses to cross the pakistan border and kill him in the cave he's hiding in.

[drkaje]

Move the Palestinians to Jordan...Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc...let them help out their muslim brothers...or could it be that that they know the whiny worthless palestinians are not worth the effort.

It's the displaced Palestinians that are messing up things for everybody. All of the Middle East was better before the UN decided to redress the Holocaust with land, especially Lebanon.

If you believe the jews are eternally entitled to the land, what's your opinion on native Americans reclaiming their land in America? Most people feel their own families having to move would be different and since that region is so far away we would have any of them looking for a free place to stay on our couch. Maybe we should give Manhattan back to the Indians and see if other Americans would help their brothers out with places to stay.

Having two sets of rules is one of the things that helps this problem to continue.

[Dos Equis]

I would attack Osama in Switzerland, LOL!

Me too, but neither one of us would be announcing it to the world months in advance. 

[drkaje]

Me too, but neither one of us would be announcing it to the world months in advance. 

I'd simply say "no place is safe on earth for you futhermuckers" and basically do what Israel did with the Munich bombers. I wouldn't be re-elected and other countries would be mad forever but we'd get them. Anyone considering harboring terrorists would only have to look at the scorched earth and collateral damage around them to think twice. I wouldn't be a 'drop bombs one day and food the next' kind of guy.

[Dos Equis]

I'd simply say "no place is safe on earth for you futhermuckers" and basically do what Israel did with the Munich bombers. I wouldn't be re-elected and other countries would be mad forever but we'd get them. Anyone considering harboring terrorists would only have to look at the scorched earth and collateral damage around them to think twice. I wouldn't be a 'drop bombs one day and food the next' kind of guy.

Word. 

[Dos Equis]

It's the guy who authored the ratings system that we've been discussing for the last several posts.

Is that his picture?  lol. . . .

I take it you have no idea who the guy is either. 

[drkaje]

Giving a special division of the CIA carte blanche and pre-signing their pardons would go a long way, LOL!

Once people understood we were serious and unwilling to negotiate or apologize things would change. It would be more draconian than the public has tolerance for but they would be gotten. And no, I'm not part Romanian, LOL! I just get that there are circumstances where it is better to be feared than loved.

[headhuntersix]

I'd simply say "no place is safe on earth for you futhermuckers" and basically do what Israel did with the Munich bombers. I wouldn't be re-elected and other countries would be mad forever but we'd get them. Anyone considering harboring terrorists would only have to look at the scorched earth and collateral damage around them to think twice. I wouldn't be a 'drop bombs one day and food the next' kind of guy.

We're doing this with AQ....basically if we find a terror group that has become linked with AQ, we go after them. This happened in Libya. There was a group attempting to overthrow the gov, not huge but had some talent. They decided to ally themselves with AQ. We then made it clear to Libya and these guys that they now fell under our GWOT definition and would soon be coming after them. Elements inside the group split and they ripped each other apart. Everybody invloved was happy.

[Decker]

Thanks for getting us back on track Hedge......good post. i think if u commanded a Div or like Petreaus ran a major war, that would qualify u more so then Joe the average grunt.

Hedge are u in the US, if so, did u see Frontline last night. It was all on Afghanistan and would have answered all ur questions. It was excellant. If not, its called War Briefing.
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/

Why would you think that?

The only thing Petraeus's experience indicates is that he can command a division.  That's not the presidency.  That's something entirely different. 

[Decker]

Is that his picture?  lol. . . .

I take it you have no idea who the guy is either. 

That's Nathan Thurm.

"This was a character created by Martin Short. A shady lawyer, Thurm was a chain-smoker, quite paranoid, and constantly in denial about his paranoia. "I'm not being defensive. You're the one who's being defensive." When questioned, his catch phrase often included, "It's so funny to me that you would think..." He would also look into the camera and express his puzzlement at the questioner by asking, "Is it me, or is it him? It's him, right?" Other times, he would deny an accusation, then immediately reverse his position when the accuser reaffirmed the statement. "No, it isn't!" ("Yes it is.") "I know that! Why wouldn't I know that? I'm well aware of that!"

Perhaps the best known appearance of Thurm was in a 1984 SNL sketch that was a send-up of 60 Minutes. Harry Shearer played Mike Wallace, accusing Thurm of being involved in corporate corruption. Thurm of course denied everything and nervously tried to turn the tables on Wallace."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Thurm#Nathan_Thurm

When asked about an incriminating relationship to MR. X and in spite of a sworn affadavit to the contrary, he responds, "I don't know who that is..."

[headhuntersix]

He commanded an entire Air Assult Div in 2003 and won a losing war in 2006-2008, now he heads CENTCOM and will eventually be Head of the Joint chiefs.....much like Colin Powell. Ike did pretty well.  

[Decker]

He commanded an entire Air Assult Div in 2003 and won a losing war in 2006-2008, now he heads CENTCOM and will eventually be Head of the Joint chiefs.....much like Colin Powell. Ike did pretty well.  

The presidency is nothing like military governance.

Ike did well?  How about President Grant?

[Dos Equis]

Why would you think that?

The only thing Petraeus's experience indicates is that he can command a division.  That's not the presidency.  That's something entirely different. 

It's not entirely different when it comes to being Commander in Chief. 

[headhuntersix]

The presidency is nothing like military governance.

Ike did well?  How about President Grant?

Being as we were still trying to put back the country after a Civil war..not so good but then I'm not about to try and go back that far. Ike did fine...whats the problem.

[slaveboy1980]

No I live in the real world.....I imagine ur station of choice is MSNBC right?  Funny u lib douchbags always resort quickly to name calling because u can't defend ur naive and silly world view. Couple that with ur blame America first bullshit and dove balls...and we have a world class lib idiot...congrats.

ok i take that as a yes, i see you have swallowed all of their lies and propaganda. america is doing a good job in creating a new generation of terrorists.
success in the war against terrorism? killing thousands of innocent people to solve a problem you in part created yourself? and hey the last 8 years have been real successful years for the republicans.ehh?.lol....zero understanding of the outside world. congrats for fucking up america too.

and all this lib talk basically says your just as fundamentalist as those crazy ass muslim fundamentalists....same kind of mentality, different religions.

[garebear]

No I live in the real world.....I imagine ur station of choice is MSNBC right?  Funny u lib douchbags always resort quickly to name calling because u can't defend ur naive and silly world view. Couple that with ur blame America first bullshit and dove balls...and we have a world class lib idiot...congrats.

You're quite the realist. Wouldn't you say?

[Decker]

Being as we were still trying to put back the country after a Civil war..not so good but then I'm not about to try and go back that far. Ike did fine...whats the problem.

The problem is that military leadership does indicate fitness for the presidency.  They are 2 different animals with different demands.

[mogulgangi]

Iraq,iran,afghan,terrorists etc etc etc. REAL ISSUES. I dont get it, would you want a Dr. operating on you with 20+ yrs experience, or just 2?

McCain - much military experience and knowledge

Obama - 

Im kinda confused here... am i suppost to feel "secure" knowing Obama will 'deal' with terrorists accordingly?

YOU CANT NEGOTIATE  THROUGH "TALKS" WITH PEOPLE THAT CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!

thank god someone else besides me has a brain....good thinking my man....only problem, if obama gets elected and we go to war...THERE WILL BE A DRAFT...gotta prevent that

[mogulgangi]

I've voted republican my whole life... until now.

This repub ticket is a clusterfvck, let's be honest.

People mostly support McCain becuase they hate Obama so bad.

They refuse to admit they're trying to elect a senile old man on drugs, and a dim religious zealout in Palin.




Okay, back to ignoring politics for a week for me 

ive voted democrat up until this election...im not voting for mccain because i hate obama...Obama is a great person..connects with people in a different level BUT...u cant pik someone like OBAMA when we are fighting a war and we are in a crisis that we are in now....this is the most important presidental election of all time(as im pretty sure u know) ..u cant just hand it to someone who has never had power in his life....impossible...i would vote for obama in a diff period..but not this one...i dont care who does what and what candidate is going to do what...all that matter is that you have to choose experience over new talent....

if u were a nfl team..and u had the first round pik....ur team is shit, ur not makin money, ur about to sell it offf....who are u going to choose....the guy that runs a 4.5, benches a billion poounds with no actual playing time in his carrer.....or the the guy who isnt as athletic but has put it on the line year after year, knows what to do in time of pressure, and knows where to go when there is walls closing him in.and is a proven winner...u choose the guy that has been thru it all ....simple..u dont gamble in bad times...


there is no way u can tell me this analogy has to intelligence behind it

fuk off haters....

[mogulgangi]

Mccain lives in fuzzy bunny land.

he said he'll chase Bin laden to the gates of hell...

but he refuses to cross the pakistan border and kill him in the cave he's hiding in.

pretty nasty person u are.....u may not like mccain, but him respect for the pure fact hes been a patriot since the day he was born.....has put his life on the line for the security of this country......
i know u dont have the balls to do that...

[Option D]

pretty nasty person u are.....u may not like mccain, but him respect for the pure fact hes been a patriot since the day he was born.....has put his life on the line for the security of this country......
i know u dont have the balls to do that...

So has my father who has been in 3 tours in NAM dont make him qualified to be president...

[headhuntersix]

Its part of the bigger picture....McCain served in Vietnam, served in Congress for a long time...big picture...just like the small and murky picture Obama projects.