again phils arms dont look as impressive in some angles, mainly arms up poses like the fdb and rdb. but compare a mm picture with both men, or a side tri and its a way different story. just look at them standing relaxed and see how much thicker phils arms look especialy from the back due to his huge bowing tris. darrem has really big peaked biceps, thats it. his forearms and tris are small and lightly boned, sure his tris are ripped but still look small next to bb who actualy have all around big arms.