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Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« on: November 01, 2008, 12:20:49 PM »
I heard one of the ways Bill Phillips got the start up money for EAS was through selling fake/counterfeit steroids?  Is there any truth to that? 

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 12:26:10 PM »
he wrote a book back in the mid 90's called The Anabolic Reference Guide and the rumors are that he used to sell but who knows, he also published the magazine Muscle Media 2000 which at one time was a pretty hardcore magazine.

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 12:30:16 PM »
you don't make a lot of money selling steroids.

exept if you pay them really fucking cheap and even then, you won't get "rich" selling steroids.


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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 12:33:22 PM »
you don't make a lot of money selling steroids.

exept if you pay them really fucking cheap and even then, you won't get "rich" selling steroids.


not unless you're moving mass quantities of it and even then there's not a big enough market for it in any place to get really rich from it.

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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 12:38:52 PM »
not unless you're moving mass quantities of it and even then there's not a big enough market for it in any place to get really rich from it.

exactly.

guys can live well from that if they have a lot of clients but most steroids dealer from my area just do it so they can pay for their own juice

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 12:44:46 PM »
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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 12:54:48 PM »
Here are a few Bill Phillips rumors that went around over the years:

1) He used money from steroid sales and a family loan(his family is very well off) to finance his first news letter. From there he hooked up with Met-rx(also rumored to contain clenbuterol in early batches) which lead to the original Muscle Media 2000.

It was said that he used his steroid connections to various sports players to help gain their endorsement of MM2K and its products.

2) He once stole a large amount of steroids from a certain Mr. O, which caused said Mr. O to go apeshit and chase him out of Venice.

3) After his retirement, he kept a certain member of the Muscle Media staff as a house guest for an extended period of time.    

Remember these were just rumors, some from ex-employees, do with them what you will.

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 12:55:21 PM »
you don't make a lot of money selling steroids.

exept if you pay them really fucking cheap and even then, you won't get "rich" selling steroids.



Depends on what you mean by rich.  There were plenty of guys sitting on $300-$400K in their houses when they got busted during operation raw deal.  I'm sure there are plenty of sources who've been around for a while making that kind of cash.  The steroid market has exploded in the last 20 years.  When you can import say an amp of Test E for a couple dollars or less and turn around and sell them for upwards of $14/amp which some people will pay and have paid that's some serious cash.  There was a chemist busted in OH that put out supposedly a good quailty UG line and he had $300K sitting around his house at the time of the bust.  Not rich but that's a shitload of cash to have lying around.  

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 12:57:01 PM »
Here are a few Bill Phillips rumors that went around over the years:

1) He used money from steroid sales and a family loan(his family is very well off) to finance his first news letter. From there he hooked up with Met-rx(also rumored to contain clenbuterol in early batches) which lead to the original Muscle Media 2000.

It was said that he used his steroid connections to various sports players to help gain their endorsement of MM2K and its products.

2) He once stole a large amount of steroids from a certain Mr. O, which caused said Mr. O to go apeshit and chase him out of Venice.

3) After his retirement, he kept a certain member of the Muscle Media staff as a house guest for an extended period of time.    

Remember these were just rumors, some from ex-employees, do with them what you will.

Ah ok......I never knew his family was well off.  Number one was what I was wondering about.  Gotta love the muscle rumors. 

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 01:07:36 PM »
Here's a rumor for you.  ::) Back in the  early 90's I believe, Phillips wrote a bi monthly rag mag. In one of the mags he had an article about this new anti catabolic drug the was better than steroids. Not only did it shed body fat, but it built muscle in a whole new way, it was called clenbuterol. At the same time coincidently the market was flooded with a counterfeit, but real version of clen under a label called Goldstar. A good bber friend of Philips (true) was pushing this stuff hard and retail was $100 per 100 tabs. Phillips was really touting this stuff as the latest and greatest new muscle building drug, but according to him he didn't know where to get it and if you asked him (I did) he would tell you that it was illegal and he had no idea where you could get it anyway.  ::) Rumor was that "someone" had purchased enough raw material to make close to 1 MILLION bottles. So this someone had someone else sell the stuff while the other someone marketed it, smart guy.  ;D

Not long after the Goldstar clen came on to the market a guy I knew was selling another brand under a label that escapes me for now. Anyway he called me up one day and read me a letter the he had got from Bill Phillips and it basically said that the clen that he was selling was illegal and if he didn't stop selling it he would report him to the proper authorities.  ::)

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 01:11:18 PM »
What does butt plug look like these days anyways? 

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 01:25:58 PM »
Sounds and looks like he's turned into a new age homo. 

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 01:45:05 PM »
Sounds and looks like he's turned into a new age homo. 


Probably because that is where all the money is and will be for decades if we all survive 2012...

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2008, 01:55:11 PM »
bill philips is a success and his brother got some great abs

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2008, 02:00:57 PM »
My friend won the EAS Body for life challenge in 2006!

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 02:02:35 PM »
My friend won the EAS Body for life challenge in 2006!

are you envious of him
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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2008, 02:04:10 PM »
Nope. I trained with him. He done great. Same guy that trains me trained him

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2008, 02:05:10 PM »
Lost all respect for the guy when I read an article he wrote in his magazine where he lifted an entire passage from the book "Shredded" as if it were his own thoughts, without giving credit.  ::)
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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2008, 02:05:40 PM »
Nope. I trained with him. He done great. Same guy that trains me trained him

did he get a car or soemthing or just supplements and a swatch watch
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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2008, 02:07:37 PM »
He won the mens category. Missed out on the overall. Some chick beat him, looked average IMO. Got 5k, watch, so much supps, jacket other things total of 10k so maybe 20,000 dollars. Met porter Freeman etc

Literally did change his life

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2008, 02:09:52 PM »
He won the mens category. Missed out on the overall. Some chick beat him, looked average IMO. Got 5k, watch, so much supps, jacket other things total of 10k so maybe 20,000 dollars. Met porter Freeman etc

Literally did change his life

was he one of those fat dudes that used to train put on fat and then got in back into shape?
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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2008, 02:13:22 PM »
No. He was real skinny but fatish and got bigger and leaner.

He was an old athlete. 3x Irish light-flyweight boxing champ. Ill post pics

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Re: Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2008, 02:19:15 PM »
I heard one of the ways Bill Phillips got the start up money for EAS was through selling fake/counterfeit steroids?  Is there any truth to that? 

Not only is it true, but he was a heavy megadoser for most of his early adult life.

EAS didn't build Bill Phillips..........Test Enanthate did.   ::)




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