Bill Phillips rumor is/was it true?

[Schmoe Patrol]

Bill was also a schmoe and would make the pros do schmoe tricks for roids

[Stavios]

This shouldn't be news to anyone, but anyway: take any "guru", trainer, anyone who is anything within the bodybuilding industry and there is usually drug dealing in the past. A bodybuilder owns a gym = started with drug money and/or is a front for money laundering. A bodybuilder owns a supplement store = same thing.

shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut 

[65stew]

What was the deal with his girlfriend Amy Cusack? Almost every month in his magazine they made it a point to let us know "Bill and his girlfriend Amy." The reason I ask is a few years ago on the TV show Survivor she was one of the contestants. They had a challenge where a family member or friend showed up and her friend turned out to also be her girlfriend/lover. Does anyone know if Bill and her were really a couple or was it for show? Or did Amy find out she was gay after they broke up?

[Wiggs]

What was the deal with his girlfriend Amy Cusack? Almost every month in his magazine they made it a point to let us know "Bill and his girlfriend Amy." The reason I ask is a few years ago on the TV show Survivor she was one of the contestants. They had a challenge where a family member or friend showed up and her friend turned out to also be her girlfriend/lover. Does anyone know if Bill and her were really a couple or was it for show? Or did Amy find out she was gay after they broke up?

Hi Bill   Doing a little stalking huh?

[The GodFather]

She got horny when she would suck his Gyno and went for someone a little larger in the breast department next step Female.Dude had some serious Gyno.Check old pics.

[tbombz]

She got horny when she would suck his Gyno

   

[dutchmanart]

you don't make a lot of money selling steroids.

exept if you pay them really fucking cheap and even then, you won't get "rich" selling steroids.

Bull shit bro.

If you're close to the origianl source then you can make tons of money.

A friend of mine let's call him "John" made over 150 thousand a year for over 4 years until he got a drug problem and got cut off from the source.

so you saying that there's no money in it is wrong.

Just enlightening the masses

[tbombz]

Bull shit bro.

If you're close to the origianl source then you can make tons of money.

A friend of mine let's call him "John" made over 150 thousand a year for over 4 years until he got a drug problem and got cut off from the source.

so you saying that there's no money in it is wrong.

Just enlightening the masses

even smal amounts opf raw powder will yeild like a 1 thousand percent profit easily..

[QuakerOats]

Bull shit bro.

If you're close to the origianl source then you can make tons of money.

A friend of mine let's call him "John" made over 150 thousand a year for over 4 years until he got a drug problem and got cut off from the source.

so you saying that there's no money in it is wrong.

Just enlightening the masses

where the hell did he live that he was making 150K a year from roids? doesn't seem like there's enough juicers in any given area, even cities, to make that much.

[Schmoe Patrol]

army bases are a very good place to sell roids, if you live near one just make friends with some of the base dudes

[dutchmanart]

Can't say his name I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate me doing that but lets just say he had an enormous client list.  

Didn't have a web site because that's how you get caught by getting too greedy.

But he did it the right way.  Send your money to Canada and the product was sent INSIDE the US. So nothing was EVER seized by Customs.

So he wasn't the neighborhood juice seller that sets up shop at the local gym.  He was natiowide "so to speak".  Even sold to IFBB big name bodybuilders.

He never sold anything that went "from his hand to yours".  Everything was done via mail and all communication was done via email.  

But he did live in a city that has a population of MILLIONS.

[QuakerOats]

Can't say his name I'm sure he wouldn't appreciate me doing that but lets just say he had an enormous client list.  

Didn't have a web site because that's how you get caught by getting too greedy.

But he did it the right way.  Send your money to Canada and the product was sent INSIDE the US. So nothing was EVER seized by Customs.

So he wasn't the neighborhood juice seller that sets up shop at the local gym.  He was natiowide "so to speak".  Even sold to IFBB big name bodybuilders.

He never sold anything that went "from his hand to yours".  Everything was done via mail and all communication was done via email.  

But he did live in a city that has a population of MILLIONS.

that makes more sense i guess.

[BB]

On the steroid distribution thing, It's definitely the country-wide selling that makes the big money.

I hope this works:

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=16182024 . 

It's an old article on Duchaine and his crew, and how much they made over their run. A couple of the more interesting things were bench press legend Mike Macdonald buying $265,000 of goods with them on a big order. And Jerry Jones buying $40,000 worth.

If anyone can find the last 4 pages of that article, I'd be grateful.

To the fellow asking about Amy Cusack, rumor was that Bill usually appreciated women more for their minds than their bodies, if you catch my drift.

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[arce377]

  He spiked his shit, and fucks men. He got very rich from both.

[TechnoViking]

Bill Philips before he met up with Dr Scott Connely, made a ton of money selling gear.He was "the connection" for all the pro bodybuilders and  pro athletes.The only reason he didnt go to jail is Sergio Olivera, now one of the owners from High-Tech Pharmaceuticals took the fall for him.That is why Sergio was the national sales manager for EAS.Bill Philips is a smart guy but is very very devious.Just ask Jeff, Everson owner of The Magazine Planet Muscle.Jeff, was supposed to be part owner of Met-RX, with Dr Connely, and Bill Philips, but But Bill Philips screwed him.Jeff, is a friend of mine, and what Bill did to him was just "wrong".
The funny thing about Bill Philips, is in the early 1990's he sold ALOT of gear,in Colorado, but then in the late 1990's he was preaching natural bodybuilding, even though he was always on grear.I have friends who lived in Colorado who knew Bill Philips back in the day, and used to buy gear off of him.True story,Back when Bill Phillips was 18-19 years old he took his first shot of test.Well he did it himself, and he did it in the locker room of a gym in Colorado.My friend walked into the bathroom of the gym and he found Bill Philips laying on the ground with a syringe in his ass.My friend said that Bill passed out when giving himself a shot.My friend who I will not name is no bull shitter.He actually sold roids for Bill and still has a Lamborghini Countache  he bought in the late 1980's with some of the money he made by selling roids for Bill.So dont tell me Bill didnt make any money, he was loaded
The Bottom line is Bill Philips is a great marketer, and did alot of the sports nutrition industry.But he is a cut throat business man who is ruthless when it comes to business.Just ask Jeff Everson.I repsect Bill and always will, but I wouldn't do business with him.

Probably passed out from GHB, not just by shooting himself...Well before GHB went mainstream in the 90's, many people in the the bodybuilding scene were using it...Anytime i hear about a bodybuilder passing out, GHB is probably the reason...

[Viking11]

Muscle Media was good for about a year, when they had Dan Duchaine, Mike Mentzer and Dr X- remember him? - all writing some really good stuff. Way better than even MD is now.  Body for life, and that crap he's done since are pretty useless. Basically gross overtraining- without steroids- umm ok Bill, whatever.

[Manninen dude]

Rumor was that "someone" had purchased enough raw material to make close to 1 MILLION bottles.

Realize that clen is sold in MICROgram quantities. Thus, a 25 kgs drum of clen powder would be enough for a HUGE amount of 20 or 40 mcg tablets. And clen powder is about as cheap as any bulk chemical. Thus, one would spend much more money on tablet fillers (eg microcrystalline cellulosa) and lubricants (eg magnesium stearate). Same applies pretty much to any oral ASS, eg dianabol. The cost of the active ingredient is NEGLIBLE. And if one dont want to mesh with tableting machines, he/she can purchase "ready-to-made" 40 mcg clen tabs (made by a cGMP pharmaceutical facility) for almost nothing from China. They can even print a pic of your cock on bottles if you wish 

[toolarge4u]

I bet John and Jim also remember how when the big writeup of MetRx came out in the Anabolic Reference Guide that "it is only being used for burn victims and severely sick people and it will never be made for public use"

Two issues later....."We have acquired a limited and I mean very limited supply that first come first serve bodybuilders can try out....but again supply it's severely limited and this is going to be a one time offering only to the public" 

(this created a fervor like no other)

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I am not touching that deca package story from mexico

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cyclofenil also got immensely popular around the same time that Goldstar Clen did...hmmmmm

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Its weird how he went about it...

Put out i think 27 issues of the Anabolic Reference Guide and the Anabolic Reference Book and grabbed all the hardcore bodybuilders in the country's ears.

Got Duchaine and put out MM2000 and kept hardcore still for 2-3 years and still had all the hardcore bodybuilders ears but a whole new crowd of people who wanted to in the clique (but really werent)

Took that movement and went to a very cleaned up mens health version of it (almost overnight)

Sale:

1999 - North Castle Partners buys EAS for $160 million, with Bill Phillips retaining about a third of the company. It begins adding mass-market products such as Pirhana energy drinks and AdvantEdge nutrition bars to the line. While Phillips limited the distribution of EAS products to gyms and health-food stores, new CEO David Lumley sells the line to discount retail chains and convenience stores and uses supermodel Cindy Crawford and Denver Bronco Shannon Sharpe in company ads. Sales climb to $251 million by 2001.


January 2003 - EAS stops selling products that contain ephedra, an herbal stimulant that some experts link to heart attacks and strokes, several months before the FDA bans the substance.


July 2003 - EAS ousts Lumley. Management says they fear he has steered too far away from EAS' traditional customer base of athletes and bodybuilders. He is replaced by chief operating officer Monty Sharma.


2004 - North Castle Partners buys Bill Phillips' portion of the company.

*****(im going to guess this was for 80-120 million as the worth of the company increased over time--so im going to speculate that he made 280 million total from its sale)

hahahaha i remember the met rx shit, jesus im not that old am i ?

[GetItOnNY]

Bill Philips has checked into the Betty Ford Clinic, I beleive it was 2-4 times if I am not mistaken.Like I said before my friend hung out with Bill, & his brother Shawn.Bill loved GHB, and the nose candy from What I hear.A friend of mine used to be a sales rep fro EAS, and bill would rent out the whole floor of hotels for weekends at a time, and every body would be on GHB.There was always lots of girls.I went to one of Bill Parties once it was insane.Everyb ody was having a really really good time, yet there wasnt any alcohol?
As far a there is no money in steroids, are you crazy.Right now in India you can buy a ampule of Sustanon 250 for about $2-$4, here in the states you will pay $12-$18 for the same ampule.That is a 400 % markup.
Now just imagine that times ten of thousands of ampules.There is big money in selling steroids.
My friend who sold roids for Bill Philips, bought a Lamborgini Countach, a Rolex Preidential, and tons of jewelry all with cash.Yes you have the small time dealers, like personal trainers that peddle stuff to there clients.They dont make much.But the guys who suppply them and a 1000 other personal trainers, and small time dealers is the guy who makes the money.Just like drug dealers.There are the small time drug dealers that peddles drugsmake a lil moneyy & to feed there habit.Then you got the "main" Supplier who supplies all the small timers, who makes 10's of millions.

[Ursus]

Dealer in my gym sold some middle aged guy some clenbuterol as he is pudgy.(trained for hours so many days a week. know it all)

Guy went white after 2 days and looked liek death.

Dealer took it back off and gave money back...lol first time a dealer has prob done that. Said he didnt want his death on his hands

[arce377]

AMY = BEARD

[johnnynoname]

bill phillips is not gay but he is the homo who ruined the greatest magazine in Bodybuilding

[HTexan]

Bill was also a schmoe and would make the pros do schmoe tricks for roids

like?

[WillGrant]

AMY = BEARD

Are you saying Amy was a tranny? 

[onlyme]

Hey the dealer back in the late 70's and early 80's in Venice did pretty good.  I am sure some of the older guys know who I am talking about.