Slacker Uprising vs. Willpower Bullshit

[wavelength]

Why is it that bodybuilding is always associated with willpower?
And how you must be so "hardcore" to perfom a high intensity workout few times a week.
Working out is a lot of fun, but it's about the least "hardcore" sport there is.
Much less taxing than any endurance sport.
The only reason why I stick to it is because it's so fun and easy to do.
Same goes for dieting, if you do it the slacker way.

Discuss.

[Schmoe Patrol]

you are correct, its something people do for fun, but most pros are slackers hence the reason they do G4P to support their training and competing instead of working a regular job or at least a part time one they prefer to puff the penis or bite the pillow

[Permabulker]

wavelength is a man with valid points!

[io856]

Its a fairly complex activity
-nutrition
-training
-drugs

Working out is one thing, bodybuilding is another.

By the way, your training shouldn't feel too easy. 

[tbombz]

Its a fairly complex activity
-nutrition
-training
-drugs

Working out is one thing, bodybuilding is another.

By the way, your training shouldn't feel too easy. 

on point

[Earl1972]

Why is it that bodybuilding is always associated with willpower?
And how you must be so "hardcore" to perfom a high intensity workout few times a week.
Working out is a lot of fun, but it's about the least "hardcore" sport there is.
Much less taxing than any endurance sport.
The only reason why I stick to it is because it's so fun and easy to do.
Same goes for dieting, if you do it the slacker way.

Discuss.

not true many people love to play baseball, football, and basketball

put these same people in the weight room and they are miserable

E

[wavelength]

By the way, your training shouldn't feel too easy. 

I'm about as intense in my training as I can be, it wouldn't be any fun otherwise.
It's still nothing compared to several hours a day of endurance training.

[wavelength]

not true many people love to play baseball, football, and basketball
put these same people in the weight room and they are miserable

Possible but that's a question of personal preference rather than being "hardcore".

[Earl1972]

Possible but that's a question of personal preference rather than being "hardcore".

5 sets of heavy squats are more hardcore than playing baseball

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[wavelength]

Its a fairly complex activity
-nutrition
-training
-drugs

Working out is one thing, bodybuilding is another.

By the way, your training shouldn't feel too easy. 

Of course we must differenciate between hobby and profession.

However, just because the profession of BB involves eating, taking drugs, and working out, doesn't make it any more "hardcore" than any other job.

[wavelength]

5 sets of heavy squats are more hardcore than playing baseball
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Depends on what you mean by "baseball". It's probably more taxing than hitting a few balls.
But if you compare BB to an endurance sport like e.g. swimming or running, there's no comparison IMO.

[Earl1972]

Depends on what you mean by "baseball". It's probably more taxing than hitting a few balls.
But if you compare BB to an endurance sport like e.g. swimming or running, there's no comparison IMO.

i have a friend that runs 6 miles every day, but says squats and deadlifts are too hard

E

[wavelength]

you are correct, its something people do for fun, but most pros are slackers hence the reason they do G4P to support their training and competing instead of working a regular job or at least a part time one they prefer to puff the penis or bite the pillow

Thankyou schmoe patrol for gracing this feeble thread with your presence and wisdom.

[wavelength]

i have a friend that runs 6 miles every day, but says squats and deadlifts are too hard

bullshit

[tbombz]

Of course we must differenciate between hobby and profession.

However, just because the profession of BB involves eating, taking drugs, and working out, doesn't make it any more "hardcore" than any other job.

define 'hardcore'.. ?

[MAXX]

if it was easy everyone would have a nice build

[wavelength]

define 'hardcore'.. ?

As in needs more willpower to do than any other job.
I need 100 times more willpower in my regular job than for my bodybuilding activities.

[technokc]

I think it has to do with human nature.  We all want to be able to have our own identity and culture, so by saying you are a "hardcore" bodybuilder you can identitfy your self with your fellow meatheads.  It is just like emo kids, goths, frat boys, etc.

By using the tag line hardcore it makes the insecure bodybuilder fee like he "belongs" to a group.  Lets face it, in all honesty, most people start lifting weights because of feeling of inadaquicy.  They want to get big to get the girl, or beat up the bully, or make the team, etc.  

Fortunately bodybuilding can boost your confidence and make you a better person, unlike, say being a gay crying emo kid.

[tbombz]

that video didnt work.. it was montell jordan how we do it.. lol..


i would say it takes more discipline, yes. not as much as some guys think... a skinny natural bb'er takes alot of dedication to stay in good shape.. but once you get some muscle it takes a lot less willpower to stay in sshape.. but training and eating enough and all that.. yeah.. takes willpower and dedication.

[wavelength]

I think it has to do with human nature.  We all want to be able to have our own identity and culture, so by saying you are a "hardcore" bodybuilder you can identitfy your self with your fellow meatheads.  It is just like emo kids, goths, frat boys, etc.

By using the tag line hardcore it makes the insecure bodybuilder fee like he "belongs" to a group.  Lets face it, in all honesty, most people start lifting weights because of feeling of inadaquicy.  They want to get big to get the girl, or beat up the bully, or make the team, etc.  

Fortunately bodybuilding can boost your confidence and make you a better person, unlike, say being a gay crying emo kid.

Very good post except for the bold part IMO.

[Earl1972]

Very good post except for the bold part IMO.

if you have more confidence you'll be a better person

E

[technokc]

Very good post except for the bold part IMO.

I guess what I was thinking with that is that you do see people who are missing out on their potential to do other things in life because they are so insecure.  Even if having muscles shouldn't make a person feel secure, no doubt feeling good about oneself can lead to accomplishments in other areas of life.

I know when I am more fit I feel more positve about the world in general, and when I am out of shape I don't seem to care as much, call it a self defeating prophecy if you will.

We all know the out of shape person who doesn't give a shit about anyone else because they don't love themself first, and getting in shape, right or wrong, can help this.

[tbombz]

I guess what I was thinking with that is that you do see people who are missing out on their potential to do other things in life because they are so insecure.  Even if having muscles shouldn't make a person feel secure, no doubt feeling good about oneself can lead to accomplishments in other areas of life.

I know when I am more fit I feel more positve about the world in general, and when I am out of shape I don't seem to care as much, call it a self defeating prophecy if you will.

We all know the out of shape person who doesn't give a shit about anyone else because they don't love themself first, and getting in shape, right or wrong, can help this.

4 real..

[wavelength]

if you have more confidence you'll be a better person
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I think the only thing that makes one a better person is loss of ego. If that's accomplished through bodybuilding is questionable.

[wavelength]

I guess what I was thinking with that is that you do see people who are missing out on their potential to do other things in life because they are so insecure.  Even if having muscles shouldn't make a person feel secure, no doubt feeling good about oneself can lead to accomplishments in other areas of life.

I know when I am more fit I feel more positve about the world in general, and when I am out of shape I don't seem to care as much, call it a self defeating prophecy if you will.

We all know the out of shape person who doesn't give a shit about anyone else because they don't love themself first, and getting in shape, right or wrong, can help this.

If bodybuilding helps you in getting less attached to a negative self image, I fully agree. However it can easily lead to attachment to a now positive self image.