Insider Kamali Story from Craig Richardson's Training Partner

[QuakerOats]

     Well, you want the truth, here it is.
     I believe the year was 2003 because we went into NYC to see Dexter the day before Craig was to compete in the Night of Champions.  It was his first time doing the show and Dex was going to check out his condition.  We met Dex, Dennis James and Stan McCrary at Dex's room where Dex checked out Craig and warned us that Victor Martinez was looking very dangerous.  I later ate a big plate of crow as I pronounced that Victor would only be allowed to carry Craig's trophy.  For those who don't know me, I like to talk more trash than Gary Payton but only with people who know I am joking and know that I too have thick skin.
     After leaving the room, a whole bunch of pros went to a diner down the block.  We all sat together and Dorian happened to be across from me to my left.  I engaged him in conversation as I had just finished reading Winston Churchill's "The Gathering Storm."  I told Dorian how much I enjoyed London and how much I admired Churchill.
     To my huge surprise, Dorian started denigrating Churchill and Prime Minister Tony Blair.  He then went on a tirade attacking President Bush and then America itself.  He said that America was a coward and a bully for invading Iraq.  He said that President Bush and the American society were stupid. 
     Craig immediately got nervous as he knew I wasn't going to sit back and not respond.  I asked Dorian if he had first, ever read any history, let alone Churchill's own words.  I reminded him that the same group of people he forever imprinted on his forearm were the ones who mercilessly bombed women and children living in London during WWll. 
     I then moved on and asked him if when he was paid by Weider the check was in dollars or pounds.  I brought up that virtually everyone who helped him was an American and most of his guest posings were due to American promotors or Americans with influence on overseas promoters.  I reminded him that although he really isn't a well-known person, the only people who kiss his ass are predominantly Americans.  I then also noted that all his success occured in America itself.
    At this time, Dex was laughing aloud and waiving his arms.  Dennis James was warning me not to start an argument with a guy so big.  Craig was pleading with me to stop and not let it escalate any further.
    Well, I let it.  I then asked Dorain if he thought the guy speaking to him now was an American coward.  Before he could answer, I said, "Why don't we go outside right now in front of all your friends and see if all Americans are cowards.  C'mon, I'm a small guy, show all your friends how tough you are and crush me right outside." 
    At this point, Dex tried to calm the situation.  Craig knew there was nothing he could do.  I apologized to Craig because I knew that Dorian still had some political clout and I didn't want Craig to suffer any damage.  I stood up, looked at Dorian, said to him, "well?" and then got up and walked out.
   It should be noted that I don't condone violence nor fighting without a legitimate reason.  My actions were immature.  I let my emotions get the better of me.  That is not how I was brought up.
   I am sure some of you will find a way to audit me and I welcome that as this was not intended to be some act of bravado, just a truthful recount of a sad situation with two people who should've acted better.
Harley
 

[jaejonna]

hahahah exactly my old friend....ppl pop up on these boards with stories of eating with dorian and discussing politics at the round table every month or so.... of course with no pictures....

[just_a_pilgrim]

     Well, you want the truth, here it is.
     I believe the year was 2003 because we went into NYC to see Dexter the day before Craig was to compete in the Night of Champions.  It was his first time doing the show and Dex was going to check out his condition.  We met Dex, Dennis James and Stan McCrary at Dex's room where Dex checked out Craig and warned us that Victor Martinez was looking very dangerous.  I later ate a big plate of crow as I pronounced that Victor would only be allowed to carry Craig's trophy.  For those who don't know me, I like to talk more trash than Gary Payton but only with people who know I am joking and know that I too have thick skin.
     After leaving the room, a whole bunch of pros went to a diner down the block.  We all sat together and Dorian happened to be across from me to my left.  I engaged him in conversation as I had just finished reading Winston Churchill's "The Gathering Storm."  I told Dorian how much I enjoyed London and how much I admired Churchill.
     To my huge surprise, Dorian started denigrating Churchill and Prime Minister Tony Blair.  He then went on a tirade attacking President Bush and then America itself.  He said that America was a coward and a bully for invading Iraq.  He said that President Bush and the American society were stupid. 
     Craig immediately got nervous as he knew I wasn't going to sit back and not respond.  I asked Dorian if he had first, ever read any history, let alone Churchill's own words.  I reminded him that the same group of people he forever imprinted on his forearm were the ones who mercilessly bombed women and children living in London during WWll. 
     I then moved on and asked him if when he was paid by Weider the check was in dollars or pounds.  I brought up that virtually everyone who helped him was an American and most of his guest posings were due to American promotors or Americans with influence on overseas promoters.  I reminded him that although he really isn't a well-known person, the only people who kiss his ass are predominantly Americans.  I then also noted that all his success occured in America itself.
    At this time, Dex was laughing aloud and waiving his arms.  Dennis James was warning me not to start an argument with a guy so big.  Craig was pleading with me to stop and not let it escalate any further.
    Well, I let it.  I then asked Dorain if he thought the guy speaking to him now was an American coward.  Before he could answer, I said, "Why don't we go outside right now in front of all your friends and see if all Americans are cowards.  C'mon, I'm a small guy, show all your friends how tough you are and crush me right outside." 
    At this point, Dex tried to calm the situation.  Craig knew there was nothing he could do.  I apologized to Craig because I knew that Dorian still had some political clout and I didn't want Craig to suffer any damage.  I stood up, looked at Dorian, said to him, "well?" and then got up and walked out.
   It should be noted that I don't condone violence nor fighting without a legitimate reason.  My actions were immature.  I let my emotions get the better of me.  That is not how I was brought up.
   I am sure some of you will find a way to audit me and I welcome that as this was not intended to be some act of bravado, just a truthful recount of a sad situation with two people who should've acted better.
Harley
 

You're not an American Coward your a fucking nutcase! WTF?

What Dorian believes is what a lot of the world outside of your propaganda filled media run country believes.

Actually going on yesterday's election results i would say maybe more of your own country believes it too.

Just because America gave Dorian success, and America is a place where someone can go from nothing to something, doesn't mean he has to agree on everything it does. LOL

[QuakerOats]

You're not an American Coward your a fucking nutcase! WTF?

What Dorian believes is what a lot of the world outside of your propaganda filled media run country believes.

Actually going on yesterday's election results i would say maybe more of your own country believes it too.

Just because America gave Dorian success, and America is a place where someone can go from nothing to something, doesn't mean he has to agree on everything it does. LOL

this guy was allright with me until he came up with the psuedo tough guy act.

[Benny B]

this guy was allright with me until he came up with the psuedo tough guy act.

Oh no, you mean he's doesn't have the approval of Trailer Park Dave anymore??? 

[MAXX]

Hey Guys,
     I am here to clear something up.  It was posted here or printed in a magazine that backstage, after the announcements of the 2008 Atlantic City placements, Craig Richardson went up to King Kamali in disbelief and told him that he can't believe Kamali was not in the top 5.  The story even has Craig using the "f" word.  I am here to tell you that never happened. It just didn't. 
    Let the record be clear, that neither Craig nor I have ever had a bad encounter with King Kamali.
Harley

Your boy Craig Richardsons biceps are syntholized to the max

[Canadian_Muscle]

You didn't finish the story there Harley. What did Dorian do once you challenged him and went outside?

[HarleyBreite]

I am no tough guy and if I had to act like one, I wouldn't hide behind a computer.  
I am certainly tolerant of others' opinions but there was no need for Dorian to make fun of our soldiers and call them cowards.  Yes, he did that too.  I lost my kool, which I said was wrong, but that is far different from putting on a "psuedo tough guy act."  
I actually thought you guys would find the story amusing just as when you posted a story of Yates getting a black eye.  As far as a photo?  I don't know anyone who is about to engage in a street fight who stops and requests a photo.  If credibility is at issue, ask people who know of me, Dex, Dennis James, Stan McCrary or even Dorian.  Again, it may sound like a proud moment to guys who are perhaps insecure, but for me, I was upset with myself for allowing it to escalate.
To answer the last post, Dorian did nothing when I said "well?"  He refused to get up and Dex was quick to make sure I left with Craig.     

[just_a_pilgrim]

this guy was allright with me until he came up with the psuedo tough guy act.

Same.

Dorian didn't even act aggressive to you all he did was give his opinion.

So someone else has a different opinion to you? Shit ay..................

[QuakerOats]

Same.

Dorian didn't even act aggressive to you all he did was give his opinion.

So someone else has a different opinion to you? Shit ay..................

i'm sensing that Harley was somewhat jealous of Dorian's success and the fact that he was THE BEST IN THE WORLD at his chosen profession for 6 years running, not many people can claim that.

[Boost]

I suppose Dorian was just saying what he truely believed,
However being British myself,  I would never start that kinda rant IN America, surrounded by americans,
A little rude tbh.

I think Harley is telling the truth, a patriot, not a lunatic.

[Canadian_Muscle]

i'm sensing that Harley was somewhat jealous of Dorian's success and the fact that he was THE BEST IN THE WORLD at his chosen profession for 6 years running, not many people can claim that.

I challenged Dorian to a fight one time at Denny's. The fucker was talking some shit about how rear delts should be trained on back day. You can ask anyone that knows me, I won't tolerate that bullshit.

 

[QuakerOats]

I challenged Dorian to a fight one time at Denny's. The fucker was talking some shit about how rear delts should be trained on back day. You can ask anyone that knows me, I won't tolerate that bullshit.

 

[MAXX]

     Well, you want the truth, here it is.
     I believe the year was 2003 because we went into NYC to see Dexter the day before Craig was to compete in the Night of Champions.  It was his first time doing the show and Dex was going to check out his condition.  We met Dex, Dennis James and Stan McCrary at Dex's room where Dex checked out Craig and warned us that Victor Martinez was looking very dangerous.  I later ate a big plate of crow as I pronounced that Victor would only be allowed to carry Craig's trophy.  For those who don't know me, I like to talk more trash than Gary Payton but only with people who know I am joking and know that I too have thick skin.
     After leaving the room, a whole bunch of pros went to a diner down the block.  We all sat together and Dorian happened to be across from me to my left.  I engaged him in conversation as I had just finished reading Winston Churchill's "The Gathering Storm."  I told Dorian how much I enjoyed London and how much I admired Churchill.
     To my huge surprise, Dorian started denigrating Churchill and Prime Minister Tony Blair.  He then went on a tirade attacking President Bush and then America itself.  He said that America was a coward and a bully for invading Iraq.  He said that President Bush and the American society were stupid. 
     Craig immediately got nervous as he knew I wasn't going to sit back and not respond.  I asked Dorian if he had first, ever read any history, let alone Churchill's own words.  I reminded him that the same group of people he forever imprinted on his forearm were the ones who mercilessly bombed women and children living in London during WWll. 
     I then moved on and asked him if when he was paid by Weider the check was in dollars or pounds.  I brought up that virtually everyone who helped him was an American and most of his guest posings were due to American promotors or Americans with influence on overseas promoters.  I reminded him that although he really isn't a well-known person, the only people who kiss his ass are predominantly Americans.  I then also noted that all his success occured in America itself.
    At this time, Dex was laughing aloud and waiving his arms.  Dennis James was warning me not to start an argument with a guy so big.  Craig was pleading with me to stop and not let it escalate any further.
    Well, I let it.  I then asked Dorain if he thought the guy speaking to him now was an American coward.  Before he could answer, I said, "Why don't we go outside right now in front of all your friends and see if all Americans are cowards.  C'mon, I'm a small guy, show all your friends how tough you are and crush me right outside." 
    At this point, Dex tried to calm the situation.  Craig knew there was nothing he could do.  I apologized to Craig because I knew that Dorian still had some political clout and I didn't want Craig to suffer any damage.  I stood up, looked at Dorian, said to him, "well?" and then got up and walked out.
   It should be noted that I don't condone violence nor fighting without a legitimate reason.  My actions were immature.  I let my emotions get the better of me.  That is not how I was brought up.
   I am sure some of you will find a way to audit me and I welcome that as this was not intended to be some act of bravado, just a truthful recount of a sad situation with two people who should've acted better.
Harley
 

You engage in a conversation with Dorian, then when you dont like what he says you threat him with violence?

Nutcase.

Dorian is 100% right by the way.

[Canadian_Muscle]

You engage in a conversation with Dorian, then when you dont like what he says you threat him with violence?

Nutcase.

Dorian is 100% right by the way.

x2

[HarleyBreite]

     It may be helpful to remember that this happened, in NYC, less than 2 years after the 9/11 attacks when Americans were much less desensitized to the horror of terrorism here in NYC itself.  
     Had Dorian's tone been one to welcome an intellectual discourse, that would've been much different.  My respect for anyone such as Dorian who achieves such a high level of success in any chosen endeavor doesn't create any jealousy.  I happen to be an extremely tolerant person as evidenced by most of my friends having a different nationality, religion, and socio-economic status than myself as well as my interest in studying different cultures and languages.  
   The whole thing was not merely a matter of what Dorian said, but how he did it in such a loud and public manner while in a forum that did not solicit that type of response.  

[Boost]

I challenged Dorian to a fight one time at Denny's. The fucker was talking some shit about how rear delts should be trained on back day. You can ask anyone that knows me, I won't tolerate that bullshit.

 

LOL

"I had to spear tackle Dorian in the middle of Temple gym for leaving a pair of dumbells laying around,
I'll fight man or beast when it comes to disrespecting gym rules"

[21Guns]

God damit rear delts should be trained on back day

[michael arvilla]

          im sorry.................wh o is this guy?

[Boost]

Craig Richardson's Training partner

[MAXX]

Craig Richardson's Training partner

how and where can i buy his autograph?

[michael arvilla]

Craig Richardson's Training partner

is this the guy!?!?!?

[Canadian_Muscle]

LOL

"I had to spear tackle Dorian in the middle of Temple gym for leaving a pair of dumbells laying around,
I'll fight man or beast when it comes to disrespecting gym rules"

Exactly. 

Yeah Mike, this is Craig's training partner.

[The GodFather]

KK had a good physique once but the word he needs to read is HAD.Why not just look at how you look now and then look at how you looked way back when your body was still responding to all those Drugs.Clown

[bodybuilder1234]

I challenged Dorian to a fight one time at Denny's. The fucker was talking some shit about how rear delts should be trained on back day. You can ask anyone that knows me, I won't tolerate that bullshit.

 

I also had a confrontation with Dorian when he was in a grocery store in Birmingham. The bastard had the nerve to tell me what foods to eat after a heavy weightlifting workout.
I snapped my fingers in his face because i was fuming, nobody tells me what to fucking eat, ever.

If you dont believe me you can ask the workers at the grocery store. Dorian was scared shitless.