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[webcake]

So you've only been training 9 months (lie), and u look like shit (true), and you think you know what works for you?

Agreed.

9 months is shit-all training experience. Your still somewhat of a beginner after 9 months...

[TacoBell]

I hate to say it but this is the only student that  graduated Summa Mora Cumm ina Moutha from the concentration training camp of Apenis.  Apenis training AssHoletic is a whole nother "blind leading the blind" saying.  And I think all trainers are ACE ASS certified too.  I swear there are no two guys who talk more shit on here that do nothing.  AssHoletic guaranteed he would win and blow away all the Mr getbig3 competitors.  Apenis just talks and talks and talk but never comes up with anything.  These two should get married

I find it funny how Adonis uses low level lighting in every one of his photos. 

[onlyme]

LOL, no Jim, while I have eaten my share of fast food, and the Adonis principles are solid and backed up by science (diet that makes sense)
I think I'm going to follow the "AXA principles" for this one, cuz I know what works for my body and what doesn't by this point in time
if I honestly eat like that, I know that I will BINGE..... ALOT, so it will work against me as time goes by since my will power is not
that strong.....yes... to follow a less restrictive diet
when I do something, I have to do it 100%, complete focus, it's the only way I can do it and stick to my diet, the Adonis principles DO work however

Take the first fuckin step moron.  Join a gym and start training.  You are a pole with long dirty hair.  Get some fuckin muscle on you. 

I find it funny how Adonis uses low level lighting in every one of his photos. 

It's easier to photoshop

[The True Adonis]

Oh god please please please elaborate!!!

Don`t hold your breath. Fat boy will have you blue in the face before he ever generates a ficticious response.

Alex23 is pathetic.  

[Disgusted]

Simple. I can`t find a journal nor have any clue who or what you are talking about.
Since you made the assertion, can you please help? Proving a negative is pointless.  Prove to me there isn`t a floating tea cup circling the earth.  Get it? Got it? Good.

Exactly, I seem to recall you asking me more than once to "prove" my theories. Now, as far as the kid who stopped using your so called principles I honestly can't recall as I think he no longer posts here. I'm sure someone here will remember. Like I said "he" was keeping a journal not you.

[The True Adonis]

pardon me to interrupt but are we talking about Matt C?  cuz I read that whole thread and it seemed to be water loss he was complaining about not muscle loss

I never helped Matt C.

[The True Adonis]

Exactly, I seem to recall you asking me more than once to "prove" my theories. Now, as far as the kid who stopped using your so called principles I honestly can't recall as I think he no longer posts here. I'm sure someone here will remember. Like I said "he" was keeping a journal not you.

I was asking for you to prove a positive. You are asking me to prove a negative.  Do you understand the difference?

[Disgusted]

pardon me to interrupt but are we talking about Matt C?  cuz I read that whole thread and it seemed to be water loss he was complaining about not muscle loss

No, this kid was actually a pretty good kid and even when Adam's diet didn't work for him he still talked nice about Adam. He basically said that the diet was not for him after trying it for a while and having it stop working. Apparently Adam didn't know what else to do for him to keep the progress going.

[Relentless]

Don`t hold your breath. Fat boy will have you blue in the face before he ever generates a ficticious response.

Alex23 is pathetic.  

Alex23 is a fun-loving sonofabitch who isn't afraid to throw down a beer or two at the firehouse with his getbig friends.  Yours truly is sitting across from CSwol.  My lady is sandwiched in between me and tommywishbone.  

[ASJChaotic]

AC, there is nothing scientific about recommending to someone that they eat McDonald's. There was a post some time ago that Adam said he ate ice cream for dinner. He said and I quote "what's wrong with ice cream for dinner?" I asked him what was right with it and he ignored me.

weight loss is not rocket science (most of the time)
consume less calories than you need and you'll lose weight
that's what the Adonis principles are
it's common sense and it does work, I gotta admit I have done that too 
I was never good with eating a good diet, I just ate what I wanted 
I really don't see things wrong with it, eat the foods you like, just eat less of them, granted it's not the general bodybuilding diet that we're used to
but it's something people can stick to and it does work

but when I get down to about 10% bodyfat, my body just can't STICK to those methods, I cheat alot
this is why I need to restrict myself, cuz I will 100% binge if I don't

[TacoBell]

Agreed.

9 months is shit-all training experience. Your still somewhat of a beginner after 9 months...

I think it takes some time consistently training before you can admit to yourself you have no clue what you're doing.

What I dont get, is how after 9 months of training, a person can have such an in depth knowledge of bodybuilding personalities and history.
Maybe AXA saw a Flex and popped a woodie??

[ASJChaotic]

I think it takes some time consistently training before you can admit to yourself you have no clue what you're doing.

What I dont get, is how after 9 months of training, a person can have such an in depth knowledge of bodybuilding personalities and history.
Maybe AXA saw a Flex and popped a woodie??

there are guys that know me on here
"Captain Insano" and he makes jokes about how I have only been training for 2 months
once I got into bodybuilding, I went BACK and studied it's history
what is wrong with that?

[The True Adonis]

No, this kid was actually a pretty good kid and even when Adam's diet didn't work for him he still talked nice about Adam. He basically said that the diet was not for him after trying it for a while and having it stop working. Apparently Adam didn't know what else to do for him to keep the progress going.

Lets get this straight.  I have never actively helped anyone from start to finish.  It is an impossibility for any diet to stop working so your assertion makes zero sense. Diets of any kind don`t all of a sudden stop working.

I thought you were a bit smarter than that.

[TacoBell]

there are guys that know me on here
"Captain Insano" and he makes jokes about how I have only been training for 2 months
once I got into bodybuilding, I went BACK and studied it's history
what is wrong with that?

Arguing about who should have won the 93 Olympia, is not something you stumble onto in 2 months.

[no one]

Simple. I can`t find a journal nor have any clue who or what you are talking about.
Since you made the assertion, can you please help? Proving a negative is pointless.  Prove to me there isn`t a floating tea cup circling the earth.  Get it? Got it? Good.

i can help you, stupid.

you are 6 foot and 160 pounds.

yeah, your diet is a HUGE muscle builder. 

when you manage to diet yourself or anyone down who doesn't look like an ethopian long distance marathoner afterwards, then you can talk.

until then, your still 6 foot and a buck 60 and not exactly someone you'd seek out for advise.

get it? got it? good.

[dustin]

Agreed.

9 months is shit-all training experience. Your still somewhat of a beginner after 9 months...

I wouldn't be surprised if every 9 months he had a grand epiphany. I know I do. I always think I have things down fairly well, then I make one small tweak in my diet and BOOM!! Muscle, fat loss, whatever... you only know so much about your body. Learning how it responds is a continual process. I'm sure damn near everyone here goes through the same thing. 9 months is nothing at all. But at least it was spent with cognizance... lots of idiots just pick up weights and it takes years before a muscle pops out.

I'd take Jim's advice over anyone else's in this thread though. At this point, I'm eating a good diet, being intuitive and changing my macros for the level of activity I've performed throughout the day (as well incorporating previous training), but also enjoying things too. I'm not too stringent anymore. As long as my macros are loosely in alignment with the abovementioned, I can eat relatively happy without slowing my progress. It's all a matter of balance. I don't compete of course so if things were different, I'd be eating super strict like I used to.

Jim's insight is crazy though. I'm not one to swing off people's nut sacks, but if I had to pick one scrotum to ride as far as dietary advice is concerned, it'd be his!! lol.. err... talking about his dietary advice... I think? It's good shit!! I wish he'd help me with my contest prep if I change my mind some day!!

[ASJChaotic]

Arguing about who should have won the 93 Olympia, is not something you stumble onto in 2 months.

for god's sake
I'm sorry I was 4 years old at the 93 Mr. Olympia was going on and didn't discuss it back then 

[Relentless]

i can help you, stupid.

you are 6 foot and 160 pounds.

yeah, your diet is a HUGE muscle builder. 

when you manage to diet yourself or anyone down who doesn't look like an ethopian long distance marathoner afterwards, then you can talk.

until then, your still 6 foot and a buck 60 and not exactly someone you'd seek out for advise.

get it? got it? good.

TA, what kind of results do you think a pro bodybuilder would get (ie Dexter Jackson) if he followed your diet principles?

[Disgusted]

weight loss is not rocket science (most of the time)
consume less calories than you need and you'll lose weight

Not to put you down bro but you are very wrong. People can vary different metabolically. For example, even though it is very rare I have delt with two people who had thyroid issues. As most people may or may not realize is it's not just a matter of consuming less calories over a period of time. If it were that easy no one would fail on a diet. I have had literally dozens of people come to me who's progress has come to a halt after weeks of dieting no matter how low they go on their calories.

[ASJChaotic]

I wouldn't be surprised if every 9 months he had a grand epiphany. I know I do. I always think I have things down fairly well, then I make one small tweak in my diet and BOOM!! Muscle, fat loss, whatever... you only know so much about your body. Learning how it responds is a continual process. I'm sure damn near everyone here goes through the same thing. 9 months is nothing at all. But at least it was spent with cognizance... lots of idiots just pick up weights and it takes years before a muscle pops out.

I'd take Jim's advice over anyone else's in this thread though. At this point, I'm eating a good diet, being intuitive and changing my macros for the level of activity I've performed throughout the day (as well incorporating previous training), but also enjoying things too. I'm not too stringent anymore. As long as my macros are loosely in alignment with the abovementioned, I can eat relatively happy without slowing my progress. It's all a matter of balance. I don't compete of course so if things were different, I'd be eating super strict like I used to.

Jim's insight is crazy though. I'm not one to swing off people's nut sacks, but if I had to pick one scrotum to ride as far as dietary advice is concerned, it'd be his!! lol.. err... talking about his dietary advice... I think? It's good shit!! I wish he'd help me with my contest prep if I change my mind some day!!

yes, Jim gives very good advice, and I'd wish he'd help me with contest prep too someday 

[no one]

Lets get this straight.  I have never actively helped anyone from start to finish.  It is an impossibility for any diet to stop working so your assertion makes zero sense. Diets of any kind don`t all of a sudden stop working.

I thought you were a bit smarter than that.

irony.

jim, you catch this? of course you did.

[Disgusted]

Lets get this straight.  I have never actively helped anyone from start to finish.  It is an impossibility for any diet to stop working so your assertion makes zero sense. Diets of any kind don`t all of a sudden stop working.

I thought you were a bit smarter than that.

First of all you are right, about not helping someone from start to finish simply because their progress came to a halt. I guess you answered my second comment with part two of your answer.     Man you are really ignorant in the true definition of the word when it comes to food and metabolism.

[TacoBell]

for god's sake
I'm sorry I was 4 years old at the 93 Mr. Olympia was going on and didn't discuss it back then 

Exactly, so how in 2 months did you become so emotionally invested?
You sure do know an awful lot about it.
Most people work out for years before actually getting into bodybuilding as a sport, if at all....
 

[The True Adonis]

TA, what kind of results do you think a pro bodybuilder would get (ie Dexter Jackson) if he followed your diet principles?

The same as he has been getting.  Look, all diets work. Some are just easier than others. Mine happens to be the most simple and enjoyable therefore better.

Think of it this way, Dexter diets right now on 2500 calories as that is what his video stated.

What I would have him do is, eat about 1 gram per lb of bodyweight protein eating whatever he wants to fullfill that and 2500 calories.

Thats it.  Simple as that.  He would look the exact same as he does but this would make the process easier, enjoyable and keep him from any kind of craving or binge eating.

[Disgusted]

yes, Jim gives very good advice, and I'd wish he'd help me with contest prep too someday 

Go to the positive board bro and you  can see some pics of people who I have trained.