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« Reply #300 on: November 19, 2008, 09:41:22 AM »
And Kane on his lifts:

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At 175-177lbs I could benchpress 315lbs, squat (parallel) 355lbs and sumo deadlift 415 for an easy single. Though doing the sumo was what messed up my back...so take that with a grain of salt.

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« Reply #301 on: November 19, 2008, 09:42:06 AM »
no one is disagreeing, but there is a health and mental aspects to eating nothi9ng but junk while dieting that have led to millions worldwide getting fat, yet adonis says they are fat because they are stupid  ???
tell me again why you hold him in such high esteem ?

Millions got fat on "junk food" because they eat too much of it. Of course you schouldn't eat "junk" only, there's two principles that inhibit that.

My approach to obese people would be the following: Let them write down everything they think they eat during the day and put them on that diet for the first year. Won't do more harm than it has done already. Alone from leaving out or forgetting a large part of what they really have eaten, they will lose weight. If they don't, just reduce the portions a little. I am pretty sure that people will be healthier after that year than they have been before, from the fat loss alone. Plus the fact that this is an achievable approach rather than throwing out everything they like to eat and putting them on a fish and rice diet, they can't stick to anyway.

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« Reply #302 on: November 19, 2008, 09:42:14 AM »
to counter adonis's pics of a steroid user who eats junk food.

heres someone who follows a clean diet




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« Reply #303 on: November 19, 2008, 09:43:26 AM »
I would have loved to do it as well, but 2 things happened.

1. There was an original date set and I was able to make that deadline. When the deadline was changed, I was not able to do the new deadline due to the time-frame constraints as I was not able to take any pictures during the suggested week.

2. In hindsight you let a steroid user win when the rules did not allow for it or were ambiguous, so I am glad I was not able to make the deadline. 

This brings to mind the old adage "Excuses are like assholes, everyone's got one"  Instead of wasting bandwidth and time cutting and pasting all your gibberish why don't you go to the gym get some size on your bones, follow your diet and show people what you can do instead of just talking about it.  Sorry son but not many people will take a 6' tall 160 lb kid seriously.  All you do is talk.  You have nothing to back it up (except when you say science).  Can you imagine how embarrassed you would be in front of Jeez and your one friend AssHoletic if they saw you debating someone in person who knows what they are talking about. 

You know what, find ONE guy who has some credibility and credentials to back up what you preach.  Just that may get you some respect (not much but some).  Right now you guys like AssHoletic and Falcon and others backing you up.  You have no one real behind you.  Hope this helps, cause I like your stick-to-it-tiveness but you are fighting a battle you can't win right now.

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« Reply #304 on: November 19, 2008, 09:44:04 AM »
Millions got fat on "junk food" because they eat too much of it. Of course you schouldn't eat "junk" only, there's two principles that inhibit that.

My approach to obese people would be the following: Let them write down everything they think they eat during the day and put them on that diet for the first year. Won't do more harm than it has done already. Alone from leaving out or forgetting a large part of what they really have eaten, they will lose weight. If they don't, just reduce the portions a little. I am pretty sure that people will be healthier after that year than they have been before, from the fat loss alone. Plus the fact that this is an achievable approach rather than throwing out everything they like to eat and putting them on a fish and rice diet, they can't stick to anyway.
the longer they are exposed to bad fats, and high sugars the more likely they wil get geart problems or perhaps diabetes.

lower amounts or not.
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« Reply #305 on: November 19, 2008, 09:46:15 AM »
the longer they are exposed to bad fats, and high sugars the more likely they wil get geart problems or perhaps diabetes.

lower amounts or not.
With calorie control by default you do not have to worry bout this happening as the threshold for problems to develop are simply not possible when consuming limited calories.

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« Reply #306 on: November 19, 2008, 09:47:24 AM »
With calorie control by default you do not have to worry bout this happening as the threshold for problems to develop are simply not possible when consuming limited calories.
bullshit.

prove it, where are the studies?
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« Reply #307 on: November 19, 2008, 09:47:56 AM »
to counter adonis's pics of a steroid user who eats junk food.

heres someone who follows a clean diet




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Timberwolf has NEVER used steroids. Sorry.

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« Reply #308 on: November 19, 2008, 09:48:07 AM »
the longer they are exposed to bad fats, and high sugars the more likely they wil get geart problems or perhaps diabetes.

lower amounts or not.

As soon as they learn that losing weight doesn not mean eating only things they hate, they will automatically try other foods. Don't you agree that any diet that helps them lose weight is much better than a diet they can never stick to for the rest of their lifes anyway?

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« Reply #309 on: November 19, 2008, 09:51:46 AM »
Timberwolf has NEVER used steroids. Sorry.

of course he hasn't

neither has aquilles, dex and ronnie  ::)
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« Reply #310 on: November 19, 2008, 09:52:39 AM »
bullshit.

prove it, where are the studies?


Are you serious?  This is basic common knowledge.
Calorie restriction reduces risk of heart attack, stroke and diabetes

By Gila Z. Reckess

People who severely restrict their caloric intake drastically reduce their risk of developing diabetes or clogged arteries, the precursor to a heart attack or stroke.

According to University researchers, some risk factors were so low they were comparable to those of people decades younger.

The study, led by John O. Holloszy, M.D., professor of medicine, will appear in the April 27 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The first author is Luigi Fontana, M.D., Ph.D., research instructor in medicine.

"It's very clear from these findings that calorie restriction has a powerful, protective effect against diseases associated with aging," Holloszy said. "We don't know how long each individual actually will end up living, but they certainly have a much longer life expectancy than average because they're most likely not going to die from a heart attack, stroke or diabetes."

Research on mice and rats has shown that stringent and consistent calorie restriction increases the animals' maximum lifespan by about 30 percent and protects them against cancer.

This study is the first to examine individuals who have been on calorie restriction diets for a long period of time.

The researchers recruited participants through a national organization called the Caloric Restriction Optimal Nutrition Society.

By eating small amounts of nutrient-dense foods, members of this group try to consume between 10 percent and 25 percent fewer calories than the average American while still attempting to maintain proper nutrition.

The 18 individuals who participated in the study had voluntarily been following this very low-calorie diet for three to 15 years. This group was compared with 18 age- and gender-matched individuals who ate a typical Western diet.

Holloszy's team found the two groups not only differed in the number of calories consumed, but also in the composition of their diets.

Individuals in the calorie-restriction group ate about 1,100-1,950 calories per day depending on height, weight and gender, and these calories consisted of about 26 percent protein, 28 percent fat and 46 percent complex carbohydrates.

In contrast, the comparison group consumed between about 1,975 and 3,550 calories per day, with only 18 percent of their calories from protein, 32 percent from fat and 50 percent from carbohydrates, including refined, processed starches.

Atherosclerosis — clogged arteries that can lead to a heart attack or stroke — already is the leading cause of death in the Western world, and the problem is continuing to grow.

So Holloszy's team specifically focused on the risk factors for this condition. The researchers measured multiple indications of early or impending atherosclerosis, including blood pressure and levels of several biological markers in the blood, including cholesterol and triglycerides.

They also measured the levels of glucose and insulin in the blood to gauge diabetes risk, another major health concern for Americans.

People in the calorie restriction group had total and low-density lipoprotein — known as LDL or "bad" cholesterol — levels comparable to the lowest 10 percent of the population in their respective age groups.

Their high-density lipoprotein — known as HDL or "good" cholesterol — levels were in the 85th percentile to 90th percentile for middle-aged men.

That finding was a surprise because HDL levels typically decrease when individuals follow low-fat diets to lose weight.

Triglyceride levels — which, when elevated, can lead to atherosclerosis — were even more impressive in the calorie restriction group: They were lower than more than 95 percent of Americans in their 20s, despite the fact that the study participants' ages ranged from 35-82.

In contrast, cholesterol and triglyceride levels in the comparison group were in the 50th percentile for average middle-aged Americans. Moreover, 12 of the individuals in the calorie restriction group provided medical records from before and during the diet.

Their cholesterol and triglyceride scores also were close to the 50th percentile for middle-aged Americans before the diet, and levels fell the most dramatically during their first year of calorie restriction.

Blood pressure scores in the restricted group also were equivalent to those of much younger individuals. The average blood pressure in the normal diet group was about 130/80, which is standard for a typical American.

In comparison, the calorie restriction group's average was about 100/60, akin to the blood pressure of an average 10-year-old.

Fasting glucose and insulin — both markers of the risk of developing diabetes — also were significantly lower in the calorie restriction group, with insulin concentrations as much as 65 percent lower.

All other risk factors measured also were significantly better in the calorie-restriction group.

They included body mass index, body fat mass, C-reactive protein and the thickness of the carotid artery, the main blood vessel that runs from the heart to the brain.

"These effects are all pretty dramatic," Fontana said. "For the first time, we've shown that calorie restriction is feasible and has a tremendous effect on the risk for atherosclerosis and diabetes."

The team is conducting a controlled, prospective study comparing calorie restriction to the average American diet.

The researchers ultimately hope to follow these individuals for a longer period of time to assess the long-term effects of calorie restriction on biological markers of aging.

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« Reply #311 on: November 19, 2008, 09:55:12 AM »
As soon as they learn that losing weight doesn not mean eating only things they hate, they will automatically try other foods. Don't you agree that any diet that helps them lose weight is much better than a diet they can never stick to for the rest of their lifes anyway?

yes, but not at the expense of their health.

from burgers i would try steak, from deep fried chicken in batter, i would try lemon pepper chicken fillets.

deep fried fries to over baked fries

all healthier options - and just as tasty. - less calories too.

however on your diet, telling a fat guy/girl he can eat his ice cream but stop at half a tub, is like telling a crack addict to only smoke half the pipe ::) its not going to happen.
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« Reply #312 on: November 19, 2008, 09:58:26 AM »
Are you serious?  This is basic common knowledge.
Calorie restriction reduces risk of heart attack, stroke and diabetes

By Gila Z. Reckess

People who severely restrict their caloric intake drastically reduce their risk of developing diabetes or clogged arteries, the precursor to a heart attack or stroke.

According to University researchers, some risk factors were so low they were comparable to those of people decades younger.

The study, led by John O. Holloszy, M.D., professor of medicine, will appear in the April 27 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The first author is Luigi Fontana, M.D., Ph.D., research instructor in medicine.

"It's very clear from these findings that calorie restriction has a powerful, protective effect against diseases associated with aging," Holloszy said. "We don't know how long each individual actually will end up living, but they certainly have a much longer life expectancy than average because they're most likely not going to die from a heart attack, stroke or diabetes."

Research on mice and rats has shown that stringent and consistent calorie restriction increases the animals' maximum lifespan by about 30 percent and protects them against cancer.

This study is the first to examine individuals who have been on calorie restriction diets for a long period of time.

The researchers recruited participants through a national organization called the Caloric Restriction Optimal Nutrition Society.

By eating small amounts of nutrient-dense foods, members of this group try to consume between 10 percent and 25 percent fewer calories than the average American while still attempting to maintain proper nutrition.

The 18 individuals who participated in the study had voluntarily been following this very low-calorie diet for three to 15 years. This group was compared with 18 age- and gender-matched individuals who ate a typical Western diet.

Holloszy's team found the two groups not only differed in the number of calories consumed, but also in the composition of their diets.

Individuals in the calorie-restriction group ate about 1,100-1,950 calories per day depending on height, weight and gender, and these calories consisted of about 26 percent protein, 28 percent fat and 46 percent complex carbohydrates.

In contrast, the comparison group consumed between about 1,975 and 3,550 calories per day, with only 18 percent of their calories from protein, 32 percent from fat and 50 percent from carbohydrates, including refined, processed starches.

Atherosclerosis — clogged arteries that can lead to a heart attack or stroke — already is the leading cause of death in the Western world, and the problem is continuing to grow.

So Holloszy's team specifically focused on the risk factors for this condition. The researchers measured multiple indications of early or impending atherosclerosis, including blood pressure and levels of several biological markers in the blood, including cholesterol and triglycerides.

They also measured the levels of glucose and insulin in the blood to gauge diabetes risk, another major health concern for Americans.

People in the calorie restriction group had total and low-density lipoprotein — known as LDL or "bad" cholesterol — levels comparable to the lowest 10 percent of the population in their respective age groups.

Their high-density lipoprotein — known as HDL or "good" cholesterol — levels were in the 85th percentile to 90th percentile for middle-aged men.

That finding was a surprise because HDL levels typically decrease when individuals follow low-fat diets to lose weight.

Triglyceride levels — which, when elevated, can lead to atherosclerosis — were even more impressive in the calorie restriction group: They were lower than more than 95 percent of Americans in their 20s, despite the fact that the study participants' ages ranged from 35-82.

In contrast, cholesterol and triglyceride levels in the comparison group were in the 50th percentile for average middle-aged Americans. Moreover, 12 of the individuals in the calorie restriction group provided medical records from before and during the diet.

Their cholesterol and triglyceride scores also were close to the 50th percentile for middle-aged Americans before the diet, and levels fell the most dramatically during their first year of calorie restriction.

Blood pressure scores in the restricted group also were equivalent to those of much younger individuals. The average blood pressure in the normal diet group was about 130/80, which is standard for a typical American.

In comparison, the calorie restriction group's average was about 100/60, akin to the blood pressure of an average 10-year-old.

Fasting glucose and insulin — both markers of the risk of developing diabetes — also were significantly lower in the calorie restriction group, with insulin concentrations as much as 65 percent lower.

All other risk factors measured also were significantly better in the calorie-restriction group.

They included body mass index, body fat mass, C-reactive protein and the thickness of the carotid artery, the main blood vessel that runs from the heart to the brain.

"These effects are all pretty dramatic," Fontana said. "For the first time, we've shown that calorie restriction is feasible and has a tremendous effect on the risk for atherosclerosis and diabetes."

The team is conducting a controlled, prospective study comparing calorie restriction to the average American diet.

The researchers ultimately hope to follow these individuals for a longer period of time to assess the long-term effects of calorie restriction on biological markers of aging.

why are you posting more bullshit ?

no one disagrees that calorie reduction is healthier - untill malnutrition sets in that is ::)

you claimed the threshold for problems to develop are simply not possible when consuming limited calories.

so wheres the proof that eating trans fats, sugar, etc is not dangerous or unhealthy because you eat reduced calories.  ???
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« Reply #313 on: November 19, 2008, 10:03:06 AM »
why are you posting more bullshit ?

no one disagrees that calorie reduction is healthier - untill malnutrition sets in that is ::)

you claimed the threshold for problems to develop are simply not possible when consuming limited calories.

so wheres the proof that eating trans fats, sugar, etc is not dangerous or unhealthy because you eat reduced calories.  ???

How many times can this guy keep getting off the canvas and post more nonsense?  He's tireless in his fruitless pursuit of proving others wrong.  He's a glutton for punishment.

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« Reply #314 on: November 19, 2008, 10:05:21 AM »
Prove "a calorie is a calorie".

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« Reply #315 on: November 19, 2008, 10:05:38 AM »
How many times can this guy keep getting off the canvas and post more nonsense?  He's tireless in his fruitless pursuit of proving others wrong.  He's a glutton for punishment.

i think he knows he's wrong and simply can not admit it because he will feel like a fool.

what he doesn't realise is that he looks like a fool for persiting in this nonsense.
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« Reply #316 on: November 19, 2008, 10:06:06 AM »
yes, but not at the expense of their health.

from burgers i would try steak, from deep fried chicken in batter, i would try lemon pepper chicken fillets.

deep fried fries to over baked fries

all healthier options - and just as tasty. - less calories too.

however on your diet, telling a fat guy/girl he can eat his ice cream but stop at half a tub, is like telling a crack addict to only smoke half the pipe ::) its not going to happen.

I disagree. The worst thing for their health is their weight. That's the first priority. I also disagree that those foods are equal in taste. Try putting them on your diet and I try putting them on mine. I am pretty sure that more people in my group will stay on the diet for the first year.

I say that from my own experience. I am a lazy slacker, just like most obese people (at least when it comes to dieting). I have a much easier time on my current diet than I ever had on a "clean" diet.

As I said, after they have learned that they can very well lose weight on their current diet, more food variety can be introduced. As soon as the motivation is there, it will be no problem anymore.

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« Reply #317 on: November 19, 2008, 10:09:27 AM »
i think he knows he's wrong and simply can not admit it because he will feel like a fool.

what he doesn't realise is that he looks like a fool for persiting in this nonsense.

I agree - he lacks the ability to self-analyze and find a better way to communicate his ideas.  He's rather dense.

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« Reply #318 on: November 19, 2008, 10:11:49 AM »

You know what, find ONE guy who has some credibility and credentials to back up what you preach.  Just that may get you some respect (not much but some).  Right now you guys like AssHoletic and Falcon and others backing you up.  You have no one real behind you.  Hope this helps, cause I like your stick-to-it-tiveness but you are fighting a battle you can't win right now.
He just showed you one and as I stated earlier Layne Norton, Tommy Jeffers, their clients, etc. believe much of the same.

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« Reply #319 on: November 19, 2008, 10:12:44 AM »
I agree - he lacks the ability to self-analyze and find a better way to communicate his ideas.  He's rather dense.

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« Reply #320 on: November 19, 2008, 10:17:08 AM »
This brings to mind the old adage "Excuses are like assholes, everyone's got one"  Instead of wasting bandwidth and time cutting and pasting all your gibberish why don't you go to the gym get some size on your bones, follow your diet and show people what you can do instead of just talking about it.  Sorry son but not many people will take a 6' tall 160 lb kid seriously.  All you do is talk.  You have nothing to back it up (except when you say science).  Can you imagine how embarrassed you would be in front of Jeez and your one friend AssHoletic if they saw you debating someone in person who knows what they are talking about. 

You know what, find ONE guy who has some credibility and credentials to back up what you preach.  Just that may get you some respect (not much but some).  Right now you guys like AssHoletic and Falcon and others backing you up.  You have no one real behind you.  Hope this helps, cause I like your stick-to-it-tiveness but you are fighting a battle you can't win right now.

What do you think a lifetime natural at 6' should weigh at under 8% BF?

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« Reply #321 on: November 19, 2008, 10:17:46 AM »
I disagree. The worst thing for their health is their weight. That's the first priority. I also disagree that those foods are equal in taste. Try putting them on your diet and I try putting them on mine. I am pretty sure that more people in my group will stay on the diet for the first year.

I say that from my own experience. I am a lazy slacker, just like most obese people (at least when it comes to dieting). I have a much easier time on my current diet than I ever had on a "clean" diet.

As I said, after they have lerned that they can very well lose weight on their current diet, more food variety can be introduced. As soon as the motivation is there, it will be no problem anymore.


your missing the point. there are other healthier tasty foods, it does not have to be bland chicken etc.

poison is poison - regardless of there being less.

your people may lose weight, and be slightly healthier due to the drop in calories.

my people would lose weight and be much healthier, due to the drop in calories and the eradication of transfats.

regarding the ability to stick to a diet long term, i disagree. Having them eat the foods that got them fat in the first place - high sugars, high fats, candy, etc will not work for 95% of the population.

everybody on the planet knows to lose weight all they have to do is eat less, why arn't they achieving it then ?

there is hormonal fluctuations, insulin, serotonin, etc that all play a part in making junk food like a drug in terms of addictions. not to mention greed.
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« Reply #322 on: November 19, 2008, 10:19:18 AM »
Prove "a calorie is a calorie".
2nd law of Thermodynamics.
Simple, Burn 1000 calories of Fat, 1000 Calories of Protein and 1000 calories of Carbohydrates and measure the heat. You can also burn anything to 1000 calories of heat given off, stone, wood, steel and so on.

A calorie will ALWAYS be a calorie.  A macro nutrient is not a macro nutrient and I think you may be getting that confused.

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« Reply #323 on: November 19, 2008, 10:21:32 AM »
this drug like effect from food is directly correlated to bodyfat levels too. so the slimmer they get the easier it is to diet- until extreme leanness is sought, then they have to fight the starvation signals.
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« Reply #324 on: November 19, 2008, 10:26:39 AM »
How many times can this guy keep getting off the canvas and post more nonsense?  He's tireless in his fruitless pursuit of proving others wrong.  He's a glutton for punishment.

The thing Apenis doesnt get in his head is that all he does is post shit others have already done.  He thinks in his head that he has come up with some new method of dieting or getting in shape.  Nothing he has said or done is original.  It is all from other peoples work and research.  He puts a little twist on it tells everyone this is how you do it but can't produce any proof it works.  He is a funny guy

What do you think a lifetime natural at 6' should weigh at under 8% BF?

If you going to come on a BB board and preach to people who lift weights and so forth and constantly tell pro athletes they look like shit or are weak or have no muscle then at least show signs you are better than them and better built.  No matter how you look at it, Apenis is in shape but he is skinny as hell.  And he says he doesn't do cardio or you don't need it.  What kind of shape is he is (regardless of what he weighs).  I again will go backwards in time like I always do but at 300 lbs. I guarantee he could not outdo me cardio wise.  I was riding my bike (up hills too) to the gym twice a day at 7 miles each way.  I did additional cardio at the gym in the morning workout.  I would come home swim a little then go down to the high school and practice.  On weekends I would tie a 120 lb truck tire around my waist and pull it around Diamond Head.  And at the same time I was still benching close to 500.  SO I guarantee you his skinny ass would not come close to me in cardio regardless how skinny he is.

Getting back to your question, why is he 8% bodyfat.  He should weigh about 190 to 200 looking trim and with muscle.  And he associates being skinny with being healthy.  What is his cholesterol levels.  you would think with him being so "in shape" they would be awesome.  I bet my levels are lower or at least even with his.  I am 150 pounds heavier than I was.  So him saying skinny is healthy is stupid.