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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #300 on: November 28, 2008, 07:09:27 PM »
That means what? it's true? that was 2002 his back was ' soft ' compared to 2001 ACS and 1998 what advantage is a soft back?

bwahahaha, all those years of reading Flex magazine in your mom's basement has made you delusional. So you think you know more than a paid bodybuilding commentator who was actually there?

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Again Ronnie himself said Dorian had the thickest & freakiest back HE ever seen this counts less than what Mike Mattarazzo says? or others? you're not looking objectively , just looking for anyone who will agree with you.

yawn, Ronnie also said he deserved to win the 06 Mr. Olympia (which you conveniently ignore). So he has proven himself not a reliable person to judge physiques. ;)


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #301 on: November 28, 2008, 07:13:45 PM »
This is a know photo of the two side-by-side on stage , just 7 pounds separate the two and look at the staggering difference in backs in terms of width , detail and thickness , look at the size of the traps now seeing one can't lengthen their muscles Ronnie's traps will NEVER be as big as Dorian's no matter how heavy he becomes , his teres & infraspinatus will never be as big as Dorian's , his lats will NEVER insert as low as Dorian's , the only way he can improve is width and thickness , two areas Dorian excelled at , how does a wider softer back constitute a better back at the expense of size * density? I think not and this isn't even Dorian at his best or heaviest , his back at 269 pounds destroys anything Ronnie has ever shown

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #302 on: November 28, 2008, 07:15:18 PM »
ha ha ha, what do you know? You weren't even at the contest. So your opinion means shit.

So, you want people to agree with your assertion based upon the viewing of the clip you provided, but should they disagree, their opinion is then null and void and a prerequisite to have been at the contest live is the only detail for consideration?  Something about your answer involuntarily suggests that you know Dorian is better in the clip posted, and being unable to counter with a valid argument, you then present your feeble rebuttal.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #303 on: November 28, 2008, 07:15:42 PM »
DEAL WITH IT.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #304 on: November 28, 2008, 07:17:50 PM »
bwahahaha, all those years of reading Flex magazine in your mom's basement has made you delusional. So you think you know more than a paid bodybuilding commentator who was actually there?

yawn, Ronnie also said he deserved to win the 06 Mr. Olympia (which you conveniently ignore). So he has proven himself not a reliable person to judge physiques. ;)



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bwahahaha, all those years of reading Flex magazine in your mom's basement has made you delusional. So you think you know more than a paid bodybuilding commentator who was actually there?

LMMFAO the most ironic post you ever made , YOU of all people arguing despite the fact of NEVER once seeing both libe and in person that Peter McGough is FLAT OUT WRONG that Ronnie has never harder or drier than Dorian , you're a hypocrite and a moron and wrong lol


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RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


does it hurt dummy?


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yawn, Ronnie also said he deserved to win the 06 Mr. Olympia (which you conveniently ignore). So he has proven himself not a reliable person to judge physiques. ;)

yawn now where did I see that before? Oh I know you copied it from me  ;) yeah he's reliable when you need him to be lmafo you're an ignorant hypocrite and Ronnie's opinion actually seen Dorian so his opinion trumps yours fan-boy  ;) and it's in line with a LOT of well respected people in the industry


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #305 on: November 28, 2008, 07:17:56 PM »
This is a know photo of the two side-by-side on stage , just 7 pounds separate the two and look at the staggering difference in backs in terms of width , detail and thickness , look at the size of the traps now seeing one can't lengthen their muscles Ronnie's traps will NEVER be as big as Dorian's no matter how heavy he becomes , his teres & infraspinatus will never be as big as Dorian's , his lats will NEVER insert as low as Dorian's , the only way he can improve is width and thickness , two areas Dorian excelled at , how does a wider softer back constitute a better back at the expense of size * density? I think not and this isn't even Dorian at his best or heaviest , his back at 269 pounds destroys anything Ronnie has ever shown

ha ha ha, keep following me around like a lost puppy dog. I know you missed me during my 1 day absence from Getbig b/c you were eager to respond to me. You even responded to my post to Mr.1derful. Face it, I own your ass ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #306 on: November 28, 2008, 07:19:10 PM »
DEAL WITH IT.

deal with what? slanted comparisons in which Ronnie has the same length lats & traps , etc  as Dorians when reality says otherwise , your photoshopped pics are the only way Ronnie is going to beat Dorian

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #307 on: November 28, 2008, 07:20:09 PM »
ha ha ha, keep following me around like a lost puppy dog. I know you missed me during my 1 day absence from Getbig b/c you were eager to respond to me. You even responded to my post to Mr.1derful. Face it, I own your ass ;)

So, you don't dispute that Yates is clearly superior in the comparison that ND posted.  Got it.  Moving right along... ;D

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #308 on: November 28, 2008, 07:21:09 PM »
So, you want people to agree with your assertion based upon the viewing of the clip you provided, but should they disagree, their opinion is then null and void and a prerequisite to have been at the contest live is the only detail for consideration?  Something about your answer involuntarily suggests that you know Dorian is better in the clip posted, and being unable to counter with a valid argument, you then present your feeble rebuttal.

nah, I actually encourage people to share their opinion. I was just parodying ND's typical retort whenever he posts a quote supporting Dorian.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #309 on: November 28, 2008, 07:22:16 PM »
Dorian had the best, most detailed and biggest back bodybuilding has ever seen.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #310 on: November 28, 2008, 07:22:40 PM »
ha ha ha, keep following me around like a lost puppy dog. I know you missed me during my 1 day absence from Getbig b/c you were eager to respond to me. You even responded to my post to Mr.1derful. Face it, I own your ass ;)

Thanks for avoiding that like the plague  ;) you're owned by McGough oppsss another one you want to avoid lol sucker and you keep following ME from thread to thread , you keep copying my tag-lines , you know what they say? imitation lol sucker

I own you boy-Neo you're a toy that I play with and when I get tired of exposing your ignorance & hypocrisy I put you away until I have the desire to school you again , you're not in my league and never will be kid  ;)

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #311 on: November 28, 2008, 07:22:52 PM »
ND, ironic that no one wants to endeavor to rebute the clips posted, or your actual comparison photo, complete with detailed analysis.  Perhaps we should conclude such silence as agreement that Yates, as is clear, is better.  It's their way of agreeing while saving face.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #312 on: November 28, 2008, 07:23:19 PM »
So, you don't dispute that Yates is clearly superior in the comparison that ND posted.  Got it.  Moving right along...

I don't need to dispute what ND says. He already knows that I feel Ronnie at his best would beat Dorian.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #313 on: November 28, 2008, 07:25:58 PM »
nah, I actually encourage people to share their opinion. I was just parodying ND's typical retort whenever he posts a quote supporting Dorian.

My ass parodying  ::) you tried to play my game and failed as usual . in order for you to discuss the topic you'd have to be knowlegeable on how bodybuilding is judges , I have proven YOU do NOT time & time again , you never knew the judging criteria until I posted , you thought balance & proportion were the same thing lol you thought Ronnie 2003 was his prime , you though ( still think ) Ronnie is harder & drier than Dorian .

you're not in the game kid you need to know how it's played before you can step up to the plate with the big boys

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #314 on: November 28, 2008, 07:26:29 PM »
ND, ironic that no one wants to endeavor to rebute the clips posted, or your actual comparison photo, complete with detailed analysis.  Perhaps we should conclude such silence as agreement that Yates, as is clear, is better.  It's their way of agreeing, while saving face.

look at your post count. Then look at ND's, Hulkster's, and mine. Half of our posts are from arguing over who is better between Dorian and Ronnie (kinda sad, I know). You jumped into this discussion about 3 yrs too late.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #315 on: November 28, 2008, 07:26:30 PM »
Even though Dorian is at his worst in this shot, Ronnie never managed to come close to this.


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #316 on: November 28, 2008, 07:27:51 PM »
ND, ironic that no one wants to endeavor to rebute the clips posted, or your actual comparison photo, complete with detailed analysis.  Perhaps we should conclude such silence as agreement that Yates, as is clear, is better.  It's their way of agreeing, while saving face.

They know they can't touch it , they've been humbled many times before , so their M.O. now is ad hominem attacks and denial , classic aversion tactics , now they just follow me around attacking the messenger while dismissing the message it's called obsession .


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #317 on: November 28, 2008, 07:28:55 PM »
I don't need to dispute what ND says. He already knows that I feel Ronnie at his best would beat Dorian.

You see, simply having a feeling isn't something that can be presented as fact.  It cannot even be passed of as a probability, without any corresponding basis to reinforce it.  ND has provided a detailed explanation for his point of view, which no one has the capacity to refute.  Or perhaps more accurately, Ronnie has not the back on which to rest an argument, in order to refute him.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #318 on: November 28, 2008, 07:29:20 PM »
Even though Dorian is at his worst in this shot, Ronnie never managed to come close to this.



You're right he's 266 pounds in that pic and his back is hard as nails and wide as fuck Ronnie's back at 264 pounds in 2000 is wide & soft , Dorian's back just as advantages Ronnie's doesn't.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #319 on: November 28, 2008, 07:29:34 PM »
You see, simply having a feeling isn't something that can be presented as fact.  It cannot even be passed of as a probability, without any corresponding basis to reinforce it.  ND has provided a detailed explanation for his point of view, which no one has the capacity to refute.  Or perhaps more accurately, Ronnie has not the back on which to rest an argument, in order to refute him.

see above.

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #320 on: November 28, 2008, 07:33:43 PM »
see above.

You still don't know what you're talking about 3 years later , I know you're a proud man but you're a wrong one as well , you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts

the fact is NO matter how heavy Ronnie became his traps would never be bigger than Dorians , his lats with never insert as low , his teres and infraspinatus would never be as big , the other areas Ronnie improved on is width & ' thickness ' Dorian has the strengths as well and he's harder in the back , in all honesty you can't say Ronnie has a better back I don't care what team-flex says


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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #321 on: November 28, 2008, 07:44:40 PM »
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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #322 on: November 29, 2008, 05:25:06 AM »
its not hard to see why ronnie's back was ranked above dorian's

this is the best shot of dorian's back ever taken, (the famous 93 shots) and his back is paper thin compared to ronnie's

it lacks the thickness, taper and has garbage arms to complete the pose.

it has better symmetry (traps not uneven and one trap doesn't totally overpower the other trap like dorian) and better deliniation between the muscle groups.


also, no jay culter like wrinkles of loose skin above the tights.

you wanted analysis? you got one. a

and unlike all the guy bullshit, the visuals SUPPORT the analysis, unlike ND and his bullshit.

its not even close:
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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #323 on: November 29, 2008, 07:26:51 AM »
its not hard to see why ronnie's back was ranked above dorian's

this is the best shot of dorian's back ever taken, (the famous 93 shots) and his back is paper thin compared to ronnie's

it lacks the thickness, taper and has garbage arms to complete the pose.

it has better symmetry (traps not uneven and one trap doesn't totally overpower the other trap like dorian) and better deliniation between the muscle groups.


also, no jay culter like wrinkles of loose skin above the tights.

you wanted analysis? you got one. a

and unlike all the guy bullshit, the visuals SUPPORT the analysis, unlike ND and his bullshit.

its not even close:

lmfao at ' analysis ' the moment you typed ' paper thin ' you exposed yourself as the ignorant dummy you are

please continue with your meltdown  :D

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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT
« Reply #324 on: November 29, 2008, 07:32:56 AM »
its not hard to see why ronnie's back was ranked above dorian's

this is the best shot of dorian's back ever taken, (the famous 93 shots) and his back is paper thin compared to ronnie's

it lacks the thickness, taper and has garbage arms to complete the pose.

it has better symmetry (traps not uneven and one trap doesn't totally overpower the other trap like dorian) and better deliniation between the muscle groups.


also, no jay culter like wrinkles of loose skin above the tights.

you wanted analysis? you got one. a

and unlike all the guy bullshit, the visuals SUPPORT the analysis, unlike ND and his bullshit.

its not even close:

Oh and your bitch about wrinkles and you proceed to post a picture of Ronnie with wrinkles right under his lats LMMFAO see backfire you know the way you've been there many times