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Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:37:17 PM »

President-Elect Obama strongly condemns today's terrorist attacks in Mumbai, and his thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families, and the people of India. These coordinated attacks on innocent civilians demonstrate the grave and urgent threat of terrorism. The United States must continue to strengthen our partnerships with India and nations around the world to root out and destroy terrorist networks. We stand with the people of India, whose democracy will prove far more resilient than the hateful ideology that led to these attacks. 

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 10:19:19 PM »
President-Elect Obama strongly condemns today's terrorist attacks in Mumbai, and his thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families, and the people of India. These coordinated attacks on innocent civilians demonstrate the grave and urgent threat of terrorism. The United States must continue to strengthen our partnerships with India and nations around the world to root out and destroy terrorist networks. We stand with the people of India, whose democracy will prove far more resilient than the hateful ideology that led to these attacks. 


Don't forget he wants to cut a 1/4 of the military budget.......great idea :(

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2008, 02:25:46 AM »
Don't forget he wants to cut a 1/4 of the military budget.......great idea :(
That would be a great idea.

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A country like Japan has a very low military budget.
Yet they aren't being a major target for terrorists.
The same thing could be said for eg Norway, which is an ally to USA in the NATO.
What's your take on this? 
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2008, 02:30:42 AM »
That would be a great idea.

Look Coach.
A country like Japan has a very low military budget.
Yet they aren't being a major target for terrorists.
The same thing could be said for eg Norway, which is an ally to USA in the NATO.
What's your take on this? 

The only countries being hit are the military top dogs, US and Britain and to an extent countries with a large mulsim minority, France, Spain etc.

Japan never gets involved in jack shit and has a tiny muslim demographic, so that example is null.

Wonder if members of the peaceful religion of islam are the perpetrators in this attack? ::)

Seriously, frank debate about islamic ideology would do everyone (except muslims and the progression of islam) wonders.
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2008, 02:36:32 AM »
Japanese don't let Muslims infest their country and their culture like the U.S. and Europe does.  That's the biggest reason why they don't suffer from terrorism.  I mean America is becoming a fucking joke.  We admire other countries like Japan for embracing their culture and identity yet we are criticized as ethnocentric racists if we do it in America.  I mean when another minority requires you to put footbaths in your airports something is very fucking wrong with that picture. 

The other big reason is they don't have their measly grubby hands in every other country like we do.  Blowback is real and it will end the U.S. and every other modern sovereign nation who has an imperialistic foreign policy. 

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2008, 03:33:16 AM »
Japanese don't let Muslims infest their country and their culture like the U.S. and Europe does.  That's the biggest reason why they don't suffer from terrorism.  I mean America is becoming a fucking joke.  We admire other countries like Japan for embracing their culture and identity yet we are criticized as ethnocentric racists if we do it in America.  I mean when another minority requires you to put footbaths in your airports something is very fucking wrong with that picture. 

The other big reason is they don't have their measly grubby hands in every other country like we do.  Blowback is real and it will end the U.S. and every other modern sovereign nation who has an imperialistic foreign policy. 

Japanes admire other cultures more than their own, that is why their Anime and Manga (billion dolloar industries) has nothing but white people with Japanese names. it's a huge problem...

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 05:08:58 AM »
Don't forget he wants to cut a 1/4 of the military budget.......great idea :(

The sad part about ultra conservatives like you is that because Obama politically ideology is different from yours you sit around all day & pray he fails. Now I never like George Bush but I never sat around wishing he would mess the country up.

Note: You also never answered who's supposed to pay back the trillions the conservatives have borrowed?

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2008, 05:23:50 AM »
mccain said in the campaign that he'll cut defense spending as well, remember?  ;)

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2008, 05:32:07 AM »
mccain said in the campaign that he'll cut defense spending as well, remember?  ;)
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2008, 05:41:56 AM »
mccain said in the campaign that he'll cut defense spending as well, remember?  ;)

Come on Rob you know that it doesn't count because McCain said it.  ;)

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008, 08:29:30 AM »
Don't forget he wants to cut a 1/4 of the military budget.......great idea :(

once again chicken hawk(too weak to serve your country in the military) you are fuckin wrong.  by the way, did the army reject you for being too short, a drug abuser, for being a complete retard or just too chicken to serve?

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2008, 09:53:25 AM »
The only countries being hit are the military top dogs, US and Britain and to an extent countries with a large mulsim minority, France, Spain etc.

Japan never gets involved in jack shit and has a tiny muslim demographic, so that example is null.

Wonder if members of the peaceful religion of islam are the perpetrators in this attack? ::)

Seriously, frank debate about islamic ideology would do everyone (except muslims and the progression of islam) wonders.

Nordic, it isn't just Islam; sure it's part of it but it mainly foreign policy.
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2008, 09:58:01 AM »
We definitely need to spend more on military...

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Rank   Country   Military expenditures (USD)   Date of information   
—  World Total 1,470,000,000,000 2008[1]
—  NATO Total 1,049,875,309,000 
1  United States 711,000,000,000 2009[2]
—  European Union Total 311,920,000,000 2007[3]
2  France 61,571,330,000 2008-2009[4]
3  United Kingdom 61,280,890,000 2008[5]
4  People's Republic of China 61,036,400,000 2008[6]
5  Russia 50,000,000,000 2009[7][8]
6  Japan 48,860,000,000 2008[9]
7  Germany 45,930,000,000 2008[10]
8  Italy 40,060,000,000 2008 (est.)[citation needed]
9  Saudi Arabia 31,050,000,000 2008[11]
10  South Korea 28,940,000,000 2008[12]
11  India 26,500,000,000 2008-2009[1]
12  Australia 24,802,000,000 2008[13]
13  Brazil 23,972,836,012 2009[14]
14  Turkey 22,066,134,000 2008[15]
15  Canada 18,695,342,000 2008-2009[16]
16  Iraq 17,900,000,000 2008
17  Spain 17,700,000,000 2008[citation needed]
18  Netherlands 12,000,000,000 2008[17]
19  Poland 11,791,000,000 2009[18]
20  Republic of China (Taiwan) 10,500,000,000 2008
21  Israel 9,444,000,000 2007
22  Greece 7,934,000,000 2007[19]
23  Pakistan 7,800,000,000 2008
24  Singapore 7,129,400,000 2007
25  Sweden 6,309,137,714 2007[20]
26  Iran 6,300,000,000 2005[21]
27  Mexico 6,070,000,000 2006[22][23]
28  Norway 5,725,000,000 2007
29  North Korea 5,500,000,000 2005[24]
30  Chile 5,193,000,000 2007[25]
31  Thailand 5,000,000,000 2009 [26]
32  Indonesia 4,740,000,000 2008
33  Argentina 4,300,000,000 NA
34  South Africa 4,067,879,840 2008-2009[27]
35  Belgium 4,000,000,000 2007[28]
36  Venezuela 4,000,000,000 2007
37  Portugal 3,497,800,000 2003
38  Colombia 3,300,000,000 2005
39  Egypt 3,300,000,000 2003[29]
40  Denmark 3,271,600,000 2003
41  Vietnam 3,200,000,000 2005 [30]
42  Kuwait 3,007,000,000 2005
43  Algeria 2,994,000,000 2005
44  Austria 2,978,000,000 FY08[31]
45  Romania 2,900,000,000 2007[32]
46  Czech Republic 2,840,000,000 2008[33]
47  Finland 2,800,000,000 FY06
48  Switzerland 2,548,000,000 2005
49  Azerbaijan 2,460,000,000 2009[34][35]
50  Morocco 2,306,000,000 2005
51  Ukraine 2,066,806,000 2008[36]
52  Angola 2,000,000,000 2005
53  Peru 1,829,300,000 2008 [37]
54  Malaysia 1,690,000,000 NA
55  Sri Lanka 1,610,000,000 2008-2009[citation needed]
56  United Arab Emirates 1,600,000,000 NA
57  New Zealand 1,526,000,000 2008
58  Slovakia 1,408,000,000 2008
59  Jordan 1,392,000,000 2005
60  Hungary 1,376,000,000 2007
61  Philippines 1,348,000,000 2007
62  Libya 1,300,000,000 2007
63  Ireland 1,300,000,000 2007
64  Serbia 1,200,000,000 2007
65  Georgia 1,200,000,000 2007
66  Croatia 1,140,000,000 2008
67  Yemen 992,200,000 2005
68  Syria 858,000,000 2005
69  Bangladesh 836,900,000 2007
70  Nigeria 737,600,000 2005
71  Bulgaria 730,000,000 2007
72  Qatar 694,000,000 2005
73  Cuba 694,000,000 NA
74  Bahrain 627,700,000 2005
75  Lithuania 621,000,000 2007
76  Sudan 587,000,000 2004
77  Lebanon 540,600,000 2004
78  Armenia 495,000,000 2009[38]
79  Belarus 420,500,000 2006
80  Ethiopia 400,000,000 2008/9[39][40]
81  Cyprus 384,000,000 NA
82  Uruguay 371,200,000 2005
83  Slovenia 370,000,000 2007
84  Tunisia 356,000,000 NA
85  Madagascar 329,000,000 2005
86  Botswana 325,500,000 2005
87  Brunei 290,700,000 2004
88  Kenya 280,500,000 2005
89  Estonia 259,000,000 FY06
90  Oman 252,990,000 2005
91  Côte d'Ivoire 246,600,000 2005
92  Albania 235,000,000 2007
93  Bosnia and Herzegovina 234,300,000 NA
94  Luxembourg 231,076,480 2003
95  Cameroon 230,200,000 2005
96  Kazakhstan 221,800,000 FY02
97  Eritrea 220,100,000 2005
98  Uzbekistan 200,000,000 NA
99  Uganda 192,800,000 2005
100  Dominican Republic 180,000,000 FY98
101  Guatemala 169,800,000 2005
102  El Salvador 161,700,000 2005
103  Equatorial Guinea 152,200,000 2005
104  Panama 150,000,000 2005
105  Namibia 149,500,000 2005
106  Bolivia 130,000,000 2005
107  Zimbabwe 124,700,000 2005
108  Afghanistan 122,400,000 2005
109  Zambia 121,700,000 2005
110  Guinea 119,700,000 2005
111  Republic of Macedonia 117,710,000 2006
112  Senegal 117,300,000 2005
113  Cambodia 112,000,000 NA
114  Mali 106,300,000 2005
115  Nepal 104,900,000 2005
116  Congo, Democratic Republic of the 103,700,000 2005
117  Benin 100,900,000 2005
118  Honduras 99,410,000 2005
119  Turkmenistan 90,000,000 NA
120  Latvia 87,000,000 2007
121  Congo, Republic of the 85,220,000 2005
122  Ghana 83,650,000 2005
123  Costa Rica 83,460,000 2005
124  Mozambique 78,030,000 2005
125  Burkina Faso 74,830,000 2005
126  Chad 68,950,000 2005
127  Liberia 67,400,000 2005
128  Trinidad and Tobago 66,720,000 2003
129  Rwanda 53,660,000 2005
130  Paraguay 53,100,000 2003
131  Maldives 45,070,000 2005
132  guy 44,780,000 2005
133  Malta 44,640,000 2005
134  Burundi 43,900,000 2005
135  Swaziland 41,600,000 2005
136  Lesotho 41,100,000 2005
137  Burma NA NA
138  Fiji 36,000,000 2004
139  Tajikistan 35,400,000 FY01
140  Nicaragua 32,270,000 2005
141  Jamaica 31,170,000 2003
142  Togo 29,980,000 2005
143  Djibouti 29,050,000 2005
144  Iceland 26,000,000 2008[41]
145  Haiti 25,960,000 2003
146  Mongolia 23,100,000 FY02
147  Somalia 22,340,000 2005
148  Tanzania 21,200,000 2005
149  Mauritania 19,320,000 2005
150  Kyrgyzstan 19,200,000 FY01
151  Belize 19,000,000 2005
152  Papua New Guinea 16,900,000 2003
153  Central African Republic 16,370,000 2005
154  Malawi 15,810,000 2005
155  Seychelles 14,850,000 2005
156  Sierra Leone 14,250,000 2005
157  Comoros 12,870,000 2005
158  Mauritius 12,040,000 2005
159  Laos 11,040,000 2005
160  Guinea-Bissau 9,455,000 2005
161  Moldova 8,700,000 2004
162  Bhutan 8,281,000 2005
163  Suriname 7,494,000 2005
164  Cape Verde 7,178,000 2005
165  Guyana 6,479,000 2003
166  East Timor 4,400,000 FY03
167  Bermuda, UK overseas territory 4,030,000 2001
168  Gambia, The 1,547,000 2004
169  San Marino 700,000 2005
170  São Tomé and Príncipe 581,700 2004
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2008, 10:49:45 AM »
Japanes admire other cultures more than their own, that is why their Anime and Manga (billion dolloar industries) has nothing but white people with Japanese names. it's a huge problem...
LOL you ever been to japan bro? that culture is so deep rooted you have no idea.

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2008, 11:38:44 AM »
LOL you ever been to japan bro? that culture is so deep rooted you have no idea.

Donkeykong is getbig's Japan expert.
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2008, 05:14:29 PM »
Don't forget he wants to cut a 1/4 of the military budget.......great idea :(

You can't fight terrorists with the military. Terrorist don't come out and say "Hey I'm a terrorist let's play Cowboys and Indians", they go along quietly pretending they're just like any other civilian until they are ready to strike. What you need to fight terrorists is intelligence and good police work as well as a watchful population.

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2008, 07:16:42 PM »
Come on Rob you know that it doesn't count because McCain said it.  ;)

I think there are probably plenty of wasteful things that can be cut, and useful things that need more funding.

The govt contractors should be investigated as well for their pricing streucture.

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2008, 07:20:53 PM »
Nordic, it isn't just Islam; sure it's part of it but it mainly foreign policy.

That is utter nonsense.

Islamic peoples have for their entire history engaged in warfare with everyone and anyone not like themselves, even well before the US existed!

They move from one piss poor excuse to another as to why commit their savage acts.  Its a tired story by now.

Wherever islam exists there is warfare, its that simple.  Read your history.  The Koran advocates war and has propmted its followers to do just that since the begninnig.

This did not start with the USA and wont end their either.

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2008, 08:31:27 PM »
I think Nordic is a little off in his rhetorics, but essentially he's right.
It's just not only 'extreme' Islam that is a problem.
The religion in itself is fundamentally imperialistic and it is also fundamentalist by nature - it's not open to interpretation or to evolve.
But Islam can't be defeated with weapons.
Islam picks up a huge following in war ridden 3rd world countries.
Islam is defeated if you set up rules in your society and forces everyone to follow them, and through education.
Some multi-culti huggers, like jaguar on this board, like to fight for women's rights on home court.
But when it comes to the usual worst countries in the world for a woman to live in, eg Iran, they always keep quiet.
Essentially, Nordic is right.
Did I just write that?
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2008, 01:41:21 AM »
I think Nordic is a little off in his rhetorics, but essentially he's right.
It's just not only 'extreme' Islam that is a problem.
The religion in itself is fundamentally imperialistic and it is also fundamentalist by nature - it's not open to interpretation or to evolve.
But Islam can't be defeated with weapons.
Islam picks up a huge following in war ridden 3rd world countries.
Islam is defeated if you set up rules in your society and forces everyone to follow them, and through education.
Some multi-culti huggers, like jaguar on this board, like to fight for women's rights on home court.
But when it comes to the usual worst countries in the world for a woman to live in, eg Iran, they always keep quiet.
Essentially, Nordic is right.
Did I just write that?

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2008, 03:13:10 AM »
That is utter nonsense.

Islamic peoples have for their entire history engaged in warfare with everyone and anyone not like themselves, even well before the US existed!

They move from one piss poor excuse to another as to why commit their savage acts.  Its a tired story by now.

Wherever islam exists there is warfare, its that simple.  Read your history.  The Koran advocates war and has propmted its followers to do just that since the begninnig.

This did not start with the USA and wont end their either.

I said it is both Islam and Foreign Policy. US foreign policy exacerbates things tenfold. If the US had minded its own business it might have had fewer enemies but the US imperialist policy has made it too late for that.
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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2008, 10:28:23 AM »
Agreed.  Countries must set up rules and make islamic immigrants follow the parent country's rules.  Many muslims do not assimilate and much of their religion & beliefs are rigid and outdated.

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2008, 10:32:56 AM »
Agreed.  Countries must set up rules and make islamic immigrants follow the parent country's rules.  Many muslims do not assimilate and much of their religion & beliefs are rigid and outdated.

Bingo. Do what you want in your land, but once you come here you must assimilate.

Sadly, the US does a poor job of this. I mean go to any Department of Motor Vehicles in the States and the written part of the road test is offered in Spanish. Fucking pathetic.

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2008, 12:10:42 PM »
13 year old American girl among the dead. Wonderful people these Muslims are.

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Re: Statement from the Obama camp on the Mumbai attacks
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2008, 12:38:44 PM »
We definitely need to spend more on military...

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Rank   Country   Military expenditures (USD)   Date of information   
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