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Layton Claims Coalition Will Give Canadians Hope
Wednesday December 3, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff



"He's trying to turn an economic crisis into a political one."

That's how NDP leader Jack Layton is characterizing Stephen Harper's actions, as he fights against a coalition plan to take over his government.

Layton was the last of the three main party leaders to speak on Wednesday night after yet another amazing day on Parliament Hill.

In what's increasingly sounding like the same political rhetoric heard during an election campaign, Layton accused Harper of putting his own interests ahead of the country by clinging to power when Canada faces an economic abyss.

"He seems to be more interested in his job than in protecting your job," he chides in a rebuttal to the P.M.'s historic speech Wednesday night. "Now that's simply wrong."

Layton knows that the Conservatives have painted his partnership efforts with Stephane Dion and Gilles Duceppe as an undemocratic, separatist-supporting act of villainy. But he insists it's the exact opposite.

"The opposition parties acted together with a common objective to give hope back to the people and help them get through these difficult economic times," he assures. "For the first time the majority of the parties chosen by the people have set aside their differences ... for the good of Canada. And for the good of every Canadian."

He worries what will happen if Governor General Michaelle Jean grants his imminent request to end the Parliamentary session early.

"Every Canadian will be silenced, because this House will be not permitted to speak," he points out. "We will have a Conservative government without legitimacy. At the time of an economic crisis. That doesn't have to happen. Because this is a remarkable moment in Canadian history."

That last statement may be the only one on which both sides can agree.

NDP Leader Jack Layton responds to Harper's address to the nation on a push for a coalition


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Hello everyone,

All of the chips are on the table. This grassroots movement does not have the budget of the Conservative party. Instead, we have each other. We can cut through the Conservative counter-offensive to make sure that the voices of over 60% of Canadians rallying for a progressive coalition are heard! There are 10,000 of you on this listserv. So many, that this message may not reach some of you until after Harper's message. So - this message assumes he does not resign and let the coalition govern.

We need everything you have to reach our goals for this week: winning the struggle in the media for the hearts and minds of Canadians uncertain about a coalition and showing the progressive parties that Canadians support them. In addition to usual - letters to the editor, call in radio, forwarding this message - we need you to:

Sign up 5 Friends

We are going to submit the petition on Friday and it needs to be absolutely massive. In order to increase our already impressive numbers on our petition, we are challenging everyone on the mailing list to get 5 of their friends to sign the petition.  The petition is at: http://www.progressivecoalition.ca/

You can email them the direct link by clicking on the "share" button at www.progressivecoalition.ca/form.php, then clicking on "email".  Alternatively, you could forward them this message!
 
Join a rally, Bring a Petition!

There are a variety of rallies happening on that day.  They are listed on our facebook event page, www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=55449301160, and on our website, www.progressivecoalition.ca (Under the "Show your Support" link), and others at www.makeparliamentwork.ca.  These rallies are great time to collect additional signatures for our petition, which we are aiming to present to the Leaders of the Opposition on Friday. 

If you are attending any of the rallies posted, or any other events, please bring along a copy of the paper petition,  which can be found at the following address:  www.progressivecoalition.ca/petition.pdf  Please get signatures only from those who have not already signed our online petition at progressivecoalition.ca. After you have collected the signatures, please add them to this spreadsheet:  progressivecoalition.ca/petitioninput.xls , and send the completed excel files to events@progressivecoalition.ca . 

Light a Candle for the Coalition!

We want to spark a new spirit of cooperation in Parliament.

On Wednesday night at 8PM, light a candle in front of a street-facing window and turn off the light in the room for 20 minutes. (Make sure to keep the candle away from anything that can catch fire!)

On Thursday, at 5PM we are organizing Candles for a Coalition events across the country. We are going to take pictures and show Canadians from coast to coast support a coalition. If you can't attend a major event invite some of your friends over to light candles or do it yourself. Send us pictures!


Bring your own candle! And spread the word!
Rally locations:

VICTORIA
Candles for a Coalition – Thursday Dec 4
5:00 PM, Location: Hillside and Douglas Street

VANCOUVER
Candles for a Coalition - Thursday Dec 4
5:15, in Front of the Trades and Convention Centre
Will join the Make Parliment Work Rally afterwards

GUELPH
Candles for a Coalition – Thursday Dec 4
7:00pm, St. George's Square

GUELPH RALLY
Candles for a Coalition – Saturday, December 6th
12:00pm St. George's Square

Stratford, Ontario
Candles for Canada - Thur Dec 4
5-7pm March to City Hall
Meet Ontario St between Downie and Waterloo Streets
Walk to city hall at 7pm

GREAT VILLAGE, Nova Scotia
Candles for Coalition in the Village!
When: 6 pm, Thursday, December 4th
Where: 33 Lornevale Road

Cheers,
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At the risk of being pursued by David Letterman's lawyers for copyright infringement, here is:

The top 10 reasons why Stephen Harper must be toppled:

10. We wont have to see sweater boy and his demonic eyes on the news every night.

9. The Globes Jane Taber will stop writing gushing articles about Laureen.

8. No more businessmen will be guests hosts on CBC Radios The Current.

7. The military won't highjack Canadian professional sports events to trick our kids into becoming Taliban fodder.

6. Stockwell Day will have more time to go jet skiing on Lake Okanagan.

5. Maxime Bernier will try to become leader of the Conservative party.

4. Fraser Institute fellows won't get calls returned from the PMO anymore.

3. Elizabeth May can retire from politics knowing that her mission in life has been accomplished: Harper is no longer prime minister.

2. Stephane Dion will learn to speak better English.

1. Its going to be fun watching Harper pack his boxes and load up the moving vans before vacating 24 Sussex Drive in the middle of winter.
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One Conservative Canadian in favour of proportional representation speaks out on the coalition
(he's also the creator of the above top 10 list)

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The ugly side of Jean's job
Craig Offman, National Post 
December 03, 2008


Gary Clement on the crisis in Ottawa,   cartoon: Gary Clement/National Post

As Governor-General Michaëlle Jean returns on Wednesday to settle a once-in-a-lifetime political crisis, this unelected official possesses a Solomonic power, one that will determine the country's fate.

With all the dysfunction on Parliament Hill in the past five years, and certainly in the past five days, the position of governor-general has arguably inched past the requisite motions of ribbon-cutting and rubber-stamping. It is now floating in the more foggy, but much more influential and problematic, realm of what is called reserve power, or a head of state's discretion to reject the advice of a prime minister.

Detractors may see this process as a latter-day version of kingmaking, while supporters say the options before Ms. Jean call on her using the full range of the office's power.

Should she postpone the parliament's business, allow a coalition of erstwhile rivals to seize power from the Conservatives, or dissolve parliament and call an election?

One leading constitutional expert who has advised Ms. Jean's predecessors offered another option -- albeit with a royal flourish: "In 1931, there was a world economic crises, worse than the one we're in," explained Ted McWhinney. "And King George V–who was not an imaginative man–said we've got to have coalition government of all parties, and he formed them."

While leading Liberals such as Pierre Trudeau and John Manley used to question the job's usefulness, the recent spate of minority governments that have wobbled into power have begun to change all that.

In fact, the role might be more pivotal, and more controversial, than ever.

Governor-General watchers say that Ms. Jean has done an impeccable job since being appointed by Paul Martin in 2005. In Canada, she courted little controversy when she allowed Stephen Harper to call an election last fall, despite his promises to hold off. She has also proven to be an engaging emissary abroad.

Yet she has taken a few knocks for being too active in her role by dismissing sovereigntists and intimating support for the war in Afghanistan.

"Whatever she does, she will be criticized heavily," said Louis Massicotte, a political science professor at Laval University.

Experts say that Ms. Jean's quandary is unprecedented in Canadian history, yet still there are parallels from other countries to draw from, cautionary tales about symbolic heads of state who tried to stretch their job descriptions. While they do have a certain amount of discretion when governments are threatened, they have to act in the public's best interest of stable government.

Yet historians of the Westminster System -- a parliamentary-style government with a figurehead nominally in charge -- could bring up Sir John Kerr of Australia as an example of the office gone awry.

In 1975, Mr. Kerr, the Governor-General at the time, dismissed the government and replaced it with the opposition, which then called an election soon after. The set of events led to accusations of interventionism and collusion, precipitating to the greatest constitutional crisis in the country's history and Mr. Kerr's ostracism from political life.

Reports had rivals still bickering over the event, called the Dismissal, at his funeral in 1991.

In Ms. Jean's case, her major decision will mark a sharp departure from her typical duties, which are called royal prerogatives, usually performed at the prime minister's request. They include signing treaties, passport issuance, or the formal appointments of Cabinet ministers.

But then comes the new set of circumstances, in which the Liberals have tag-teamed with the New Democrats and the Bloc Québécois to form a coalition. In order to let them take power, Ms. Jean must gain assurances from this motley alliance that they plan to stay together for the long haul. Or else she could send Canadians back to the polls, or call off parliament for at least another month, which is what Prime Minister Harper might request.

If she rejects his request, she'd be flexing what is called her reserve of power.

"These are things that the governor-general or monarch can do without advice of prime minister," explained Ned Franks, a noted constitutional expert. "In other words, 99.99% of the time, the things a governor general does in a constitutional-legal sense is on advice of the prime minister. We're in 0.001% territory."

There are a few examples of the exercise of reserve power, mostly notably in 1979, when Prime Minister Joe Clark asked Ed Shreyer to dissolve parliament, and rather than instantly agreeing, the Governor General made the Tory leader wait for up to an hour until he gave his verdict.

No formal advising body guides the head of state to make these kinds of critical decisions.

When Adrienne Clarkson faced the possible fall of Paul Martin's government, she spoke to a range of legal experts. "She did a pretty thorough job of it," said Mr. Franks. "But now we get to Michaelle Jean, who was in Europe when all of this came up, and she has to decide by Monday on whatever has to be decided."

He added that the first person he'd call if he were in Ms. Jean's position would be her fellow CBC alumnus, Ms. Clarkson.

While the Privy Council might offer its services, Ms. Jean might also call on the constitutional experts, friends, or her predecessors for their confidential assistance. "She might call on her hairdresser. Louis XI of France said that the man whom he most trusted was his barber," said Ted McWhinney, who also advises other Westminister-style countries.

Mr. McWhinney cautioned, however, that she could not seek advice from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada, who acts as her deputy when is abroad. "The Chief Justice might have to rule in the event that a court case is established [against her]. So she's really in a bind."

He thinks that the role is "outdated," pointing out that other countries such as India and Ireland have done much to further democratize it.

Ireland, for example, directly elects its president, or titular head of state.

When asked if recent events might bring about change for Canada, however, he sounded a little less sanguine. "Maybe, but it will probably take 17 years."


It's all up to Governor General Michaelle Jean

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Stephen Harper is in a panic now that the Liberals and New Democrats have banded together with the Bloc Quebecois - doing the very thing Harper himself threatened Paul Martin with four years ago. The Conservatives have no plan in place and only now have decided to work to create a responsible budget for the future of our country in very uncertain times.


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He's NOT a Rebel ...no no no,
He's NOT a Rebel ...no no no, to me e-e-e-eee
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The absurdity is two parties with 106 combined seats wanting permission to replace a single party with 143 seats. There is an "agreement" with the Bloc.

If I'm the GG I deny this request. This coalition has no hope of success without the BQ. Either the Bloc is listed as an official member of the coalition with representation in Cabinet, or the coalition is not viable except in a nudge, nudge, wink, wink kind of way.

If Dion and Layton want to get in bed with the seperatists, they shouldn't be allowed to pretend its something else.

Oh, and Jag, please stop messaging the mods to try and have them delete my posts. I know how you despise free speech(unless its your own) but thats not how things work here. Cheers.

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The absurdity is two parties with 106 combined seats wanting permission to replace a single party with 143 seats. There is an "agreement" with the Bloc.

If I'm the GG I deny this request. This coalition has no hope of success without the BQ. Either the Bloc is listed as an official member of the coalition with representation in Cabinet, or the coalition is not viable except in a nudge, nudge, wink, wink kind of way.


It is two parties with the support of 2 other parties representing 63% of canadians representing 165 seats.

BTW - That first cartoon was cute!  :D
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Still having the mods censor my posts, eh Jag? You can say whatever you want, but nobody else can? Fucking pathetic.

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It's all up to the woman dubbed "Le petite Reine du Canada" (Canada's little Queen) to decide:

Do Harper's conservatives get thrown out, with the Liberals heading a coalition to form the new government?

Or will Canadians be forced to spend another $300 million dollars for another election nobody wants?

Methinks, we're getting a coalition headed by the Liberal Party of Canada.

BREAKING NEWS: ...Michaelle Jean has cut short her trip to Europe and is rushing back to Ottawa


The Liberals are taking over!
The Liberals are taking over!
Neener, neener, neeee-ner!



It's all up to this woman now





LMFAO!!! She just cockblocked your Liberal/NDP/Bloc Coalition! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

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this whole thing is bullshit.

so we have an election up here a few months back and voted the conservatives into power(yes a minority). but still the people spoke and said they wanted the conservatives in power. now the liberals and ndp are saying f*** you voters, your say doesnt count. its like were some 3rd world country where someone tries to overthrow the ruling government. pathetic.

and now who do they want to put in charge???? Dion. the man who just lead his party to its worst election result ever and is being forced to resign as party leader in the next few months. ya thats a good move.

yes i voted conservative... but i wouldnt care which party was in power. this shit isnt right. i thought canada was a democracy where "the people" vote/choose who they want to lead their country.



thats my rant. we'll see what happens at the end of january
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hilarious, the ole jagmeister got her ass owned by her own "petite princess" or whatever retarded nickname she goes by. typical liberal whiners. guess what, propping up the auto industry ain't gonna make people buy more cars, case you haven't heard there's a recession and no amount of money down a sinkhole is gonna fix it anytime soon

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LMFAO!!! She just cockblocked your Liberal/NDP/Bloc Coalition! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!



Sorry Tapper, I'm too busy crying my eyes out and licking my wounds to hear you laughing.
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this whole thing is bullshit.

so we have an election up here a few months back and voted the conservatives into power(yes a minority). but still the people spoke and said they wanted the conservatives in power. now the liberals and ndp are saying f*** you voters, your say doesnt count. its like were some 3rd world country where someone tries to overthrow the ruling government. pathetic.

and now who do they want to put in charge???? Dion. the man who just lead his party to its worst election result ever and is being forced to resign as party leader in the next few months. ya thats a good move.

yes i voted conservative... but i wouldnt care which party was in power. this shit isnt right. i thought canada was a democracy where "the people" vote/choose who they want to lead their country.


thats my rant. we'll see what happens at the end of january

Blinky in Canada's parliamentary democracy, a minority goverment governs only with the consent, approval and confidence of the people represented by their duly elected members of the house of commons. Harper has lost that. That is how he got to be PM in the first place by joining up with the Bloc, and the NDP to call a non-confidence vote.

When I get over my disappointment, I will realize that there is a silver lining in this cloud:

Harper and the entire Conservative caucus know they had better watch their asses and govern more to the centre. They get their do-over, and there no misunderstanding. They now know they need to take effective action to address Canada's economic needs or they will be toast. The opposition has had enough of their bully tactics and will fight back on behalf of the 63% of Canadians who DIDN'T vote for Harper's Conservatives.

If the Jan budget addresses the very real needs of Canada, the progressive parties get what we want for Canada, ...and the Conservatives can get away with excusing it to their base saying "we had to do this or the opposition would have toppled us." Either scenario is a win/ win for progressives who represent over 63% of Canadians. The really disgusting part is nothing is being done in the meantime, ...and for those Canadians losing jobs in the meantime, ...that's not a good thing. When the going gets tough...ACTION & LEADERSHIP is what is needed, not running away and hiding like a scared little child.
 
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Coalition Leaders Angry That Harper Has
Temporarily Won The Game of Survivor: Ottawa

Thursday December 4, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff

In the game of Survivor: Ottawa, Stephen Harper hasn't been voted off the island.

The judge in this high stakes political game of outwit, outplay and outlast was Governor General Michaelle Jean, who granted the Prime Minister's request to prorogue Parliament until January, in order to prevent a coalition of opposition parties from taking over in the House of Commons.

The other contestants in this drama can't say they're especially surprised by the outcome - no Governor General has ever refused such a request from a Prime Minister - but they are disappointed.

They believe Harper has lost the confidence of the House by not addressing the faltering economy, and is buying himself time to avoid an inevitable fate - the day his minority folds.

While Harper has pledged to "work together" with his foes, they're convinced this is a dark day in Canadian history.

"We must realize the enormity of what has happened here today," Liberal Leader Stephane Dion responds. "For the first time in the history of Canada, the prime minister of Canada is running away from the Parliament of Canada."

NDP chief Jack Layton accuses the Conservative leader of establishing an Iron Curtain around the nation's capital. "What he's doing right now is trying to lock the door of Parliament so that the elected people cannot speak and cannot throw him out of office, so he can protect his job," he charges. "And now he's coming forward with an element of contrition, and saying 'well, maybe now I'll listen to you.' Well, I don't think Canadians trust him."

As to the offer of working together, Layton insists the coalition is just delayed - not dead. "If he brings forward some interesting ideas in the weeks to come, we can take those good ideas and adopt them as part of the coalition government."

The Bloc Quebecois's Gilles Duceppe, whose presence in the alliance deal has upset Conservatives and many voters, calls Jean's ruling an 'immoral decision.' "We don't believe him," he fumes. "We don't have confidence in him."

The opposition may have to take a month off and lick their wounds, denied the expected confidence vote that had been expected for next Monday. But while they're down for now, they're not out. Harper has pledged to bring forth an early budget when what's sure to be a raucous Parliament finally returns on January 26th.

Budgets are traditionally matters of confidence and the opposition will still get their chance to vote him off the island when the Survivor: Parliament reality show returns without an immunity challenge early in the new year.
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hhahaha oh Judi...I see you are still posting about Canadian politics on a bodybuilding msg board.....oh brother...


so whats new and exciting? (other than this nonsense?)

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Blinky in Canada's parliamentary democracy, a minority goverment governs only with the consent, approval and confidence of the people represented by their duly elected members of the house of commons. Harper has lost that. That is how he got to be PM in the first place by joining up with the Bloc, and the NDP to call a non-confidence vote.

When I get over my disappointment, I will realize that there is a silver lining in this cloud:

Harper and the entire Conservative caucus know they had better watch their asses and govern more to the centre. They get their do-over, and there no misunderstanding. They now know they need to take effective action to address Canada's economic needs or they will be toast. The opposition has had enough of their bully tactics and will fight back on behalf of the 63% of Canadians who DIDN'T vote for Harper's Conservatives.

If the Jan budget addresses the very real needs of Canada, the progressive parties get what we want for Canada, ...and the Conservatives can get away with excusing it to their base saying "we had to do this or the opposition would have toppled us." Either scenario is a win/ win for progressives who represent over 63% of Canadians. The really disgusting part is nothing is being done in the meantime, ...and for those Canadians losing jobs in the meantime, ...that's not a good thing. When the going gets tough...ACTION & LEADERSHIP is what is needed, not running away and hiding like a scared little child.
 

ya i get how our weird system works...but i dont agree with it. and i think if the opposition actually cared about "canadians" and their vote, they wouldnt pull this shit. they would try and find a more reasonable way to deal with the fact that they lost the election. cause that what this is really about. they(liberals & ndp) are saying that they are doing this cause of what harper has/hasnt done over the last few weeks. but they have been planning this "take over" since the election.

as for the 'running away and hiding'..... i dont know much about it but apparently the GG thinks its a good idea. and if youre watching the news today it seems like it might be the right thing. there are liberals coming out now saying that they dont agree with the coalition and even a couple criticizing Dion publicly and saying he should be gone now. obviously there is some disagreement amongst themselves about this coalition. time away might be good.


and on a side note and not as important(but i do find funny). did u see Dion's recorded speech yesterday after Harpers? it was a joke...HAHA
he looked nervous throughout the whole thing and it looked like he filmed it at his moms house infront of one of her bookshelves. plus took more than an hour to get it to air. even many from his party said it was inexcusable. this man should not be leading canada for any length of time
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ya i get how our weird system works...but i dont agree with it. and i think if the opposition actually cared about "canadians" and their vote, they wouldnt pull this shit. they would try and find a more reasonable way to deal with the fact that they lost the election. cause that what this is really about. they(liberals & ndp) are saying that they are doing this cause of what harper has/hasnt done over the last few weeks. but they have been planning this "take over" since the election.

as for the 'running away and hiding'..... i dont know much about it but apparently the GG thinks its a good idea. and if youre watching the news today it seems like it might be the right thing. there are liberals coming out now saying that they dont agree with the coalition and even a couple criticizing Dion publicly and saying he should be gone now. obviously there is some disagreement amongst themselves about this coalition. time away might be good.


and on a side note and not as important(but i do find funny). did u see Dion's recorded speech yesterday after Harpers? it was a joke...HAHA
he looked nervous throughout the whole thing and it looked like he filmed it at his moms house infront of one of her bookshelves. plus took more than an hour to get it to air. even many from his party said it was inexcusable. this man should not be leading canada for any length of time

All good points...it's ridiculous and disgraceful...The liberals have the worst showing in the history of their party and this is the only thing they have left.  I know in the end it will backfire....how can you co-exist with another party that promotes seperatism and a communist Jack Layton?

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I know in the end it will backfire....how can you co-exist with another party that promotes seperatism and a communist Jack Layton?

The very fact that such a coalition could even form is indicative of just how badly Harper has screwed up.
And it will backfire. As more and more Canadians realize what Harper has done in shutting down Parliament in order to avoid a vote. Harper has made every contentious proposal one of non-confidence in order to ram it through. Well, ...now he wants to wimp out, suspend parliament and not have the vote, ...it will backfire, ...on the Conservatives. All he has done is potentially stalled the inevitable, ...while threatened Canadians sit in limbo.

When a patient is sick and in need of medical attention, a physician needs to act, ...not sit around and do nothing for 2 months hoping the patient doesn't die in the meantime. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, ...but Harper isn't even offereing any treatment, let alone a cure. Canada, and Canadians are in a uniquely advantageous position to weather the economic storm, ...provided ACTION is taken NOW! not 2 months from now.

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Unions Infuriated By Governor General's
Conservative Lifeline

Thursday December 4, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff



They heard about the decision from Ottawa and they hung their heads. 

But it wasn't members of the Opposition parties thinking about what might have been.

These were reps from the major labour unions, who now fear what will become of their members as the economy and their job prospects take a dive and the government takes a holiday.

The news that the Governor General had agreed to prorogue Parliament for seven weeks may have put smiles on the faces of Conservatives, but for those seeking aid to the rapidly melting auto industry, it was the worst result possible.

They accuse Harper of not caring about the industry and the thousands of jobs associated with it. And they were desperate for the coalition to win, after the three leaders promised immediate help.

"Quite frankly, this prime minister has given those communities and our workers, their members, the back of the hat," gripes Dave Coles of the Communications, Energy and Paper Workers.

Ken Lewenza of the Canadian Auto Workers bowed his head in disappointment (top left) after learning of the announcement. "I think it's a very sad day for democracy in Canada," he proclaims, the pain evident on his face.

"I would say to the Governor-General today with the greatest amount of respect, that you made a very poor decision on behalf of Canadians," Coles chides. 

The Tories are expected to hand down a budget in late January, but the union leaders say that's far too late for many of their workers.

Still, there was some good news for a few in the industry Thursday. Toyota opened its new plant in Woodstock, complete with dignitaries from the home office in Japan, Premier Dalton McGuinty and Federal Industry Minister Tony Clement - but not the Prime Minister, who was getting his request answered in Ottawa.

It's one of the few bright spots for autoworkers, with 1,200 new jobs and hundreds of other spin-off positions created as a result of the plant's presence. 
 
But experts concede it's the rare silver lining in an automotive sky filled with clouds. "Unions had their peak employment at 1.6 million workers," reveals industry analyst Dennis Desrosiers. "And today it's under 400,000. So unions are going the way of the dodo bird."

But it's the Conservatives who the unions want to see extinct. Thanks to what happened at Rideau Hall on Thursday, that's not going to happen - at least for the next month.




The last few seconds of audio in that clip were cut off. Jack Layton says:
"I cannot have confidence in a Prime Minister that would throw the locks on the door
of this place, ...knowing that he is about to lose a vote in the house of commons"
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On the bright side, ...this crisis for workers can spell opportunity for others.
There'll be alot of people looking for a 'Plan B', ...and there are those of us in a position to give it to them. 
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The very fact that such a coalition could even form is indicative of just how badly Harper has screwed up.
And it will backfire. As more and more Canadians realize what Harper has done in shutting down Parliament in order to avoid a vote. Harper has made every contentious proposal one of non-confidence in order to ram it through. Well, ...now he wants to wimp out, suspend parliament and not have the vote, ...it will backfire, ...on the Conservatives. All he has done is potentially stalled the inevitable, ...while threatened Canadians sit in limbo.



you actually think the voters will be more upset with Harper(conservatives) for suspending parliment a few weeks early than they will be with the liberals and ndp for pulling this shit??
think again. look at the results of the polls that have just come out.

44% said they would still want harper...which is up from 37% at the election
liberals 24% down from 26%...... and the ndp at 14% down from 18%

...it will backfire, ...on the Conservatives.

looks like its backfiring on the liberals and ndp

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/04/parliament-poll.html
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The very fact that such a coalition could even form is indicative of just how badly Harper has screwed up.
And it will backfire. As more and more Canadians realize what Harper has done in shutting down Parliament in order to avoid a vote. Harper has made every contentious proposal one of non-confidence in order to ram it through. Well, ...now he wants to wimp out, suspend parliament and not have the vote, ...it will backfire, ...on the Conservatives. All he has done is potentially stalled the inevitable, ...while threatened Canadians sit in limbo.

When a patient is sick and in need of medical attention, a physician needs to act, ...not sit around and do nothing for 2 months hoping the patient doesn't die in the meantime. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, ...but Harper isn't even offereing any treatment, let alone a cure. Canada, and Canadians are in a uniquely advantageous position to weather the economic storm, ...provided ACTION is taken NOW! not 2 months from now.

Chyros time is better than Chronos time.

Judi, maybe I'm way off here...but I'm beginning to think you are still a little bitter about the who Canadians chose to be their prime minister?