The Breakdown of Anabolic Users...

[Arnold jr]

I know you're much more in the know with the pros than most here, but I can't honestly believe that he's being 100% honest.

Secondly, if he cruises on 2g's a week, what does he bulk on?

OK, here's his breakdown.

He used to bulk at 3g/wk and cruise at 2g/wk

Now he cruises at 1g/wk and takes 2g/wk when needed in the off-season

[Emmortal]

OK, here's his breakdown.

He used to bulk at 3g/wk and cruise at 2g/wk

Now he cruises at 1g/wk and takes 2g/wk when needed in the off-season

Sounds reasonable.  After you brought that up I talked to a few guys I know and they said pretty similar amounts.  Although they are IFFB pros, they aren't at the very top level but were taking close to that.

[tbombz]

OK, here's his breakdown.

He used to bulk at 3g/wk and cruise at 2g/wk

Now he cruises at 1g/wk and takes 2g/wk when needed in the off-season

thats just AAS what about slin gh igf prostaglandins thyroid ancilliries CREATINE ?? lmao

[Arnold jr]

thats just AAS what about slin gh igf prostaglandins thyroid ancilliries CREATINE ?? lmao

No, that's just test

[tbombz]

No, that's just test

so what else do you hear about these guys using ? 

[DIVISION]

If I'm not mistaken Lee was kind of full of shit when it comes to AAS useage...however, he's more honest then most. I find it hard to believe that he only uses a little winny, clen, & nolva during contest prep & a shot or two of Deca in the off season.

Lee didn't get that kind of mass on Winsrol and GH.....

I don't think he'd ever be truly honest about that kind of thing.

All of this conjecture really doesn't mean much.



DIV

[Arnold jr]

so what else do you hear about these guys using ? 

I have talked about GH and slin with some of them...obviously since I mentioned that in the beginning. My point with that, a lot of them even though they did use slin in the beginning, many of them stop once they reach a certain point. GH, yes they use it, several of them in the 8-10iu/ed. Some much higher, much higher, but not as many as some seem to think.

Other drugs, haven't really talked about it that much. Did have a conversation with one of the last 3 Olympia winners about what he took for contest prep...there was nothing magical about it. Just the same things everyone uses, i.e. tren, winny, thyroid meds, etc.

[jtsunami]

I have talked about GH and slin with some of them...obviously since I mentioned that in the beginning. My point with that, a lot of them even though they did use slin in the beginning, many of them stop once they reach a certain point. GH, yes they use it, several of them in the 8-10iu/ed. Some much higher, much higher, but not as many as some seem to think.

Other drugs, haven't really talked about it that much. Did have a conversation with one of the last 3 Olympia winners about what he took for contest prep...there was nothing magical about it. Just the same things everyone uses, i.e. tren, winny, thyroid meds, etc.

Arnold thank you for sharing this information, we are lucky to have you on this board and willing to write great posts.

jt

[DIVISION]

I have talked about GH and slin with some of them...obviously since I mentioned that in the beginning. My point with that, a lot of them even though they did use slin in the beginning, many of them stop once they reach a certain point. GH, yes they use it, several of them in the 8-10iu/ed. Some much higher, much higher, but not as many as some seem to think.

Other drugs, haven't really talked about it that much. Did have a conversation with one of the last 3 Olympia winners about what he took for contest prep...there was nothing magical about it. Just the same things everyone uses, i.e. tren, winny, thyroid meds, etc.

It's too bad these guys aren't completely honest with you.

That would really open alot of eyes.

If a guy like Lee Priest told kids what he really used, alot of eyes would be opened and some pro aspirations would be crushed.


DIV

[tstmaniac]

It's too bad these guys aren't completely honest with you.

That would really open alot of eyes.

If a guy like Lee Priest told kids what he really used, alot of eyes would be opened and some pro aspirations would be crushed.


DIV

i dont care how good someones genetics are...your not going to get to that level with winny,clen, and nolva! laughing my ass off people would believe that!

[Arnold jr]

It's too bad these guys aren't completely honest with you.

That would really open alot of eyes.

If a guy like Lee Priest told kids what he really used, alot of eyes would be opened and some pro aspirations would be crushed.


DIV

Serious question...what have I mentioned that leads you to believe they aren't being honest?

[DIVISION]

Serious question...what have I mentioned that leads you to believe they aren't being honest?

I just have a deep skepticism that the heavy hitters are going to reveal real world dosages.

Shit, Priest won't even give out Pro-Lab t-shirts when kids ask so why would he reveal anything about his personal life?



DIV

[tstmaniac]

div what dose do you think the pros are taking with tren ace?

[Alex23]

Lee didn't get that kind of mass on Winsrol and GH.....

I don't think he'd ever be truly honest about that kind of thing.

All of this conjecture really doesn't mean much.



DIV

I don't think you truly honest either; you claim cycling yea 'round but you don't have the physique to show for.

Me on the other hand get endlessly grilled about non usage, yet roll natural....

who's lying bro?

[Arnold jr]

I just have a deep skepticism that the heavy hitters are going to reveal real world dosages.

Shit, Priest won't even give out Pro-Lab t-shirts when kids ask so why would he reveal anything about his personal life?



DIV

They have no reason to lie to me. Second and this being the most important aspect, I've witnessed some of their usage first hand...not sure how best to describe what I'm getting at without saying the wrong thing.

[DIVISION]

They have no reason to lie to me. Second and this being the most important aspect, I've witnessed some of their usage first hand...not sure how best to describe what I'm getting at without saying the wrong thing.

Sure they do.

Why would they tell you their actual dosages if there's nothing in it for them?

I'm not asking you for details because I really don't care what pro bodybuilders do, but unless you're paying them or compensating them in some way I don't see why they'd talk to you at all.

I don't think you truly honest either; you claim cycling yea 'round but you don't have the physique to show for.

Me on the other hand get endlessly grilled about non usage, yet roll natural....

who's lying bro?

Considering the fact that you've only seen one or two pics of me from vacation a couple years ago, I'm not sure you can vouch for what I look like.

That, plus I'm a strength athlete, not a bodybuilder.........huge difference.

I don't have much doubt that I lift more than most, you included, young Alex.

Your mouth gets you in to more trouble than anything else, that's how you roll.

For someone who claims to be all-natural you sure seem to bring alot of attention to yourself.

I'm very unnatural, but I don't see why that's a big deal.

The Darkside called.........and I listened.


DIV

[Alex23]

Why did you delete my post you coward fraud?

You are a fraud; prove us you walk to walk or shut your pie hole.

HHAHAA "dark side", what is that a star trek convention?

I'm natural and bigger than you ever will; why would you juice and look like you do?

[DIVISION]

Why did you delete my post you coward fraud?

You are a fraud; prove us you walk to walk or shut your pie hole.

HHAHAA "dark side", what is that a star trek convention?

I'm natural and bigger than you ever will; why would you juice and look like you do?

You're a joke who doesn't even post here.

Don't you belong back on the Gossip forum?

For someone who claims to be natural you don't know anything about AAS.

You have no basis for even being here, other than to call out people who DO use and who are stronger than you.

I delete you because you have no reason to be here, you don't use and you don't know anything that would contribute to the forum.

Is that enough?   



DIV

[jtsunami]

Alex your out of line, he needs a timeout from this board to respect the moderators.

jt

[WillGrant]

You're a joke who doesn't even post here.

Don't you belong back on the Gossip forum?

For someone who claims to be natural you don't know anything about AAS.

You have no basis for even being here, other than to call out people who DO use and who are stronger than you.

I delete you because you have no reason to be here, you don't use and you don't know anything that would contribute to the forum.

Is that enough?   



DIV

Why is Tbomz alowed to post here?

[MuscleMcMannus]

Why is Tbomz alowed to post here?

LOL. 

[tbombz]

LOL. 

...boom

  If you're going to try to sound like you know what you are talking about try to use terms that sound intelligent.... Class I vs. Class II. 

 

[Alex23]

You're a joke who doesn't even post here.

Don't you belong back on the Gossip forum?

For someone who claims to be natural you don't know anything about AAS.

You have no basis for even being here, other than to call out people who DO use and who are stronger than you.

I delete you because you have no reason to be here, you don't use and you don't know anything that would contribute to the forum.

Is that enough?  



DIV

So I need to shoot myself in the ass to post on here?

[Captain Equipoise]

You're so wrong I don't know where to start....

On Gaspari... was healthier than you probably are. He likes droll a lot pre-contest which was his only vice.. many said his intensity was unreal and almost impossible to follow; you don't achieve that "unhealthily"...

Arnold was known to dbol in the 400mg range. IF that's not megadose, what is?

Lee tried GH once and didn't see the point other than being able to eat shit and still look good.

LOLOLOL!!!!! lay off the crack pipe dude, stick to the G&O you're better suited for it.  Most people use dbol in the 30-50mg a day range, considering Arnold was using properly dosed CIBA manufactured LEGIT dbol, I find it hard to believe he could possibly have gone over 80mg a day... let alone 5 times that.

[WillGrant]

LOLOLOL!!!!! lay off the crack pipe dude, stick to the G&O you're better suited for it.  Most people use dbol in the 30-50mg a day range, considering Arnold was using properly dosed CIBA manufactured LEGIT dbol, I find it hard to believe he could possibly have gone over 80mg a day... let alone 5 times that.

They were dosed at 5mg a tab were they not?