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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2008, 08:49:32 AM »
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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2008, 08:55:37 AM »
It's called being realistic, and not making it into something it's not...

My efforts have been to make it more appealing to those IN our industry...not to try and force it down people's throats that have no interest anyway...

Well Chick,

Here is the deal. Bodybuilding only appeals to the ones that are in the sport. People out of the sport just look at bodybuilders as meat heads that have no other ambition in life. They can't believe someone would do that to their body's, just like women that get too much plastic surgery. I remember watching VH1 about 2 years ago, there was a program about video's on the internet. One such video was of your buddy Kamali Pop a lockin in stage. The host called him a greased up monkey. I hate to say it, but people outside of the bodybuilding community has those types of sentiments but I am sure you already knew this. I say to those that think Bodybuilding is stupid, if you don't like it don't look but don't criticize. You know....

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2008, 08:57:19 AM »
It's called being realistic, and not making it into something it's not...

My efforts have been to make it more appealing to those IN our industry...not to try and force it down people's throats that have no interest anyway...
bodybuilding has effected every sport in the world chick, with its cutting edge nutrition, strength (early days when the 2 were more linked), and hypertrophy techniques.

it has the appeal, even to mainstream public.

joe and jane public are mostly obese, bodybuilding can lead the way in a new health and fitness revolution now more than ever ( like it has in the past) if marketed correctly.

to me bodybuilding is about perfect physiques, joe and jane public looks at bodybuilders and fitness girls with envy and awe. i think what puts them off is this genetics myth, the thought that they can and will never look like the beautiful people no matter what they do.

if we can change that perception, then the appeal of bodybuilding can and will change. 8)

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2008, 08:58:58 AM »
bodybuilding has effected every sport in the world chick, with its cutting edge nutrition, strength (early days when the 2 were more linked), and hypertrophy techniques.

it has the appeal, even to mainstream public.

joe and jane public are mostly obese, bodybuilding can lead the way in a new health and fitness revolution now more than ever ( like it has in the past) if marketed correctly.

to me bodybuilding is about perfect physiques, joe and jane public looks at bodybuilders and fitness girls with envy and awe. i think what puts them off is this genetics myth, the thought that they can and will never look like the beautiful people no matter what they do.

if we can change that perception, then the appeal of bodybuilding can and will change. 8)



Nope... Joe and Jane could care less about bodybuilding.

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2008, 09:22:34 AM »
How do we turn the sport all of us athletes love from a niche sport into one more mainstream?


1. Enforce the rules

2. Fine, suspend or ban anyone from competing for a period of time (1-2 years) for not representing the industry (because it's not a sport) in a professional mannor or a positive light (no G4P, felons, etc,etc,etc) and this includes the powers that be.

3. If you want mainstream then follow the models of professional sports leagues. If you want to keep seeing go to shit, keep it the way it is.



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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2008, 09:40:14 AM »
Nope... Joe and Jane could care less about bodybuilding.

wrong, joe and jane public do not want to be fat, they want to be like the dude with the 6 pack and girl with the tight ass.

bodybuilding can show them how.
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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2008, 09:55:38 AM »
Natural (in a gh15 sense of the word) is the future. Meaning: "Clean" fitness bodies that Joe and Jane believe they can get naturally, no obvious steroid abuse. Next thing, these new bodybuilders should show people how to live a healthy lifestyle and they should do other sports for the camera as well to create the image of athletes.

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2008, 09:58:57 AM »
Well Chick,

Here is the deal. Bodybuilding only appeals to the ones that are in the sport. People out of the sport just look at bodybuilders as meat heads that have no other ambition in life. They can't believe someone would do that to their body's, just like women that get too much plastic surgery. I remember watching VH1 about 2 years ago, there was a program about video's on the internet. One such video was of your buddy Kamali Pop a lockin in stage. The host called him a greased up monkey. I hate to say it, but people outside of the bodybuilding community has those types of sentiments but I am sure you already knew this. I say to those that think Bodybuilding is stupid, if you don't like it don't look but don't criticize. You know....
lol i remember that. It was called "internet worst videos" or something like that right?
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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2008, 10:00:40 AM »
only one talking sence is chick,,,,,,,,,,,, no one will ever care about bodybuilding other than bodybuilders!

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2008, 10:05:54 AM »
flying is only for the birds - then came the wright brothers.

men will never walk on the moon - then came nasa and neil armstrong.

bodybuilders will never be bigger than arnold - then came dorian, ronnie, ruhl, etc

bodybuilding will never be mainstream - then...................  ;)


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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2008, 10:16:40 AM »
How do we turn the sport all of us athletes love from a niche sport into one more mainstream?


It will never be MAINSTREAM and why would anyone want it to be MAINSTREAM?

How many times will someone want to look at bodybuilders/bodybuilding? The Miss America pageant is DEAD because of a lack of interest from the public at large because of the bordem of just watching women parade around on teh stage doing essentially nothing. As it stands anything that is not associated with a action or display of talent will cause the public to turn away from it in time. Pro BB would have to be turned into a strongman, wrestling type of event in order to hold a audience. Just watching men in posing trunks on a stage is NOT going to cut it. Speaking of strongman events ..even WSM contests don't draw the kinds of crowds a mainstream sport does, because the population that follows it is relatively small and doesn't warrant investing in the infrastructure to make it MAINSTREAM. Soccer is more popular in the world than baseball or football or basketball, but in america it is second rate at best...therefore not worthy to invest in...too small a viewing audience.
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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2008, 10:22:05 AM »
How can a sport that has a substantial gay audience ever be "mainstream" in America.

Don't be fooled, this country still has strong conservative roots

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2008, 10:41:37 AM »
How can a sport that has a substantial gay audience ever be "mainstream" in America.

Don't be fooled, this country still has strong conservative roots

it should be bombed back to the stone ages.

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2008, 10:43:16 AM »
then why it was popular in arnolds time? id imagine it was because he was tall charismatic and white and still looked like a human despite the shitload of muscles?

 BB has NEVER been popular and has never had a large viewing audience.... adding the RETARDED, PASTY FACED NAZI LOVING FREAK named arnold did NOTHING for BB. All the BEST BB were and still are BLACK and are the main draw in BB..no one has been more CHARISMATIC and APPEALING than the Black Bodybuilders. So far as looking HUMAN...That REPTILE should have been visiting those 90210 Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeons AS SOON AS HE ARRIVED IN AMERICA....
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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2008, 10:44:55 AM »
BB has NEVER been popular and has never had a large viewing audience.... adding the RETARDED, PASTY FACED NAZI LOVING FREAK named arnold did NOTHING for BB. All the BEST BB were and still are BLACK and are the main draw in BB..no one has been more CHARISMATIC and APPEALING than the Black Bodybuilders. So far as looking HUMAN...That REPTILE should have been visiting those 90210 Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeons AS SOON AS HE ARRIVED IN AMERICA....
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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2008, 10:45:06 AM »
it should be bombed back to the stone ages.

only certain parts like Arkansas and Virginia .........all of Florida except Miami

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2008, 10:48:40 AM »
BB has NEVER been popular and has never had a large viewing audience.... adding the RETARDED, PASTY FACED NAZI LOVING FREAK named arnold did NOTHING for BB. All the BEST BB were and still are BLACK and are the main draw in BB..no one has been more CHARISMATIC and APPEALING than the Black Bodybuilders. So far as looking HUMAN...That REPTILE should have been visiting those 90210 Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeons AS SOON AS HE ARRIVED IN AMERICA....

Hahahahaha!!!!...meltdown!!

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2008, 11:08:25 AM »
Two words gentlemen....More cowbell !

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2008, 11:13:39 AM »
How do we turn the sport all of us athletes love from a niche sport into one more mainstream?



Is that what we really want ?              I don't.

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2008, 12:13:14 PM »
chick, i have do disgree with you ideas and reasonin..and question ur ability to represent the athletes...i happen to agree with alot of what you have to say most of the time but not this one..let me see what you think about this.....there are far more bodybuilding enthusiats than ucf fighters, bowling, swimmmers, blah blah blah...EVERYONE works out....Joe weider said it himself once, everyone is a bodybuilder..that alot itself is an opportunity not only to grow but to develop....and especially in America..AMERICA IS FAT...I was watchin a show last night on msnbc on the growth of the UFC..they went from marketing blood and guts, to hardcoreness...althought the gov wanted to ban it, the more the gov wanted to ban it, the more people wanted to watch it....DANA white spends money out if own pocket to send athletes to be seen places, pay charaties, and create an ability to make a bunch of men hug themselves entrataining...its only growing...there is enough marketing involved and good enough athletes out there to make it interesting...posing routines have to be better, more matchups (kamali vv. craig is what origanilly got me into bodybuilding)...ect...if shows like THE HILLS, REDNECK OLYMPICS, SEARCH FOR HELEN HUNT OR SUM BULL SHIT, ALL THE OTHER CRAP FOCUSED OF THE LIBERAL AREA OF THE COUNTRY..why cant bodybuilding

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2008, 01:44:59 PM »
If you can turn homosexual prostitution mainstream then bodybuilding will surely follow.

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2008, 02:49:58 PM »
I think moving away from awarding pure mass over aesthetics is a big step in helping bodybuilding to become more mainstream.  Although that alone won't do the trick I think it definitely helps.  There is a better chance of the mainstream individual admiring and following those type of athletes than the pure mass monsters.  The thing that I feel will do the most for our sport is to have new dynamic personalities like that of Arnold.  Individuals with the type of charisma, self confidence and style of Arnold will go a long way in moving our sport towards the mainstream. When that will happen? Your guess is as good as mine.

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2008, 03:07:47 PM »
No normal person is going to come one one hundered miles of Pro Bodybuilding - the public perception is just a bunch of freaks injecting a shit load of drugs - The average person does not want to be 250lb, veins sticking out everywhere -  Just us freaks on here! Always will be a minority sport, and the sooner pro bb understands this the better for us all.

And that is the truth, Amen.

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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2008, 03:13:01 PM »
Hahahahaha!!!!...meltdown!!

NO MELTDOWN...I AM JUST THROWING THE FACTS DOWN....

Like all other sports if the Blacks were not a part of it the sport would have long died. Basketball, Baseball, Football, Track and Field, now Tennis, Golf(boring ass shit), Bodybuilding(even though it is a much smaller sport) etc etc all became MONSTER SPORTS ONCE BLACKS BECAME INVOLVED...Don't hate MF just RECOGNIZE.....
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Re: Turning bodybuilding mainstream
« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2008, 03:14:50 PM »
NO MELTDOWN...I AM JUST THROWING THE FACTS DOWN....

Like all other sports if the Blacks were not a part of it the sport would have long died. Basketball, Baseball, Football, Track and Field, now Tennis, Golf(boring ass shit), Bodybuilding(even though it is a much smaller sport) etc etc all became MONSTER SPORTS ONCE BLACKS BECAME INVOLVED...Don't hate MF just RECOGNIZE.....

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