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Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« on: December 05, 2008, 07:45:39 AM »
Concerns over immigration and security have prompted the US government to erect more than 1,000km of fencing along the Mexican border.
But the contentious plan which cuts through private property in some areas has sparked anger among some US homeowners and farmers.
Al Jazeera's Nick Spicer reports from Brownsville, Texas, along the Mexican border.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 08:28:29 AM »
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Alas, instead of attempting to learn something new we stay glued to FOX News and avoid everything else.  ::)

 Why learn something new about the world regardless of the source given the dearth of international news coverage in the U.S.? No wonder you are so stupid.
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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 08:55:14 AM »
So these mexicans think the US should keep the border open for the invading criminals just so they can graze 3 cows on desert land?

C'mon now leftys, lets keep it believable at least....  This is just pathetic.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 08:55:59 AM »
It's hard to do anything big without pissing someone off.  

But the fence IS needed

so though titties  >:( ;D

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 08:57:13 AM »
Tough titties?   :D

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 09:21:30 AM »
It's hard to do anything big without pissing someone off.  

But the fence IS needed

so though titties  >:( ;D
Why?

Is there no ladder out there that can't defeat it?

It's a waste of money b/c it will do nothing to address the problem.

It's like building an animal barn and putting no door on it.

It's a political move designed to appeal to a segment of society to show them something is being done.

It doesn't matter how irrational or foolish that something is, something is being done.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 09:22:12 AM »
It's hard to do anything big without pissing someone off. 
But the fence IS needed

so though titties  >:( ;D
very true

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2008, 09:23:21 AM »
Why?

Is there no ladder out there that can't defeat it?

It's a waste of money b/c it will do nothing to address the problem.

It's like building an animal barn and putting no door on it.

It's a political move designed to appeal to a segment of society to show them something is being done.

It doesn't matter how irrational or foolish that something is, something is being done.
you lock your doors at night dont you decker even though ppl could kick them in...it will deter ppl from entering the country yes ppl will still get in but less ppl.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2008, 09:24:46 AM »
Why?

Is there no ladder out there that can't defeat it?

It's a waste of money b/c it will do nothing to address the problem.

It's like building an animal barn and putting no door on it.

It's a political move designed to appeal to a segment of society to show them something is being done.

It doesn't matter how irrational or foolish that something is, something is being done.


They can't build a fence with a monitoring system?  I think they can.  

A fence serves the same purpose as a lock on your front door.  It's a deterrent and something that makes it more difficult for someone to rob you.  Will it stop people 100%?  Of course not.  Will it add another protective layer?  I think so.  Is asking questions and then answering them kind of stupid?  yes.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2008, 09:28:04 AM »
you lock your doors at night dont you decker even though ppl could kick them in...it will deter ppl from entering the country yes ppl will still get in but less ppl.
Keep on hoping.  I'd like to see any estimates of its efficacy.  I hate it when alarmists in the government make foolish decisions like this one.

Doesn't the fence cover only 1/3 of the border?  

How on earth would illegals get around that?   I'd guess they'd just travel around the barrier instead of putting in the effort to get a fuckin ladder.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 10:22:08 AM »
The point is that our boarder must be protected, however that is accomplished.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2008, 10:25:57 AM »
Keep on hoping.  I'd like to see any estimates of its efficacy.  I hate it when alarmists in the government make foolish decisions like this one.

Doesn't the fence cover only 1/3 of the border?  

How on earth would illegals get around that?   I'd guess they'd just travel around the barrier instead of putting in the effort to get a fuckin ladder.

You are being negative.   ;)

Spending money on a fence is far better than spending money and lives on "Iraqi freedom"

PS, Do you leave your door unlocked everyday when you leave your home? (assuming no one is left home)

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2008, 10:33:36 AM »
The point is that our boarder must be protected, however that is accomplished.
Even if it means taking irrational, futile and wholly ineffectual steps to 'secure the border?'

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

I guess that's just sloganeering.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2008, 10:35:09 AM »
You are being negative.   ;)

Spending money on a fence is far better than spending money and lives on "Iraqi freedom"

PS, Do you leave your door unlocked everyday when you leave your home? (assuming no one is left home)
To me, they are both stupid expenditures. 

The Iraq expenditures are worse b/c people are dying from what those payments are funding.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2008, 10:36:25 AM »
Even if it means taking irrational, futile and wholly ineffectual steps to 'secure the border?'

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

I guess that's just sloganeering.

We are a nation of laws.  There are legal means to become a US citizen and those huddled masses are expected to follow them.  Are you suggesting we become a nation of anarchy and chaos?

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2008, 11:07:20 AM »
So these mexicans think the US should keep the border open for the invading criminals just so they can graze 3 cows on desert land?

C'mon now leftys, lets keep it believable at least....  This is just pathetic.

Mate, it doesn't matter if there is a fence or not; they will get in one way or another.
I hate the State.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2008, 11:10:36 AM »
Damn Decker I guess you have never actually seen a borer fence, it's not the same fence you have at home.

It have electronics embedded into it (is someone touch it it reports), watch towers, a road for patrols, several layers of very high metal fence with barbed wire and more.

These people are illegal immigrants not terrorists, a fence like that will stop most of them with ease.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2008, 11:21:54 AM »
It's hard to do anything big without pissing someone off.  

But the fence IS needed

so though titties  >:( ;D

We need a fence like the once between Israel & Syria.

Illegals need to be deported asap.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2008, 11:23:40 AM »
Why?

Is there no ladder out there that can't defeat it?

It's a waste of money b/c it will do nothing to address the problem.

It's like building an animal barn and putting no door on it.

It's a political move designed to appeal to a segment of society to show them something is being done.

It doesn't matter how irrational or foolish that something is, something is being done.

Pure rubbish.  In the San Diego sector they said illegal crossings are down 90% since the fence went up.

Additionally, if you simply ended all welfare to illegals and notified ICE every time one of these invaders entered an emergency room, they would self deport. 

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2008, 11:26:14 AM »
Damn Decker I guess you have never actually seen a borer fence, it's not the same fence you have at home.

It have electronics embedded into it (is someone touch it it reports), watch towers, a road for patrols, several layers of very high metal fence with barbed wire and more.

These people are illegal immigrants not terrorists, a fence like that will stop most of them with ease.
It's a triple layer magic fence extending 700 miles on a 2000 mile border.

Do I have to point out the problem with that?

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2008, 11:26:53 AM »
We are a nation of laws.  There are legal means to become a US citizen and those huddled masses are expected to follow them.  Are you suggesting we become a nation of anarchy and chaos?
No.  I'm suggesting that the 700 mile fence for a 2000 mile border is a stupid idea.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2008, 11:27:11 AM »
I do not understand the resistance to protect our borders.

Well, there should be some kind of protection, whether it be natural impassible terrain, fence, electronic fence/sensors, towers...whatever.  Your right, protecting part of the border is less effective than protecting the whole border.

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2008, 11:27:30 AM »
Pure rubbish.  In the San Diego sector they said illegal crossings are down 90% since the fence went up.

Additionally, if you simply ended all welfare to illegals and notified ICE every time one of these invaders entered an emergency room, they would self deport. 
90%.  How do you know this?

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Re: Americans angry over US-Mexico border fence
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2008, 11:28:36 AM »
I do not understand the resistance to protect our borders.
It's a problem that needs addressing.  Building fences won't cut it.  It's not that big of a problem though.