Why Coleman At A Large Bodyweight Is Shit.

[NarcissisticDeity]

bigger? Maybe. Dorian was 10 lbs heavier which is not much. Ronnie's smaller joints and narrower waist give the illusion of added size compared to Dorian's blocky structure.

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

show me where Peter McGough explicitly says 01 ASC Ronnie never matched Dorian's conditioning. He only says nobody achieved the same level of hardness and dryness. Furthermore, since you believe what Peter says, then you concede that he's right about Ronnie having the best back of all-time.

Peter McGough - Flex, December 2006

"The best back ever lacked its eye-popping detail and fullness." (in reference to Ronnie at the 06 Mr. Olympia)

bigger? Maybe. Dorian was 10 lbs heavier which is not much. Ronnie's smaller joints and narrower waist give the illusion of added size compared to Dorian's blocky structure.

it isn't much? lol 10 pounds of solid muscle isn't much? sorry kid that's not true look at the difference between Ronnie 1998 and 1999 big difference and we're ONLY talking about Dorian 1993 , Dorian 1995 260 pounds according to Lee Haney , that now becomes a 13 pound size advantage , an then we're talking about Dorian pre-contest 269 pounds which now becomes a 22 pound size advantage NO ONE outmuscled Dorian NO ONE nice try though

pumpster posted this quote a while back

Quote from Lou Ferrigno, after the 1993 O:

  "Dorian won. He is as big as I am, but with a better overall frame. I knew I was competing for second place the minute he stepped onstage."




I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.

No before you post a pic of either they mean NOTHING compared to being there and guess what this is coming from an IFBB judge that means it's LAW

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia

"With his incredible thickness and muscle shape, Coleman doesn't need to weigh over 260 pounds on stage to look big. When he won the Arnold Classic last year, Ronnie only weighed 247 pounds but he looked like he weighed 20 pounds heavier."

Dexter Jackson – Getbig Interview 2004

“I am not the gossip type. I let them do all the talking, and I let my physique back my talking up. I know Craig Titus was saying something like he knows that Lee Priest is 200 pounds, I’m 220 pounds, and he is 250 pounds, and all this shit, but what Craig does not realize is that his 250 pounds is not like Ronnie Coleman’s 250 pounds. See what I am saying? I think I have proven to everyone that size doesn't matter. You don't look at Craig and say 'whoa, that’s a big dude’. You might say that about Ronnie or Jay at 250, but not Craig.”

Peter McGough – Flex Magazine, August 2005

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 247 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable."

see above

show me where Peter McGough explicitly says 01 ASC Ronnie never matched Dorian's conditioning. He only says nobody achieved the same level of hardness and dryness. Furthermore, since you believe what Peter says, then you concede that he's right about Ronnie having the best back of all-time.

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian

he was never drier or harder than Dorian

did you miss that?

did you miss where Dorian said he had better conditioning than Ronnie? I don't have to concede ANYTHING you're the one n denial I'm not

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha, "that's law."

the pics show loose skin on Dorian's lower back. Funny how the same folds shows up in his off-season pics but in his contest shots, it's not loose skin.

owned by Yates again  neo makes a claim I say the claim is nonsense he denies I provide PROOF from an IFBB judge and you guessed it deny , deny , deny lol you're owned you're proven wrong BY me I was confirmed right by a pro after the fact , this proves I always new what I was talking about and you still don't

[England_1]

hey idiot, the judges don't sit at the corners of the stage.

ha ha ha Ronnie's shitty legs are visible from ALL angles LOL. And the gut is visible a mile away. Jay is the ONLY guy up there with a good midsection. The only reason Ronnie won in 03 was because of his overwhelming size - NOT because he was a better BB. If Jay had a back, he would have defeated Ronnie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha, "that's law."

the pics show loose skin on Dorian's lower back. Funny how the same folds shows up in his off-season pics but in his contest shots, it's not loose skin.

Those lines on his triceps loose skin too LMMFAO

[England_1]

Nice loose skin on Ronnie here too 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha Ronnie's shitty legs are visible from ALL angles LOL. And the gut is visible a mile away. Jay is the ONLY guy up there with a good midsection. The only reason Ronnie won in 03 was because of his overwhelming size - NOT because he was a better BB. If Jay had a back, he would have defeated Ronnie.

look at those amazing calves lol

[NeoSeminole]

it isn't much? lol 10 pounds of solid muscle isn't much? sorry kid that's not true look at the difference between Ronnie 1998 and 1999 big difference and we're ONLY talking about Dorian 1993 , Dorian 1995 260 pounds according to Lee Haney , that now becomes a 13 pound size advantage , an then we're talking about Dorian pre-contest 269 pounds which now becomes a 22 pound size advantage NO ONE outmuscled Dorian NO ONE nice try though

when Dorian and Lee Haney competed in 91, they were only separated by a 2-3 lbs difference yet Haney looked much bigger. Smaller joints and better taper create the illusion of added size. Even your hero, Dorian, says weight doesn't mean shit.

Dorian Yates - Bodybuliding.com Interview

"at the end of the day it's not a weight contest, it's a visual contest. And it doesn't matter what you say you weigh, if you don't look that big then you don't look that big."

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian_yates_interview_1993_gym_shots.htm

pumpster posted this quote a while back

Quote from Lou Ferrigno, after the 1993 O:

"Dorian won. He is as big as I am, but with a better overall frame. I knew I was competing for second place the minute he stepped onstage."

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.

well shit, I guess it must be true since they said so. I suppose Ronnie developed never before seen muscles.

Kenny Kassel, IFBB Official - Flex, Janurary 2004

"Ronnie has managed to develop muscles that haven't been identified yet."

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian

he was never drier or harder than Dorian

did you miss that?

I'm still waiting for you to show me where Peter explicitly said Ronnie never matched Dorian's conditioning.

did you miss where Dorian said he had better conditioning than Ronnie? I don't have to concede ANYTHING you're the one n denial I'm not

show me where he specifically referred to Ronnie's 01 ASC physique. He could have been talking about Ronnie during the end of his reign.

[England_1]

when Dorian and Lee Haney competed in 91, they were only separated by a 2-3 lbs difference yet Haney looked much bigger. Smaller joints and better taper create the illusion of added size. Even your hero, Dorian, says weight doesn't mean shit.

You moron, Dorian weighed 239 and Haney weighed 250 and Dorian still won the muscularity round ha ha ha. Now imagine Dorian at 260lbs and in much BETTER condition  Semenhole PWNED.

[England_1]

Kenny Kassel, IFBB Official - Flex, Janurary 2004

"Ronnie has managed to develop muscles that haven't been identified yet."

Just to confirm, Kenny is referring to the alien growing inside Ronnie's massive GUT 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Just to confirm, Kenny is referring to the alien growing inside Ronnie's massive GUT 

according to the dummy Neo his gut is ' flush ' with his pecs lol

[ASJChaotic]

Just to confirm, Kenny is referring to the alien growing inside Ronnie's massive GUT 

Dorian and Ronnie BOTH had guts, this is a fact, more to the next thing.

[NeoSeminole]

You moron, Dorian weighed 239 and Haney weighed 250 and Dorian still won the muscularity round ha ha ha. Now imagine Dorian at 260lbs and in much BETTER condition

you can start sucking my cock now.

"Orlando, Florida, was the site of the 1991 Mr. Olympia. Haney was going for eight in a row, but for the first time he was up against a man who was the same height (5′11") and weight (245 pounds) in Dorian Yates, the Beast from Britain. Four points separated them after two rounds, but Haney pulled away in rounds three and four to seize his eighth championship in a row."

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/3/

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian and Ronnie BOTH had guts, this is a fact, more to the next thing.

No one is denying this but Neo is denying Ronnie did onstage in 03 which is obviously wrong

[NarcissisticDeity]

you can start sucking my cock now.

"Orlando, Florida, was the site of the 1991 Mr. Olympia. Haney was going for eight in a row, but for the first time he was up against a man who was the same height (5′11") and weight (245 pounds) in Dorian Yates, the Beast from Britain. Four points separated them after two rounds, but Haney pulled away in rounds three and four to seize his eighth championship in a row."

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/3/

That's wrong Haney was 249 pounds in 1991 and Dorian I believe was either 239 or 240 and what's your obsession with Gay overtones? I thought you had a g/f ?

[ASJChaotic]

No one is denying this but Neo is denying Ronnie did onstage in 03 which is obviously wrong

they both had huge guts, neither side can deny this one!

[NeoSeminole]

No one is denying this but Neo is denying Ronnie did onstage in 03 which is obviously wrong

bullshit, I never once said Ronnie didn't have a gut in 03. I said he didn't have a gut in the video I have of him during prejudging. There's a difference between having a distended stomach that hangs out when relaxed and having a gut that hangs out all the time. Ronnie kept his in check during the mandatory poses, which is what the judges look at.

[NarcissisticDeity]

bullshit, I never once said Ronnie didn't have a gut in 03. I said he didn't have a gut in the video I have of him during prejudging.

and you're wrong either way I seen the whole video , you're still wrong semantics aside

[ASJChaotic]

I admit, Big Ron looked pregnant that year 
Kevin should have won 

[NeoSeminole]

and you're wrong either way I seen the whole video , you're still wrong semantics aside

this is a blatant lie. I can post a pic of Ronnie without a gut in every mandatory pose.

[NarcissisticDeity]

this is a blatant lie. I can post a pic of Ronnie without a gut in every mandatory pose.

oh fuck me you're an idiot I just posted a pic of him IN a mandatory with a GUT from 2003 you're just being contrary now

[NeoSeminole]

That's wrong Haney was 249 pounds in 1991 and Dorian I believe was either 239 or 240 and what's your obsession with Gay overtones? I thought you had a g/f?

I do have a gf. It's just funny effeminating others as a sign of my dominance.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I do have a gf. It's just funny effeminating others as a sign of my dominance.

no your constantly do it what would Freud say? and I would say it's a sign of repressed homosexual feelings , nothing wrong with being gay either but lets be honest here

[NeoSeminole]

oh fuck me you're an idiot I just posted a pic of him IN a mandatory with a GUT from 2003 you're just being contrary now

no gut.





yes, we all know you can find an unflattering pic of Ronnie taken from an angle the judges would never see. I can do the same for Dorian if you want to play that game.

[NeoSeminole]

no your constantly do it what would Freud say? and I would say it's a sign of repressed homosexual feelings , nothing wrong with being gay either but lets be honest here

even Freud didn't believe the shit he said. What was that about cigars?

[England_1]

I do have a gf. It's just funny effeminating others as a sign of my dominance.

Hey dipshit...."He's like Haney WITH BETTER LEGS"

Negates any crap you posted about Haney looking bigger you little f*ggot. Oh, and notice the weight at the beginning of the video  Consider yourself owned (again) ha ha ha.