I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...

[Canadian_Muscle]

He does look like Roland.

Hahahaha, pretty soon, you will shoulder bump that same coach, he'll turn around and look at the floor

I had a coach like that too playing Bantam AA back in the days. I fucked his daughter and never called her back

lmao, yeah i hope to run into him sometime. You just gave me a great idea btw 

[gib]

Alex - you have a pretty decent base. If you are 100% natural to date, I would say you should definately try a cycle. Bring down the body fat slowly during the course of the cycle while building muscle. And lets us see your pics once you are done.

[Alex23]

Alex - you have a pretty decent base. If you are 100% natural to date, I would say you should definately try a cycle. Bring down the body fat slowly during the course of the cycle while building muscle. And lets us see your pics once you are done.

Is is possible to shed fat and build mass at the same time while on?

[Soundness]

Is is possible to shed fat and build mass at the same time while on?

I would help you, but I don't know anything about the drugs.

All I know is that you want to master the post cycle therapy part in order to avoid gyno.

I tried to order superdrol once through a local store, but it got banned exactly then and they couldn't order it. I heard about masteron researching superdrol. I read that you can gain muscle and lose fat simultaneously on it, that's why many people use it while cutting for a show.... After more research I decided against taking anything.

[Alex23]

I heard masteron would do it. That's all I know.

[Soundness]

I heard many use it while conditioning for this very reason. That's all I heard.

[gib]

Definately!

If you can get hold of a testosterone (eg Sustanon) and then take that stacked with an oral such as dbol, and train hard, eat well, you will very likely get really huge muscle gains with fat reducing naturally. Just monitor it over the period of your cycle, and aim to get it down slowly. If needed, you could add in 15-20 mins cardio before some of your workouts (its both a good warm-up, and a good way to lean up).

[Alex23]

Thanks guys, all good advice. I think I'm ready.

[Soundness]

Definately!

If you can get hold of a testosterone (eg Sustanon) and then take that stacked with an oral such as dbol, and train hard, eat well, you will very likely get really huge muscle gains with fat reducing naturally. Just monitor it over the period of your cycle, and aim to get it down slowly. If needed, you could add in 15-20 mins cardio before some of your workouts (its both a good warm-up, and a good way to lean up).

...

[powerpack]

If your are a natty I am very impressed 

[hazbin]

you always remind me of my buddy Steve Disalvo. he hung out with Kazmier and Jeff Everson and benched over 600 raw in the 80's.

[Gino30]

Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

and we care in what way?

[Soundness]

you always remind me of my buddy Steve Disalvo. he hung out with Kazmier and Jeff Everson and benched over 600 raw in the 80's.

  That does look like Alex...

[Bobby]

Thanks Flex.

Let the experiment begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All, PM me for sources

there was a change of heart

Let's see...

• 20-25hrs a week spent in the gym/cardio/driving to that 'gym'
• countless hours cooking shit (I don't get this one)
• Devoted posting on getbig
• Getting eyebrows done to look good when attending local shows
• ~200$/month on "supplements"
• ~300-500$/month on drugs
• ~100$/month on Otomix and other senseless 'bodybuilding' clothing (oh brother)
• 200-300$ spend on "gurus" of all kinds

Another way to use all this free time and resources:

Get an MBA (5-10hrs a week part time!)
Work on a business plan, Develop a new product
Put extra time at work, get ahead and get promoted
Research and Invest (real estate, stock market...)
Tutor your kids or mentor one through big brother program
Teach at your local community college
Buy a camera and schmoe every other weekend of the year at bb shows and get paid doing it...

The list is endless...

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=249922.0

you achieved the first one so now it's on to the other?



On a more serious note: If you're natural now you don't need drugs. You have more than enough size (unless you want to go pro) what you need is a diet that makes you lean. you have the size, cuts is what's missing.

[Mars]

thats not alex.

[NaturalWonder83]

looking great alex

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm expecting 20" arms pretty dry; I'm already 19" and barely training, got married and being eating shit all month...

Yes, you would have bigger arms than Arnold after one cycle, and you're shorter too! 

Actually, your arms are a weak bodypart compared to the rest of you. That's not hate, it's just obvious from the pics. Even on the best of stacks you'd be a light heavy at best, if dieted down for a show from that starting point, like I said once. Not a heavy like you thought. Arms maybe 17.5 or so if lucky. We didn't find out if I was right since you backed out of the show you were supposed to do. 

[dr.chimps]

you always remind me of my buddy Steve Disalvo. he hung out with Kazmier and Jeff Everson and benched over 600 raw in the 80's.

That's not 'Sadistic' Steve!   

[DK II]

Alex, no hating, but you're delusional. Diet down you fat fuck.

[Method101]

Thanks guys, all good advice. I think I'm ready.

Alex, we all know you aint going to go on the juice, you just got married etc. why are you talking all this bullshit here?

[IFBBwannaB]

Alex, we all know you aint going to go on the juice, you just got married etc. why are you talking all this bullshit here?

Attention whore? Just like him claiming to fuck his boss dailly at one thread and talking about marriage at the other...no life= lots of stories.

[_bruce_]

Looking great - nearly optimal.
A little bit more size on the arms would be great.

[QuakerOats]

Alex is a big dude but "close to pro size", man i need some of what he's smoking.

[tleilaxutank]

If you are natural; stay that way..

You seem to be plenty successful in life and have a good build...the only reason to "up the ante" at this point would be due to some feeling of inadequacy.  What troubles you, bro?

[JasonH]

From his pics, Alex23 seems to be the classic mesomorph - very thick structure (especially in the torso region) and probably naturally strong. It's guys like these that I would like to meet from Getbig in real life just to see how I measure up - we're the same height - 5'10", but I'm not a mesomorph - naturally quite skinny with small joints but I have decent muscle shape. I weigh around 235 so our weights are similiar. However, my bodyfat is around 12-15% at the moment.

My advice to Alex - diet down a bit - lose a lot of that gut because you're actually carrying a lot more fat than you think you are - I thought I was "close to pro size" too until I went to the Mr Olympia this year and even some of the amateur physiques I saw put me to shame - you're never as big as you realise!