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leg day after a deadlift back day
« on: December 07, 2008, 11:28:20 PM »
Yay or nay? or should i just go on my own feelings about the soreness of my legs?

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 01:43:35 AM »
Definitely no.

Have some rest in between.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2008, 02:54:06 AM »
Definitely no.

Have some rest in between.
Good advice.

Don't do the deadlifts and leg day in a row. The part of the deadlift movement that involves the legs involves the same leg action as squats. This would almost be like doing squats 2 days in a row. You'll hinder your progress in legs due to overlap. (Too much volume on legs.) 

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2008, 07:02:46 AM »
Good advice.

Don't do the deadlifts and leg day in a row. The part of the deadlift movement that involves the legs involves the same leg action as squats. This would almost be like doing squats 2 days in a row. You'll hinder your progress in legs due to overlap. (Too much volume on legs.) 

I try to have legs and back as far away as possible in a week.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2008, 08:40:39 AM »
yes few set of olympic style squat after deadlift.
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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 10:30:51 AM »
Nay. Not so much the legs but lower back stress from both these movements. Have at least 2 day' rest. Preferred  would be 3  or 4 days between. Good Luck.
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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 08:56:34 PM »
You could also do deadlifts on leg day.  Most powerlifters do it that way, as do some bodybuilders (IIRC, Ronnie Coleman deadlifted and squatted on the same day in one of his videos).

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 05:58:50 AM »
Not for me legs are still sore.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 06:02:07 AM »
I do my deadlifts on leg day

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 06:04:04 AM »
I do my deadlifts on leg day

lol, seriously??

That's dumb.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2008, 06:29:27 AM »
lol, seriously??

That's dumb.

well then please enlighten me with your genius. why do you find this so humourus I know im not the only one that does this.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 07:14:16 AM »
well then please enlighten me with your genius. why do you find this so humourus I know im not the only one that does this.

Again, (i said this before) "I am not the only dumb person" is no valuable answer.

When you do deads on leg day, you will not be able to do heavy full squats as well, or you are superman. Stiff legged deads for hamstring development are ok on leg day, but deadlifts are a back exercise, and a very heavy one.

Either you train legs like a sissy, or you deadlift like a girl. BOTH on one day os impossible.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2008, 07:55:40 AM »
Deads aren't even necessary in the routine IMO, if you're doing squats and rowing exercises you're already hitting that area. Plus they're easy to get injured doing.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2008, 07:59:36 AM »
Squats and DL's in the same workout is a very workable idea. I have done it quite a bit, as many others have.

If your doing each exercise the right way, and with good form, there should be no negatives. And that includes sets of 2's and 3's (even in a PR). If your too tuckered out from one or the other exercise, when trying to do both in the same workout, your working out wrong. Actually each movement can set up the other when training on the same day. Good Luck.
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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2008, 08:04:44 AM »
Squats and DL's in the same workout is a very workable idea. I have done it quite a bit, as many others have.

If your doing each exercise the right way, and with good form, there should be no negatives. And that includes sets of 2's and 3's (even in a PR). If your too tuckered out from one or the other exercise, when trying to do both in the same workout, your working out wrong. Actually each movement can set up the other when training on the same day. Good Luck.
hahaha, another post from this clown claiming to be Superman who can do anything but can't seem to grasp the concept of posting a picture of himself. ::)

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2008, 08:27:14 AM »
Sweet talk will get you nowhere OuakerOats. Hope this helps and Good Luck next time.
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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2008, 08:43:59 AM »
Actually if QO's watched the USC-UCLA game he could have caught me standing on the sidelines in a few shots on TV. That's what some of my friends tell me. Had to support my island bros. Good Luck.
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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2008, 08:59:31 AM »
I have done both dead's and squat's in the same workout, but I couldn't go all out on each one.  I'd alternate them each week, starting with heavy squats then finishing with higher rep (12-15) deads at the end of the workout, then vice versa the next week.  The reason I did this is because deads always leave my hams very sore, and so it was better for me to do them on leg day.

When I was doing this, I was on a Pull/Push/Legs split.  It worked OK for me, but as soon as I went on to a 4 day schedule, I moved deads to back day.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2008, 11:39:57 AM »
I try to have legs and back as far away as possible in a week.
agree...a dead is the same movement in sense except the bar is in front then on your back give yourself some days in between before attempting

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2008, 11:57:37 AM »
lol, seriously??

That's dumb.

Depends on how many reps you're doing.  If you're doing doubles or triples you probably won't get enough of a pump or burn in the muscles to see a breakdown in form doing both in the same workout.  If you're doing hypertrophy-range reps for both then splitting them up is probably better.


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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2008, 12:24:08 PM »
Depends on how many reps you're doing.  If you're doing doubles or triples you probably won't get enough of a pump or burn in the muscles to see a breakdown in form doing both in the same workout.  If you're doing hypertrophy-range reps for both then splitting them up is probably better.



2 or 3 reps are worthless for bodybuilders anyways.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2008, 01:09:25 PM »
2 or 3 reps are worthless for bodybuilders anyways.

A search for the word "bodybuilding" in this thread comes up with zero results.

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2008, 01:17:16 PM »
A search for the word "bodybuilding" in this thread comes up with zero results.


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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
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Excellent contribution.

And ditto for the belief that 2-3 reps are "useless for bodybuilders."  More strength equals more weight for more reps.  More weight for more reps equals more muscle.  Or if you prefer math,

Low reps = more strength
More strength = more weight for more reps
More weight, more reps = more muscle

Therefore, low reps = more muscle

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Re: leg day after a deadlift back day
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 01:30:23 PM »
Excellent contribution.

And ditto for the belief that 2-3 reps are "useless for bodybuilders."  More strength equals more weight for more reps.  More weight for more reps equals more muscle.  Or if you prefer math,

Low reps = more strength
More strength = more weight for more reps
More weight, more reps = more muscle

Therefore, low reps = more muscle

agreed, but NEVER 2 reps on deads and squats if you want to do this sport longer than 2 years.

4-6 reps are perfectly fine for building strength, there's no need for 2 or 3 reps, only if you are a powerlifter.
For building muscle, it's plain useless and will only result in some serious injuries.