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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2008, 05:41:02 AM »
i think little guys should find some other sport where they fit right,,,,, bbin is a freak show

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2008, 05:45:26 AM »
Your kidding right?  I think some of us are confused about what it will take to bring our sport "out from behind the shadows".  It definitely is not the Mass Monster.  We have to realize that the number op people who follow our sport is very slim.  The general public has no desire to see the freakish muscle and pure bulk of todays mass monsters.  Our sport has a much better chance of moving towards the mainstream by moving toward the more aesthetic physiques with nice lines and symmetry, regardless of the size.  Just so happens that the smaller bodybuilders seem to display these traits more than the mass monsters. Obviously this is still bodybuilding so there has to be a good mix of size and symmetry but the days of pure mass have shown that this is not what the mainstream desire to see.  I'd like to see a good mix of size and symmetry but I'm sure the under 200 competitions will bring an increased following in itself and more than likely bring our sport more into the mainstream then it has ever been before.

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2008, 05:47:28 AM »
i also think the usa should stop awarding pro cards to every class and award to the overall and a top placing heavy like they do in every other country!!!!

exactly, all of these "light heavyweight" guys getting something they DONT deserve...

I too think they should get rid of weight classes.  Let the tiny tits stand next to the full grown men and get embarrassed.  It's that simple.

i would love to see a "light" "heavy"weight guy standing against a real HEAVYWEIGHT champion!
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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2008, 05:51:55 AM »
im sory like, but thats utter bullshit,,,,,,,, only people that watch bodybuilding are bodybuilders, or family and freinds of bodybuilders that go to support ther brother/husband etc etc.... no one out side of the sport will ever follow it no matter how small or big we get,, thats a fact!!!!!
Now what happens when youve got and audience bigger than the competitors on stage?..they stop paying and dont bother watching,, i wouldnt pay to watch a bunch of blokes that are smaller than me, no matter how nice there lines are, you go to a show to be blown away

Yes I concur bodybuilding is extremely gay these days.  But you're wrong.  More people would follow the sport if the physiques weren't so unattainable by the average person.  Looking like a Frank Zane is attainable with modest amounts of steroid and average genetics and hardwork.  Looking like Ronnie Coleman is from another planet.  That's the problem with bodybuilding.  3/4 of all NFL fans have probably never played a sport in their life, doesnt stop them from being football fans. 


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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2008, 05:52:24 AM »

i would love to see a "light" "heavy"weight guy standing against a real HEAVYWEIGHT champion!

hahaha, they would disappear.

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2008, 05:54:31 AM »
i think little guys should find some other sport where they fit right,,,,, bbin is a freak show

At its peak it was never a freakshow.  The golden era was called the golden era for a reason.  Do you think people nowadays wouldn't find Bill Pearl or Arnold's physique impressive?  Of course they would.  The factors responsible for the decline of bodybuilding have much more to do with the overall image of the sport, not just the size and shape of the competitors.  Plus the in your face homosexual side of bodybuilding is much more apparent nowadays than it was in the 50s and 60's. 

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2008, 05:55:47 AM »
I can remember way back in 1979,yeah i'm that old, Franco was in a vitalis commercial talking about "the pump" a non aresol hairspray for men. Yup, national TV!!! Frank Zane was mr. O and on wide world of sports.People knew these guys. Ask anyone in your office or place of work who is this years mr.O.  bigger is better?????????????????

Frank Zane looked good, even in clothes.

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2008, 05:59:39 AM »
Frank Zane looked good, even in clothes.

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So did Dave Draper, Bill Pearl, and a host of others.  Also you gotta understand bodybuilding for the most part was still a very healthy endeavor despite the steroids back then.  Armand Tanny and a host of others are 80+ year sold and going strong.  NOT ONE PRO bodybuilder would ever be considered a bastion of health and vitality.  Pros nowadays retire and look like death warmed up.  Ronnie Coleman had to have fucking oxygen backstage during one of his competitions.  When he was on David Letterman he was panting like a maimed gorilla.  But look at all the morons and idiots on the internet, getbig included.  Does it really surprise you why the sport is the way it is? 

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2008, 06:01:48 AM »
So did Dave Draper, Bill Pearl, and a host of others.  Also you gotta understand bodybuilding for the most part was still a very healthy endeavor despite the steroids back then.  Armand Tanny and a host of others are 80+ year sold and going strong.  NOT ONE PRO bodybuilder would ever be considered a bastion of health and vitality.  Pros nowadays retire and look like death warmed up.  Ronnie Coleman had to have fucking oxygen backstage during one of his competitions.  When he was on David Letterman he was panting like a maimed gorilla.  But look at all the morons and idiots on the internet, getbig included.  Does it really surprise you why the sport is the way it is? 

BB's popularity died with Dorian Yates. (or insulin and hgh, if you like).

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2008, 06:13:00 AM »
frank zane was way better than current "light""heavy"weight competitors...wtf is a light heavyweight anyway :(
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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2008, 06:20:32 AM »
frank zane was way better than current "light""heavy"weight competitors...wtf is a light heavyweight anyway :(

light heavyweight is an euphemism for "midget".

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2008, 06:21:59 AM »
light heavyweight is an euphemism for "midget".

How is possible the use LIGHT and HEAVY at the same time? Its like having and no having money, its nothing concrete, a big joke.

how many LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT competitors are in getbig?
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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2008, 06:25:33 AM »
How is possible the use LIGHT and HEAVY at the same time? Its like having and no having money, its nothing concrete, a big joke.

how many LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT competitors are in getbig?

Yes, it's like using "Latino" and "white" at the same time.  ;)

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2008, 06:25:52 AM »
BB's popularity died with Dorian Yates. (or insulin and hgh, if you like).

Please, Dorian was one of the most unhealthy looking bodybuilders to ever step on stage.  He looks like death warmed up now that he's retired as well.  Bodybuilding's popularity died with the onslaught of extreme drug use/abuse, the extreme hype of supplements, and the in your face homosexuality to name a few things.  Average joes used to be drawn to bodybuilding first because overall it was a fairly healthy endeavor and secondly the physiques used to be fairly attainable even with little to no drug use.  You may not look like Frank Zane or Bill Pearl without drugs but if you got up off your ass and ate right and trained you'd pack on a good amount of muscle.  Take a young kid that has any interest in the sport.  By the time he gets his ass in the gym and realizes he'll NEVER look like Ronnie Coleman he'll either give up or jump on steroids and realize everything about the sport is a huge lie.

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2008, 06:27:29 AM »
Please, Dorian was one of the most unhealthy looking bodybuilders to ever step on stage.  He looks like death warmed up now that he's retired as well.  Bodybuilding's popularity died with the onslaught of extreme drug use/abuse, the extreme hype of supplements, and the in your face homosexuality to name a few things.  Average joes used to be drawn to bodybuilding first because overall it was a fairly healthy endeavor and secondly the physiques used to be fairly attainable even with little to no drug use.  You may not look like Frank Zane or Bill Pearl without drugs but if you got up off your ass and ate right and trained you'd pack on a good amount of muscle.  Take a young kid that has any interest in the sport.  By the time he gets his ass in the gym and realizes he'll NEVER look like Ronnie Coleman he'll either give up or jump on steroids.  

question is, what the fuck is a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT bodybuilder?
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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2008, 06:28:35 AM »
question is, what the fuck is a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT bodybuilder?

a person who can't gain much muscle and is doomed to stay small, but still continues "living the dream"  ::)

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2008, 06:33:09 AM »
a person who can't gain much muscle and is doomed to stay small, but still continues "living the dream"  ::)

Do you think its appropiated to call it LIGHT HEAVYweight? Light+heavy?

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2008, 06:35:17 AM »
Do you think its appropiated to call it LIGHT HEAVYweight? Light+heavy?



they have all kinds of classes, it's bullshit

lightweight
welterweight
middleweight
lightheavy weight
heavy weight
superheavyweight

it's like wtf, the goal of bodybuilding is to build as much muscle as possible, small guys need to take a back seat.

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2008, 06:36:09 AM »
question is, what the fuck is a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT bodybuilder?

Well what is a light heavyweight boxer?  Every sport has weight classes.  Just because someone doesn't stand 6' and 300lbs doesn't mean they don't represent the essence of bodybuilding.  I mean light heavyweight or not bodybuilding isn't only about size.  It's also about definition.  Look at the definition of the top IFBB pros nowadays.  It's shit.  They are all smoother than they've ever been.  Lack of lasix?  Too much slin?  Too big?  who knows why.  Whether your can throw a football or hit a home run, bodybuilding is no different, it's about doing what 99% of the population can't.  

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2008, 06:39:15 AM »
they have all kinds of classes, it's bullshit

lightweight
welterweight
middleweight
lightheavy weight
heavy weight
superheavyweight

it's like wtf, the goal of bodybuilding is to build as much muscle as possible, small guys need to take a back seat.


Haha coming from such a bastion of size and mass!!!!!   

The goal of bodybuilding has never been about building as much muscle as possible.  I mean fuck if that was the case strongestman contenders probably have more muscle than any top pro bodybuilder.  Bodybuilding is the entire package............symme try, size, definition, conditioning (not stepping on stage and needing oxygen back stage when you walk off).  The human body comes in all different shapes and sizes.  So there should be many types of categories allowing for this genetic variance.  Some of the smaller guys look much better than the bloated, GH gut pros anyways. 

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2008, 06:42:01 AM »
Haha coming from such a bastion of size and mass!!!!!   
The goal of bodybuilding has never been about building as much muscle as possible.  I mean fuck if that was the case strongestman contenders probably have more muscle than any top pro bodybuilder.  Bodybuilding is the entire package............symme try, size, definition, conditioning (not stepping on stage and needing oxygen back stage when you walk off).  The human body comes in all different shapes and sizes.  So there should be many types of categories allowing for this genetic variance.  Some of the smaller guys look much better than the bloated, GH gut pros anyways. 

I'd qualify as a super heavyweight, and I'd dwarf your five foot tall frame, there you go "big guy"  ;)

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2008, 06:42:28 AM »
Well what is a light heavyweight boxer?  Every sport has weight classes.  Just because someone doesn't stand 6' and 300lbs doesn't mean they don't represent the essence of bodybuilding.  I mean light heavyweight or not bodybuilding isn't only about size.  It's also about definition.  Look at the definition of the top IFBB pros nowadays.  It's shit.  They are all smoother than they've ever been.  Lack of lasix?  Too much slin?  Too big?  who knows why.  Whether your can throw a football or hit a home run, bodybuilding is no different, it's about doing what 99% of the population can't.  

we are talking about bodybuilding not the other homo sports. anyway, light heavyweight is the biggest joke in bodybuilding
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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2008, 06:50:52 AM »
we are talking about bodybuilding not the other homo sports. anyway, light heavyweight is the biggest joke in bodybuilding

Yeah I forgot boxing was such a homo sport.   ::)

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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2008, 06:53:28 AM »
Yeah I forgot boxing was such a homo sport.   ::)

punching people in their faces is pretty "thug" right? are you a competitor or not?
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Re: Lightweight champion...what the fuck does this mean?
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2008, 07:57:30 AM »
i think weight classes are fine to turn pro and keeps bbing from really flaming out,smaller weight classes fill up with more competitiors dur to weight restrictions if and when they turn pro then one can try if they will to gain size needed to compete a s a pro,with that i must say that with increase in diet and supplementation natural and unnnatural u see bbers at say a height of 5'6 compete as lightweight ripped to the bone,a more muscular sized middle,lightheavy ,and 5'6 built like a tank heavyweight,that all depends on the structure,mass,and how the muscle is distributed on that 5'6 frame ,thats what makes bbing unique .i used that height as example,theres 5'4 lightheavies and heavyweights now,back in the 80's those guys that height were lightweights ripped but weighed 154 lbs not anymore,aau stuck by height classes that's were u saw guys being outweighed in there height class but it did make it interesting.