plan on just doing compound exercises

[big L dawg]

what do you guys think?no isolation just compound movements 4 a couple months.just to switch it up.

[leonp1981]

I enjoyed it when I tried it.  I was trying to increase my 8-rep max on a different exercise each week and it kept me motivated for quite a while doing that.  I would keep an eye on the volume though, cos too much of this can lead to overtraining quite quickly.

[Bluto]

better than the other way around

[Soundness]

what do you guys think?no isolation just compound movements 4 a couple months.just to switch it up.

Well, you will build more muscle than you ever have in your weightlifting career if you've never done that before. 

[big L dawg]

Well, you will build more muscle than you ever have in your weightlifting career if you've never done that before. 

I'v done it for maybe a week or or two.but never long term like 8-10 weeks.

[Soundness]

I'v done it for maybe a week or or two.but never long term like 8-10 weeks.

Stick with it, train for strength, and eliminate isolations altogether for a number of months.

You'll pack on more size than ever if you've never done this seriously...

[The Coach]

what do you guys think?no isolation just compound movements 4 a couple months.just to switch it up.

Good idea, you won't lose size anywhere because you'll be recruiting those motor units and have already been developed with isolation.

[garebear]

You're not even gonna curl?

[big L dawg]

You're not even gonna curl?

no

[Soundness]

You're not even gonna curl?

Compound lifts like chins (or palms-up pulldowns) and deadlifts will still hit the biceps and make them grow.

Also, when you make your legs grow (ex., squats) your whole body will grow.

[chaos]

You're not even gonna curl?

Rowing/pulling movements will incorporate the biceps. I did 0 bicep work for a good 2 months because of tendonitis, I lost less that 1/4 of an inch off my arms, but my bicep strength did drop.

[Zach Trowbridge]

Compound lifts like chins (or palms-up pulldowns) and deadlifts will still hit the biceps and make them grow.

I've seen studies that have contended that an underhand chin with a full range of motion recruits more motor units in the biceps than a traditional barbell curl.

[#1 Klaus fan]

better than the other way around

Exactly.

[jpm101]

Yes, a closer underhanded grip can be a major bicep developer. Easier for most folk to use a curl grip pull down though.  Doing one arm at a time can work well with a cable pull down handle. The twist with-in the ROM can be very affective for the biceps. Check out the arm's of most gymnist who use the rings and that twisting affect.

Another exercise no one see's anymore is rope climbing. Exellent for biceps and the lat's. Known a few rock climbers also, in the past. Lean but usually good forearms, biceps, delts and lats.

DL's can stretch the biceps but probably not a major factor for bicep growth. Just my view. Good Luck.

[QuakerOats]

the greatest bencher of all time James Henderson does just flat benches and close grips for his bench press training, sometimes some inclines, that's it.

[Soundness]

Yes, a closer underhanded grip can be a major bicep developer. Easier for most folk to use a curl grip pull down though.  Doing one arm at a time can work well with a cable pull down handle. The twist with-in the ROM can be very affective for the biceps. Check out the arm's of most gymnist who use the rings and that twisting affect.

Another exercise no one see's anymore is rope climbing. Exellent for biceps and the lat's. Known a few rock climbers also, in the past. Lean but usually good forearms, biceps, delts and lats.

DL's can stretch the biceps but probably not a major factor for bicep growth. Just my view. Good Luck.

Hell of a point. Rope climbing is extremely effective. It would be great to see more gyms offer a rope to climb for their members.

They probably don't because 1) both themselves and the majority of their members don't realize how effective it is, and 2) liability issues. 
 

[chaos]

Hell of a point. Rope climbing is extremely effective. It would be great to see more gyms offer a rope to climb for their members.

They probably don't because 1) both themselves and the majority of their members don't realize how effective it is, and 2) liability issues. 
 

Probably #2 more than anything else.

[Soundness]

Probably #2 more than anything else.

Yeah, if someone climbed to the ceiling and dropped they may be in very deep shit.
Maybe have them sign a waiver that doesn't hold the gym reliable for accidents caused by use of their equipment...I believe that's what they do now, have members sign a paper that has "at your own risk" type terms. I guess it's similar to if some idiot loaded up too much on the squat, it makes them collapse and crushes their spine, the gym wouldn't be responsible... 

[ASJChaotic]

These parts will not grow

biceps
triceps
middle deltoids
calves


depeding on which exercises you do, and how deep you go on squats your hamstrings might not either

which exercises are you doing?

bench
squat
deadlift
row
shoulder press

?

[leonp1981]

These parts will not grow

biceps
triceps
middle deltoids
calves


depeding on which exercises you do, and how deep you go on squats your hamstrings might not either

which exercises are you doing?

bench
squat
deadlift
row
shoulder press

?

Of course they will, apart from calves. 

Biceps - during chins and rows.
Triceps - during any pressing movement.
Middle Delt - during any shoulder press.

All of which are normally included in this type of workout.  It's essentially what anyone who's starting out should be doing as well, all compounds, 6-12 reps, with a weight heavy for them.  You can do whole body twice a week, or break it down into 2 or 3 day sessions using nothing but compounds. 

Don't forget that 'compound' refers to any exercise where more than one muscle group is involved.  So anything from squats to military presses to chins to upright rows even.

[ASJChaotic]

Of course they will, apart from calves. 

Biceps - during chins and rows.
Triceps - during any pressing movement.
Middle Delt - during any shoulder press.

All of which are normally included in this type of workout.  It's essentially what anyone who's starting out should be doing as well, all compounds, 6-12 reps, with a weight heavy for them.  You can do whole body twice a week, or break it down into 2 or 3 day sessions using nothing but compounds. 

Don't forget that 'compound' refers to any exercise where more than one muscle group is involved.  So anything from squats to military presses to chins to upright rows even.

the middle delt is not working during pressing movements, it's "assisting" look at powerlifters
they can press alot but still don't have the shoulder cap of bodybuilders

plus, for your bodypart to grow you need to hit it with enough intensity
being a secondary muscle is not just gonna do it

Your body only works in terms of survival, and only grows the muscles that you train 

[tonymctones]

the bis and tris will still definitly grow and so will the lateral delt to a lesser extent probably not the calves...i like the idea but still would throw in a few isolation exercises just do the compounds first

[Zach Trowbridge]

the middle delt is not working during pressing movements, it's "assisting" look at powerlifters
they can press alot but still don't have the shoulder cap of bodybuilders

plus, for your bodypart to grow you need to hit it with enough intensity
being a secondary muscle is not just gonna do it

Your body only works in terms of survival, and only grows the muscles that you train 

First things first.  You are a fucking retard.  Pick up a kinesiology book and read for a while.  You're pretty much the last person qualified to be giving any sort of training advice.

Second, most people can grow like a weed doing compound-only work.  It's not a refinement program where you're worried about how balanced your side delts are, it's a strength and muscle-building program where you're looking to add 10-12 pounds of raw muscle in a pretty short period of time.  More people would be better off following this style of program for the first few years of training.

Third, compare your shoulder development to ANY world-class powerlifter and tell me that you beat them in "shoulder cap".

[Zach Trowbridge]

the bis and tris will still definitly grow and so will the lateral delt to a lesser extent probably not the calves...i like the idea but still would throw in a few isolation exercises just do the compounds first

Throw in some standing or donkey calf raises, or hell, just power cleans with ankle extension and your calves are good.

[ASJChaotic]

First things first.  You are a fucking retard.  Pick up a kinesiology book and read for a while.  You're pretty much the last person qualified to be giving any sort of training advice.

Second, most people can grow like a weed doing compound-only work.  It's not a refinement program where you're worried about how balanced your side delts are, it's a strength and muscle-building program where you're looking to add 10-12 pounds of raw muscle in a pretty short period of time.  More people would be better off following this style of program for the first few years of training.

Third, compare your shoulder development to ANY world-class powerlifter and tell me that you beat them in "shoulder cap".

Exercise
Dumbbell shoulder press

Muscles
Target

Deltoid, Anterior


Synergists

Deltoid, Lateral
Supraspinatus
Triceps Brachii
Trapezius, Middle
Trapezius, Lower
Serratus Anterior, Inferior Digitations
Pectoralis Major, Clavicular
Dynamic Stabilizers

Triceps, Long Head
Biceps Brachii
Stabilizers

Trapezius, Upper
Levator Scapulae







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