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Cowboys meltdown continues...
« on: December 11, 2008, 04:26:49 PM »
Is TO right? Seems a lot of the team actually sides with him.

Sources: T.O.'s expressed resentment toward Romo & Witten
Updated: December 11, 2008

 According to multiple sources within the Dallas Cowboys, there is an emerging internal conflict involving three of the team's highest-profile stars.

As the preseason Super Bowl favorites struggle in the final month of the season to simply make the playoffs, wide receiver Terrell Owens has expressed resentment toward Tony Romo, apparently jealous of the quarterback's relationship with tight end Jason Witten.

Owens feels that Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates who came to Dallas in the same offseason -- hold private meetings in which they create plays the two will use in upcoming games without including Owens in the conversations, according to a source who speaks regularly with Owens' teammates. Owens believes these discussions have worked to his detriment as Romo seeks to deliver the ball to Witten regardless of whether Owens is open.

"I don't know anything about that," Wade Phillips said when asked about a possible rift at his news conference on Thursday.

"We've thrown for a lot of yards with a lot of players. One receiver is pretty close to 1,000 yards. ... There's no favoritism there, we are going to the guy that is going to be open."

Owens declined to discuss the situation on Thursday outside the Cowboys' locker room. As he walked toward the players' lounge at Valley Ranch, ESPN asked Owens if he would answer questions and he said, "Nope.''

Linebacker Bradie James acknowledged to ESPN that his status as one of the team captains has caused him to play a peacemaker role between Romo and Owens.

"Whenever the fire gets blazing, I know,'' James said. "Sometimes, I don't want to step on anybody's toes, but we all talk.

"It just is what it is ... It's just two different guys, two different personalities and they know what's at stake. They know that everybody needs them. And there's no dislike. It's just sometimes, not everybody is going to see eye to eye. That's what makes a football team.''

A current Cowboys player compared Owens' behavior to that which led to problems with his former quarterbacks, Jeff Garcia in San Francisco and Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia. Those failed relationships and problems with the head coaches and other teammates led to Owens' exile from those teams and made him available to Dallas owner Jerry Jones in 2006.

"He's insecure about it,'' the player said of Owens. "The thing that bothers me more than anything about this problem is that it's always something with him -- San Fran, Philly and here; always something. And he brings other people into it. You know, he talks to Sam Hurd and Roy Williams, who just got here and doesn't really know these guys. TO talks to him and so now he probably thinks Witten politics with Tony for the ball.

"That's so far from the truth. You think Tony is throwing to him because that's his buddy? His best buddy is Bobby Carpenter, and that's not helping him too much. It's crazy to think that, and I hate that he acts that way.''

Witten leads the Cowboys with 64 receptions to 55 for Owens, who has a team-high 848 receiving yards and nine touchdowns. According to one of the sources, Owens cannot fathom how Romo and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett justify the tight end having more catches than does Owens even though the latter ranks among the most accomplished receivers in NFL history.

There has so far been no known confrontation between Romo and Owens, who have combined for 33 touchdowns since 2006, the most of any quarterback-receiver tandem in the NFL during that time. Romo has always been careful to make certain Owens felt appreciated so that he would compete hard and not cause the kind of upheaval he did with his previous teams.

But one teammate suggested Romo is frustrated enough that he might initiate a different approach, although not the confrontational kind that some believe might solve the problem.

"To be completely honest, I just think Tony is over it; not like, "Screw it.' But I think Tony is over the mind games,'' the player said. "It would help if Tony would stand up to him, but he would never do it. He does a great job of ignoring it and not letting it affect him, and that's why it has worked as good as it has. It's just hard. I think right now everybody is to the point where, "We're going to need him, so let's not piss him off.''

But Owens seems to be finding it increasingly difficult to conceal his irritation. Last week in Pittsburgh, on the first possession of the Cowboys' most important game of the season, a team source who reviewed the game tape said Romo threw an interception when Owens mysteriously failed to complete his route. Troy Polamalu intercepted the ball at the place where Romo expected Owens to be. Later in the half, Romo underthrew a pass for Owens that was intercepted by Ike Taylor and Owens gestured openly in Romo's direction as he walked toward the sideline that the ball should have been thrown further upfield.

But what upset Owens' teammates most of all was his response to the interception Romo threw on a pass intended for Witten that Deshea Townsend returned for the game-winning touchdown in a 20-13 defeat. Both the quarterback and tight end publicly accepted blame for the Cowboys' season-high fifth turnover. In contrast, Owens said the offense stunk, that the team can't win with turnovers like those and then suggested his defender was playing off in single coverage and that he was open but Romo decided to throw elsewhere on the fatal play.

On the sideline, Owens was seen yelling at a Cowboys assistant coach. In his press conference after the game, Owens implied that Romo's decision to throw to Witten was the wrong one, saying, "It's his job to go out there and assess what the defense is, and he made that decision.''

That incensed some Cowboys, one of whom said, "If you only knew all that guy does. It's gonna go down with him before it's all over with. He is unbelievable. Tough loss and he does that?''

Until then, Cowboys insiders considered Owens' most damaging behavior the interview he did with former Cowboys cornerback Deion Sanders on the NFL Network in which he suggested Dallas' offensive system under Garrett was responsible for his worst statistical season since his rookie year with the 49ers. Owens also hinted that Romo and the other Dallas quarterbacks who played when the starter was injured were not making getting him the ball a high enough priority. "I can't throw it and catch it,'' Owens said.

At least one prominent Cowboys player was displeased that the coaching staff responded to the criticism by seemingly placating Owens in that Sunday's game against San Francisco, allowing him enough opportunities that he posted his best statistical line as a Cowboy: seven catches for 213 yards, including 75-yard TD.

"Well, TO got his way,'' the player said. "It never fails how we operate around here. Drives me crazy, but what can you do?''

Phillips justified Owens' argument by agreeing that getting him the ball needed to be the first offensive priority, and then owner Jerry Jones further empowered him by claiming he had no issue with anything Owens said in the interview.

Said another source: "What do you think he said after he complained about not getting the ball and then in the San Francisco game he gets 213? He said, 'Look. It works. The more hell I raise, the more I get what I want.' ''

Owens in March signed a four-year contract extension worth $34 million, including a $12.9 million signing bonus to bind him to the Cowboys through the 2011 season.

When asked if Romo and Owens were all right together as the team prepares to play the defending Super Bowl champion New York Giants on Sunday, James said, "Yeah. It's gotta be. It better be.''

The latest controversy comes toward the end of a season that began with Owens saying in training camp that he shared a relationship with Romo that he never had with other quarterbacks with whom he played. That, Owens said, was because Romo knew he was the star of the Cowboys and was not threatened by Owens' status as were previous quarterbacks.

"I guess sometimes I've just been in situations where the quarterbacks felt like I was bigger than them,'' Owens said in July. "And, you know, that was never the case. I felt like whatever I did complemented the quarterback, whatever he did, vice versa. It's just been a situation where things happen, where things didn't work out.''

Romo seemed equally at peace with Owens. "The thing about it is there's a genuine caring about each other. I actually want the guy to succeed. He works hard, he works his butt off. And he cares about the guys, so it's easy to root for a guy like that.

"It's important for us to be on the same page. It's important for us to care about the other one, just because our success is directly related. ... The thing you notice mostly about him is that he talks about 'team' a lot. He wants to win. He understands that, at this stage of his career, he's done all the things individually he can do. Now, it's just a matter of winning.''

Whether it is like that anymore -- and whether the Cowboys can achieve their own stated goals with the relationship between Owens and Romo and Witten being what it is now -- remains to be determined.

Since Romo became Dallas' starter, he has completed more passes to Witten than to Owens, 201-186, although Owens has significantly more yards and three times as many touchdowns.

"You really want to address it with him and say, "Are you serious? Let's cut the [sh--]. But we're trying to win our way into the playoffs and, if something like that happened, if you backed him into a corner, he'd be pissed off and try to fight you or something,'' the current Cowboys player said. "So what do you do? Let it go? Then you're just like everybody else. If he's got a problem and he's upset, clear the air. He should know that everything we do on offense goes through him."

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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 06:26:57 PM »
That clown never changes.

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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 07:41:26 PM »
I think TO should have been held more as a child because he has to be the most insecure person in the world.  There is no doubt he is racist and on top of that, he can't handle anyone getting the ball but him.  I really wouldn't mind if owners colluded against this jack ass.
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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 07:48:27 PM »
P.I.P. Wade Phillips.

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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 09:08:52 PM »
don;t buy into this bullshit espn conjecture story. i could go on about whats true and not, but it's worthless.

make it stop

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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 09:21:12 PM »
don;t buy into this bullshit espn conjecture story. i could go on about whats true and not, but it's worthless.

make it stop

I always went to ESPN and someother sites for my information but it seems that that you know more. Could you please tell us who the three anonymous players are who said that the story is true?
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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2008, 09:41:06 PM »
yea ill name you those 3 sources when you give me the source who knows said 3 sources

do you see what i'm getting at? Now we know ONE fact, someone was bitching about t.o. Could be anybody but you fail to see ed werder's and espn's blatant hype of the story. Lately whenever werder asks's t.o. a question in the locker room or press conference t.o. just blows him off and goes "next question" it's HILARIOUS. He's been doing this forever i'm not exactly certain why( i'm no t.o fan btw). Anyway when ed was the first to report the story, prior to that he asked t.o. "will you answer questions about the feud?" t.o. responded normally like he does with ED WERDER, with a "nope"<<<< that one remark is important. Ofcourse this one little moment gives espn ground to hype it to astronomical levels because t.o. wouldn't respond to the "situation"           (takes deep breath)

espn has become the fox news of sport

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2008, 10:02:07 PM »
and another thing....this is pathetic journalism....you don't devout 20 mins on sportscenter with "annonymous player sources" whether it was real people who said it or made up by espn, its just pathetic and lacks any smidge of integrity and throws any bit of credability out the window.

even a couple espn anchors don't buy it, if you've been watching

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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2008, 10:12:29 PM »
this is truely a sad sad story. First espn tried to overhype t.o's non-existant meltdown. When that failed they swiched momentum to t.o.'s comments about witten getting more catches, trying to make t.o. look like paranoid selfish bastard.

Once again: "annonymous sources" are saying t.o. thinks witten and romo are making up plays, NOT t.o.

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2008, 07:19:52 AM »
this is truely a sad sad story. First espn tried to overhype t.o's non-existant meltdown. When that failed they swiched momentum to t.o.'s comments about witten getting more catches, trying to make t.o. look like paranoid selfish bastard.

Once again: "annonymous sources" are saying t.o. thinks witten and romo are making up plays, NOT t.o.




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Re: This week's TO meltdown
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2008, 09:28:49 AM »

December 12, 2008

The rift between Dallas Cowboys stars Terrell Owens, Tony Romo and Jason Witten is wider than just those three players, a source inside the team's locker room told ESPN's Ed Werder on Friday.

The source told Werder that the majority of defensive players on the team support Owens' contention that Romo is overly reliant on Jason Witten and often throws into coverage trying to get him the ball while ignoring Owens in situation where he could make a play.

One starting player told Werder that "We are not together as a team, and that includes the coaches."

Dallas defensive back Terence Newman told ESPN's First Take on Friday that reports of a rift are blown out of proportion. Newman said that Owens hadn't said a bad word to anyone, and that, as a defensive player, he'd like Owens to get the ball more.

Newman said that offensive coordinator Jason Garrett has an open-door policy and both Romo and Witten, along with wide receiver Patrick Crayton, had been in to talk to their coach.

He also said that team chemistry is "great," but insinuated that when Cowboys' coaches make a mistake, they shift the blame to others and the players have noticed it.

In his weekly readio spot on 1310 "The Ticket" in Dallas, Jones said a meeting took place between Roy Williams, Crayton, Owens and offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. He said it was nothing out of the ordinary.

Cowboys wide receivers Terrell Owens, Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton requested and were granted a meeting with offensive coordinator Jason Garrett to express their concern that quarterback Tony Romo was relying too heavily on close friend and Pro Bowl tight end Jason Witten. blog.

"[Owens is] interested in the ball to win the game," Jones said. "He knows if he can get the ball, we have a better chance to win the game. We all agree with that."

Jones said that he visited with Owens for 10 or 15 minutes during practice on Thursday, but said the subject of the meeting with Garrett did not come up. "Not that he [Owens] feels slighted or he feels like there's some type of favoritism going on," Jones said.

Jones also said that Garrett encourages "continual communication."

Phillips said that reports that the team is in turmoil are untrue. "I don't agree," he said.

"Enough talking. We need to get it done," Phillips said.

The comments come a day after a source who speaks regularly with Owens' teammates told ESPN that Owens thinks Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates who came to Dallas in the same offseason -- hold private meetings and create plays without including Owens.

Owens believes these discussions have worked to his detriment and Romo seeks to deliver the ball to Witten regardless of whether Owens is open.

"I don't know anything about that," Phillips said when asked about a possible rift at his news conference on Thursday.

"We've thrown for a lot of yards with a lot of players. One receiver is pretty close to 1,000 yards. ... There's no favoritism there, we are going to the guy that is going to be open."

Owens declined to discuss the situation on Thursday outside the Cowboys' locker room. As he walked toward the players' lounge at Valley Ranch, ESPN asked Owens if he would answer questions and he said, "Nope.''

But later Thursday, Owens told The Dallas Morning News: "I'm not jealous of Witten. I'm not jealous of nobody. I can take the approach that I got paid, so screw everything, but that's not me.

 Dallas' Jason Witten discusses the latest controversy and says he doesn't think that Terrell Owens is feeling left out and that he and Tony Romo don't script plays together.

"I just want to win. I'm not trying to create a war of words with anybody. I thought we had a productive meeting, and I just talked to Jason about Tony reading the whole play because other people are open besides Witten."

Witten appeared Thursday afternoon on ESPNRadio 1050 in New York.

"Tony and I have been friends for a long time, way before either one of us were playing that much," Witten said. "I don't think we're drawing up many plays together to be completely honest, but I don't think Terrell feels that way. I think he knows he's a play-maker, and we try to go to him, and we have other guys we try to get the ball, too."

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Re: Cowboy controversy
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2008, 11:10:21 AM »
2NDCOMING, you're right, we shouldn't buy into this story. After all it's not Owens has ever caused this type of drama before..... ::)
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Re: Cowboy controversy
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2008, 04:05:27 PM »
Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones ended his self-imposed silence following his infamous Marion Barber comments from last Sunday to shed light on the latest drama at Valley Ranch on Friday.

Reports of a growing divide in the Cowboys' locker room continue to unfold, but Jones said it's all part of the club's cutting-edge "continual communication" program in which players are allowed to complain about each other without fear of retribution. Think of it as the Cowboys' whistle-blower rule.

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2008, 04:56:33 PM »
T.O is a total cancer, I have no idea how anyone can defend him.  T.O clearly has emotional issues......serious ones.

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Re: Cowboy controversy
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2008, 05:07:09 PM »
T.O is a total cancer, I have no idea how anyone can defend him.  T.O clearly has emotional issues......serious ones.

Exactly. Another attention whore, who hates it when people aren't talking about him. How's he gonna handle retirement?
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2008, 05:19:12 PM »
Exactly. Another attention whore, who hates it when people aren't talking about him. How's he gonna handle retirement?

Whos thats asshole who played for the 72 phins?  That's TO in 10 years.

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Re: Cowboy controversy
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2008, 06:11:30 PM »
Whos thats asshole who played for the 72 phins?  That's TO in 10 years.

You mean Mercury Morris. Mercury was always the one down talking the patriots and how they would have destroyed the pats if they would have played his 72' Dolphins.
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2008, 06:15:13 PM »
You mean Mercury Morris. Mercury was always the one down talking the patriots and how they would have destroyed the pats if they would have played his 72' Dolphins.


Thats the guy....I dont hate him because he talked down to the pats ( even thought they would have dropped 52 points on the 72 phins), he's just a loudmouth who reminds me of an old T.O.

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Re: Cowboy controversy
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2008, 06:17:27 PM »
Current Giants team reminds of the '72 Dolphins in many ways.

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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2008, 06:27:55 PM »

Thats the guy....I dont hate him because he talked down to the pats ( even thought they would have dropped 52 points on the 72 phins), he's just a loudmouth who reminds me of an old T.O.
The Pats went 18-0 and lost the Superbowl and the 72' Dolphins went 12-0 and won the superbowl but how many playoff games did they win? Were they a total of 15-0 and plus? Mercury still talks like 18-0 is not that hard to achieve.
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2008, 06:38:06 PM »
2NDCOMING, you're right, we shouldn't buy into this story. After all it's not Owens has ever caused this type of drama before..... ::)

what has owens said to the media this week? shit. Espn went out of they're way to overhype nothing. He was angry after the loss because it was a big game. They had the game locked up, look how romo fucked it up, look at there schedule. Btw, check how many times romo threw it to wittens and tell me if ownes has a beef. nevermind don't, your too busy fucking around on G/O when you should be babysitting your kids, what are u like 35 man? get a life

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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2008, 08:53:26 PM »
T.O is a total cancer, I have no idea how anyone can defend him.  T.O clearly has emotional issues......serious ones.
He's the Gary Sheffield of pro football.

For a guy who claims to be secure in himself, he sure acts like a child a lot.  He needs to be the center of attention all the time or else.  This seems to be a big problem with WR and RB in the league.
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Re: Cowboy controversy
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2008, 09:10:31 PM »


Ex-QB understands Owens' frustrations but can relate to Romo's decisions


In the waning seconds of the Cowboys' fall-from-ahead loss to the Steelers ... after Tony Romo's pick-six interception ... and after his fourth-down incompletion to an unsuspecting Jason Witten, Fox's Troy Aikman and Joe Buck had this on-air discussion:

(Meanwhile, Fox cameras were glued to Terrell Owens yakking animatedly at receivers coach Ray Sherman.)

Aikman: "... Pretty interesting that two key moments in this game, the last two possessions, [Romo's] trying to get the ball to Witten. The one for the interception that gave Pittsburgh the go-ahead-touchdown, and then on this one, Witten is never looking for the ball, and I'm not sure exactly why. He's well down the field and never expected the ball to come in his direction."

Buck: "And that's really the more interesting point. Not only was Romo looking for Witten on two key throws, but both times Romo and Witten were not on the same page."

Aikman: "And they are two guys who throughout this season have always been on the same page."

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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2008, 09:40:04 AM »
The Pats went 18-0 and lost the Superbowl and the 72' Dolphins went 12-0 and won the superbowl but how many playoff games did they win? Were they a total of 15-0 and plus? Mercury still talks like 18-0 is not that hard to achieve.


They also did it against a schedule that was easier than what the pats had, and most of the games were in good weather (Miami home games).  Pats did it in Foxboro, they won in poor weather....in an NFL with a salary cap, where team are much closer in talent.  The 72 phins would be destroyed by the 07 pats.  I doubt you see 16-0 in the regular season anytime soon.  The players were smaller and slower in the 70's; the pats would have won by 5 scores,imo.  Yes, the 07 pats lost the big one, but to win 18 straight games the way they did, is any amazing feat.

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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2008, 09:52:14 AM »

They also did it against a schedule that was easier than what the pats had, and most of the games were in good weather (Miami home games).  Pats did it in Foxboro, they won in poor weather....in an NFL with a salary cap, where team are much closer in talent.  The 72 phins would be destroyed by the 07 pats.  I doubt you see 16-0 in the regular season anytime soon.  The players were smaller and slower in the 70's; the pats would have won by 5 scores,imo.  Yes, the 07 pats lost the big one, but to win 18 straight games the way they did, is any amazing feat.

That's the view of someone with absolutely no objectivity. First of all the Dolphins were a better version of the Giants team that beat NE, so obviously it would be close to begin with. Secondly the rules then were a little different, not as easy to throw the ball through most of the 70s.

No way to know what would have happened, other than to guess it would have been close, could go either way like last year's SB.

NE last year reminded me of the 49ers when they tried for their 3rd straight SB; they became a little too one-dimensional, too much reliance on passing.