Training Vs Diet % 50/50 70/30 90/10?

[Balloon]

In your opinion, taking "rest" out of the equation....give a percentage to diet and training....
How important are these two factors in your bodybulding quest...

For me, Diet 70% at LEAST.

My gains always come when i pay attention to macronutrient ratios and meal timing.
I have gone months training with high intensity, and seen no change in my body, then i pay attention to diet...
the gains start coming.

It's my belief that food is the best way to alter my physique

So for me 70% diet 30% training

[LatsMcGee]

85% diet. 

[BFP]

Im finding it to be 70/30 or greater as well. Little dietary changes have made big improvements for me as I march on to the Ron Avidan Classic IV title.

Jason

[England_1]

both are equally important

[Mars]

i think there should be more emphasis on training then diet after years of natural training.

[bigmc]

diet is at least 70 percent of he equation

especially if you are natural

genetics aside if you eat like shit you will look like shit

[JasonH]

I would say diet at 70 or 80%.

[wes]

diet = 75
training = 25

[MAXX]

you need both. so i guess 50/50. if one is lacking it doesn't matter how good you're at the other.

[Fatpanda]

diet - 40
gear - 40
lifting - 20

[bigmc]

diet - 40
gear - 40
lifting - 20

you still here twink

[Knives]

80-90% training

i've never seen anyone who ate well but trained like a sissy with a good physique

likewise i've seen people who ate crap but trained balls to the wall develop impressively

[Fatpanda]

you still here twink

hahahahahahaha stalking me from thread to thread all over getbig  

i must really have owned you bad to have created this stalking monster.

[bigmc]

hahahahahahaha stalking me from thread to thread all over getbig  

i must really have owned you bad to have created this stalking monster.

hahahaha meltdown

you haven't recovered

[MAXX]

80-90% training

i've never seen anyone who ate well but trained like a sissy with a good physique

likewise i've seen people who ate crap but trained balls to the wall develop impressively

i think mostly it's bullshit. they just like to give a shine of eating like crap. like Meso for example.

if they do eat crap and still look impressive they are on gear.

[Mars]

yeah diet is overrated in bodybuilding also, how often you dont see guys who look great but never heard of eating protein.

[MAXX]

yeah diet is overrated in bodybuilding also, how often you dont see guys who look great but never heard of eating protein.

never.

[Cleanest Natural]

Diet is everything ... the training only provides a stimulus. You can just go to the gym and lift whatever with no rules or order and complete disregard for form and rep schemes even chat between sets , but if you got the genetics, tight diet and hormones you WILL grow. I'll go on a diet and hormones and pic exercises and musclegroups 3 times a week by shooting darts blindfolded and will GUARRANTEE you that I'll look 10 x better than someone who eats like shit.

[Mars]

i always have a laugh when i see these stupid diets in flex, now i eat like normal people do and still maintain weight and make progress, without the monster protein intake and these shitty supplements.

[Fatpanda]

Diet is everything ... the training only provides a stimulus. You can just go to the gym and lift whatever with no rules or order and complete disregard for form and rep schemes even chat between sets , but if you got the genetics, tight diet and hormones you WILL grow. I'll go on a diet and hormones and pic exercises and musclegroups 3 times a week by shooting darts blindfolded and will GUARRANTEE you that I'll look 10 x better than someone who eats like shit.

i agree with everything apart from the genetics part as i believe that has 0% influence.

[Cleanest Natural]

No genetics = no body building

[Fatpanda]

No drugs = no body building

fixed 

[tommywishbone]

I'll go with 75% diet and 25% training. As long as your clean. Step on the gas and everything changes.

[MuscleMcMannus]

 Haha.  Diet 80-90%?  Just take a look at any jail.  There are plenty of big and strong dudes who eat like shit.  But they also get a shit load of rest and have zero stress for the most part.  So who's to say recovery (most often overlooked aspect of bodybuilding) is any less important than nutrition or training.  In fact genetics being equal I'd say training and recovery are more important than nutrition.  You can't live on twinkies and expect to grow muscle.  But you sure as hell don't have to pretent the human body is a delicate flower that needs a perfect combination and ratio of nutrients, calories etc.  The body is one big filter.  Throw at it what you want and it's pretty good at using what it needs.  Most of these high protein intakes are overkill and a waste of money.  They came about through high drug use.

Let's put it this way........take two people..............have them train and rest perfectly.  Throw at them whatever the hell you want in terms of food, ratios etc.  You telling me they aren't going to grow?  Take the same two people and have them eat PERFECTLY without training and perfect recovery.  They won't build shit as far as muscle.  If it was all diet there would be lots of peope walking around with loads of muscle and strength.  

[Mons Venus]

Haha.  Diet 80-90%?  Just take a look at any jail.  There are plenty of big and strong dudes who eat like shit.  But they also get a shit load of rest and have zero stress for the most part.  So who's to say recovery (most often overlooked aspect of bodybuilding) is any less important than nutrition or training.  In fact genetics being equal I'd say training and recovery are more important than nutrition.