Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!

[England_1]

Damn, Ronnie even at his best here is so fucking owned hahah....it's like half his back is missing when compared to Yates. Also, Yates would DWARF Coleman.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Same goes for pics of Ronnie.  We aren't talking about the ASC only the O.  Ronnie doesn't win the Front lat, back double and back lat in all the pics.

he doesn't win ANY poses technically seeing all rounds are physique rounds , that means ALL of the criteria is assessed in every poses from every angle , including muscular bulk , balance & proportion , density & dryness , posing & presentation ...so while Ronnie beats Dorian in PART(S) of this criteria he doesn't beat him in all ......Dorian never lost a symmetry round despite never being the most ' symmetrical ' bodybuilder and why? All rounds are physique rounds

[NarcissisticDeity]

Damn, Ronnie even at his best here is so fucking owned hahah....it's like half his back is missing when compared to Yates. Also, Yates would DWARF Coleman.

I know that was a retarded comparison lol 1997 VS 1998 and Dorian still beat him lol

[delta9mda]

talk your shit about biceps, ronnie is missing a rhomboid and his lat under that left side is noticeably smaller.

[NeoSeminole]

Same goes for pics of Ronnie.  We aren't talking about the ASC only the O.  Ronnie doesn't win the Front lat, back double and back lat in all the pics.

I have no problem posting pics of Ronnie. I'm one of the main contributors of new Ronnie pics, and I've been posting shots of him in this thread. I haven't seen you post any of Dorian. I don't know why we can't talk about Ronnie's 01 ASC showing. It makes no sense if we are discussing best physiques. Furthermore, you never answered what contest you consider to be Flex's, Levrone's, and Cormier's prime.

[NeoSeminole]

Damn, Ronnie even at his best here is so fucking owned hahah....it's like half his back is missing when compared to Yates. Also, Yates would DWARF Coleman.

you do realize that the comparison is not scaled properly? Dorian is taller despite being 1" shorter in person. Also, Dorian weighs 20 lbs more than Ronnie yet they look about the same size. The only part of Dorian that dwarfs Ronnie is his waist.

[Hulkster]

hey buffD, try and find us a dorian lat spread that can match this.

you won't, since as you can see here, even 93 and 95 (dorian's two best years) get crushed.

its going to be pretty easy owning the best pics the dorian side has to offer.

after all, we have been doing this for years already.

all they can do is cry fake, photoshop, you had to see dorian in person etc etc etc lol 

[Hulkster]

^
ouch. when you compare dorian to ronnie, ronnie is so good he makes it look like dorian doesn't even train his arms, chest or quads...

[BuffD]

you do realize that the comparison is not scaled properly? Dorian is taller despite being 1" shorter in person. Also, Dorian weighs 20 lbs more than Ronnie yet they look about the same size. The only part of Dorian that dwarfs Ronnie is his waist.

It's funny how you use pics to try to prove your point. I guarantee that pretty much every pic on the net is touched up one way or another.  Either by making them darker, brighter or sharper.  Judging by pics is pointless.  It's impossible to say which one is better.  The sport is subjective and that's the whole problem with bodybuilding.  It will never change. Personally I dont like either physique.  I think Haney was better than both despite having smaller legs and smaller arms.  His shape was far better, he had very good conditioning and was a good poser.  He had the same amount of Mr O wins as Ronnie and he did beat Dorian which Ronnie never did.  Dorian had his flaws as did Ronnie.  But this is my opinion just like all of you posting here.  Pics are not proof of anything.  We all can see what we want to see in a pic.  I personally think Dorian looks better in that front lat spread even though he doesn't have as much quad seperation.

[Hulkster]

It's funny how you use pics to try to prove your point. I guarantee that pretty much every pic on the net is touched up one way or another.  Either by making them darker, brighter or sharper.  Judging by pics is pointless.

here we go again...

dorian gets his ass handed to him by peak (not mid 90's) ronnie all the time and all of a sudden pics don't matter, all are faked, pointless etc etc.

 


when you are idiots going to stop with the bullshit excuses and admit what is real?

dorian was not as good as ronnie eventually became.

period.

the bullshit excuses about how the comparisons don't matter, are faked, touched up, pointless etc. is really embarassing, to be honest.

its old, pathetic, completely untrue and sad.

sorry but its true...this sport is based on visual comparisons. just because your hero doesn't stack up to what ronnie became does not mean they are all invalid all of a sudden..

if it was the other way around (ronnie was getting killed) I guarentee NONE of you nuthuggers would be saying any of this.

but since dorian gets crushed, its all you can do...

[England_1]

Dorian was so dominating that Flex had to make up a story to sit out the 97O bwahahahaha....and then came back and damn near beat Ronnie at his all time best. Kevin also confirmed on here that Dorian was better.

[BuffD]

here we go again...

dorian gets his ass handed to him by peak (not mid 90's) ronnie all the time and all of a sudden pics don't matter, all are faked, pointless etc etc.

 


when you are idiots going to stop with the bullshit excuses and admit what is real?

dorian was not as good as ronnie eventually became.

period.

the bullshit excuses about how the comparisons don't matter, are faked, touched up, pointless etc. is really embarassing, to be honest.

its old, pathetic, completely untrue and sad.

sorry but its true...this sport is based on visual comparisons. just because your hero doesn't stack up to what ronnie became does not mean they are all invalid all of a sudden..

if it was the other way around (ronnie was getting killed) I guarentee NONE of you nuthuggers would be saying any of this.

but since dorian gets crushed, its all you can do...

ALL PICS ARE TOUCHED UP EVEN DORIANS!  Pics do not matter.  If they did then why go on stage.  Just show pics up on screen and judge that way    Like I said I don't think either was the best ever.  Oh and Ronnie does get killed in several pics and guess what?  It doesn't matter either because you cannot make a fair judgment based on pics.

[Hulkster]

wrong.

don't you understand that dorian at his best never stood on the same stage at the same time as ronnie at his best?

duh.

 this discussion (and others) is focused on which one would win if that had happened.

since we don't have a time machine and teleport machine, visual pics/videos are all we have to go by..

 

so in this context, pics are very important.

I am so glad smart people are on this board to explain basic shit like this to the nuthuggers.

they would be so lost without us..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

hey buffD, try and find us a dorian lat spread that can match this.

you won't, since as you can see here, even 93 and 95 (dorian's two best years) get crushed.

its going to be pretty easy owning the best pics the dorian side has to offer.

after all, we have been doing this for years already.

all they can do is cry fake, photoshop, you had to see dorian in person etc etc etc lol 

Thanks for playing 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ALL PICS ARE TOUCHED UP EVEN DORIANS!  Pics do not matter.  If they did then why go on stage.  Just show pics up on screen and judge that way    Like I said I don't think either was the best ever.  Oh and Ronnie does get killed in several pics and guess what?  It doesn't matter either because you cannot make a fair judgment based on pics.

Great post ! objective honest and unbiased

[Camel Jockey]

I think Ronnie > Dorian, but Dorian's back is probably the best of all time due the placement of the muscles and the incredible size and thickness. Ronnie destroys Dorian, but talking about the strictly the back double biceps shot Dorian wins hands down.

[England_1]

Ronnie "no lats" Coleman hahahaha

[webcake]

two completely different angles. Camera is looking down to Ronnie, looking up to Dorian. Unfair comparison.....

[NarcissisticDeity]

two completely different angles. Camera is looking down to Ronnie, looking up to Dorian. Unfair comparison.....

yeah because every comparison they post is dead accurate 

[bigguns23]

Thanks for playing 

no no no.....Thank you!!!

[NarcissisticDeity]

no no no.....Thank you!!!

lmfao that bloated mess , density sucks , dryness sucks ,  balance sucks , proportion sucks

see fail

[bigguns23]

lmfao that bloated mess , density sucks , dryness sucks ,  balance sucks , proportion sucks

see fail

So your opinion is gospel all of a sudden?

[NarcissisticDeity]

So your opinion is gospel all of a sudden?

You think he's his best conditioned and balanced in those pics? if that's the case my opinion isn't gospel just correct compared to yours

2001 Arnold Classic is considered his best for a reason

[prof]

You think he's his best conditioned and balanced in those pics? if that's the case my opinion isn't gospel just correct compared to yours

2001 Arnold Classic is considered his best for a reason

In those pics, he brought size to a whole new level---and you have to respect that.

He is over three-hundred pounds and has cuts and striations everywhere.

Nobody on this planet has ever been as big and ripped.

[NarcissisticDeity]

In those pics, he brought size to a whole new level---and you have to respect that.

He is over three-hundred pounds and has cuts and striations everywhere.

Nobody on this planet has ever been as big and ripped.

cuts & striations everywhere? lol not quote he's massive with good conditioning for that size , his density & dryness pale in comparison to 1998/2001 his balance & proportion are way off tilt again compared to his previous showings , size for the sake of size is useless