is golf a sport?

[Joel_A]

I'm leaning towards 'no.'

what do you guys think?

[tonymctones]

for the love not this shit again...

yes its a sport, look up the definition of sport

why do you think its not?

[Joel_A]

for the love not this shit again...

yes its a sport, look up the definition of sport

why do you think its not?

the main reason i lean towards 'no' is because as an opponent, you are not allowed to 'interact' or defend anything. shit, you can't even cough or clear your throat for that matter.

i consider it a skill, not a sport. webster might say otherwise, but there's my 2 cents anyway.


i cannot see john daly as an 'athlete.' he's won a couple majors.

[body88]

the main reason i lean towards 'no' is because as an opponent, you are not allowed to 'interact' or defend anything. shit, you can't even cough or clear your throat for that matter.

i consider it a skill, not a sport. webster might say otherwise, but there's my 2 cents anyway.


i cannot see john daly as an 'athlete.' he's won a couple majors.

Does Prince Fielder look like and athlete?  How about Babe Ruth, or Glen Big Baby Davis?  Bodybuilder look like athletes, but they have little to no athletic skill, and are pageant contestants.  With Golf it's subjective, imo.

[Joel_A]

Does Prince Fielder look like and athlete?  How about Babe Ruth, or Glen Big Baby Davis?  Bodybuilder look like athletes, but they have little to no athletic skill, and are pageant contestants.  With Golf it's subjective, imo.

i see your point. sumo wrestlers dont exactly have an athletic 'look' but they definitely are athletes.

fielder isnt so bad, not worse than tony gwynn.

[The Coach]

the main reason i lean towards 'no' is because as an opponent, you are not allowed to 'interact' or defend anything. shit, you can't even cough or clear your throat for that matter.

i consider it a skill, not a sport. webster might say otherwise, but there's my 2 cents anyway.


i cannot see john daly as an 'athlete.' he's won a couple majors.

Yes Earl, it's a sport.

[Joel_A]

Yes Earl, it's a sport.

sure

[tonymctones]

the main reason i lean towards 'no' is because as an opponent, you are not allowed to 'interact' or defend anything. shit, you can't even cough or clear your throat for that matter.

i consider it a skill, not a sport. webster might say otherwise, but there's my 2 cents anyway.


i cannot see john daly as an 'athlete.' he's won a couple majors.

you cant directly interact in track and field either but that was part of the base of the olympics, swimming but apparently winning 8 gold medals in swimming is a great accomplishment. In every sport you will have ppl who dont look like atheletes, shaq is an over grown fat ass, big pappi = fat ass, the majority of offensive linemen in football that doesnt mean they arent athletic in their own right.

[ATHEIST]

I would say no. nothing they do is athletic what so ever.

[tonymctones]

I would say no. nothing they do is athletic what so ever.

hahah clearly you have never drove a ball 300+ yds on a consistent basis

[Earl1972]

golf and bodybuilding are both sports

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[ATHEIST]

hahah clearly you have never drove a ball 300+ yds on a consistent basis

 that does not support your stance on golfers being athletes. further more using pure distance of a drive as your argument to support that action as athletic is very limited. A guy can throw a football using the proper mechanics farther than an NFL QB, but that doesnt make him an athlete alone.

 also let me re-phrase my first post on this thread; golf maybe a sport to some people, but golfers are not althetes. I know this thread questioned golf as a sport, the term athletes was not involved.
 

[CalvinH]

When I lug my bag around and walk the course-yes
When I take a cart and drink a 12 pack-no

[tonymctones]

that does not support your stance on golfers being athletes. further more using pure distance of a drive as your argument to support that action as athletic is very limited. A guy can throw a football using the proper mechanics farther than an NFL QB, but that doesnt make him an athlete alone.

 also let me re-phrase my first post on this thread; golf maybe a sport to some people, but golfers are not althetes. I know this thread questioned golf as a sport, the term athletes was not involved.
 

what person do you know can throw a football as far as a pro qb? LOL

yes it is very limiting there are other factors to put into it, balance, strength, speed are just a few that go into every golf swing. Ill agree that its not a very athletic sport but to say you dont have to be athletic to play is ignorant especially at the highest level like tiger.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/athlete
athlete: A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

So yes they are athletes and yes it is a sport.

[ATHEIST]

what person do you know can throw a football as far as a pro qb? LOL

 surely you do not think there are people out there who can not throw the ball farther or harder than Chad Pennington. are they then labled an athlete?  this statement i made was to highlight the fact that solely driving a golf ball 300 yards does not qualify one an athlete as you did. nor does any other part of the golf game IMO.

yes it is very limiting there are other factors to put into it, balance, strength, speed are just a few that go into every golf swing. Ill agree that its not a very athletic sport but to say you dont have to be athletic to play is ignorant especially at the highest level like tiger.

the factors you mention are also applied in other contests like bowling, they are athletes i guess?
 
 i know his name was brought up before but John Daly is not an athlete and he played at an elite level. as far as Tiger goes, nothing he has done on the golf course would lead me to include him in company of the other great athletes. He is certainly very great at what he does.
 
 By including golfers in the category of "athlete" i assume you use the term very loosely.

 

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/athlete
athlete: A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

So yes they are athletes and yes it is a sport.

  every bowler should carry a card that has this printed on it

[tonymctones]

surely you do not think there are people out there who can not throw the ball farther or harder than Chad Pennington. are they then labled an athlete?  this statement i made was to highlight the fact that solely driving a golf ball 300 yards does not qualify one an athlete as you did. nor does any other part of the golf game IMO.
the factors you mention are also applied in other contests like bowling, they are athletes i guess?

I understand that as i can drive the ball 300+ yds but not every single time and i certainly cant place it wherever i want it and the same could be said for a person who might be able to throw a football as far as pennington...

i know his name was brought up before but John Daly is not an athlete and he played at an elite level. as far as Tiger goes, nothing he has done on the golf course would lead me to include him in company of the other great athletes. He is certainly very great at what he does.
 
By including golfers in the category of "athlete" i assume you use the term very loosely.

every bowler should carry a card that has this printed on it

LOL i used the term loosely? i used the term as it is defined 

Everybody brings up john daily but when you look at the majority of the elite golfers which by the way john daily is not they are in very good shape and

If you want to define it, then go ahead but then you cant apply it to a certain sport in general I wouldnt consider big pappi an athlete either would you?

[ATHEIST]

I understand that as i can drive the ball 300+ yds but not every single time and i certainly cant place it wherever i want it and the same could be said for a person who might be able to throw a football as far as pennington...

again only to argument your original rebuttal towards my statement; there are people out there who are not athletes that can consistently throw a football farther than Chad Pennington. He is a good qb though and an athlete.
Accomplishing something for distance only does not justify one as an athlete.

LOL i used the term loosely? i used the term as it is defined

everything is not as black and white as you see them. By your accepted definition bowlers, members of a marching band and bodybuilders are athletes then correct? they all fall under the criteria you accept.

Everybody brings up john daily but when you look at the majority of the elite golfers which by the way john daily is not they are in very good shape and

Firstly;John Daly is brought up because he is not an athlete and a huge monkey wrench in your theory. And at one time in his career was an elite player of golf(you are aware of this im certain) and yet not an athlete under more critical terms.
Secondly;

look at the majority of the elite golfers which by the way john daily is not they are in very good shape

it is possible to look like an athlete and not be one.

I wouldnt consider big pappi an athlete either would you?

you consider a John Daly or a Phil Mickleson an athlete but not Big Pappi? Big Pappi does things that most people who "look" like athletes can not come close to doing.

[body88]

golf and bodybuilding are both sports

E

Earl, my man, you are mistaken!  If you remove the word bodybuilding from your statement, and also the letter s from the word sports, you are 100% correct 

[tonymctones]

alright in the hopes of not creating novel sized post i wont quote everything

Ive had this arguement so many times its retarded the same thing with golf being a sport

Define athlete for me i mean what your definition is of an athlete...dollars to donuts some of the ppl you think of as athletes wouldnt be considered athletes by your definition...and we will go back to the original definition of athlete.

my point was that if you dont consider john daly a athlete then you cant consider big pappi an athlete.

[ATHEIST]

bodybuilding is not a sport. the end

[webcake]

Yes, Golf is a sport.

I like golf. I'm pretty average, but damn it, i try!! 

[tonymctones]

not to get off track but just curious whats an average score for the golfing getbigger?

ive gotten down to mid to high 80's but would probably be in the high 90's now.

[body88]

alright in the hopes of not creating novel sized post i wont quote everything

Ive had this arguement so many times its retarded the same thing with golf being a sport

Define athlete for me i mean what your definition is of an athlete...dollars to donuts some of the ppl you think of as athletes wouldnt be considered athletes by your definition...and we will go back to the original definition of athlete.

my point was that if you dont consider john daly a athlete then you cant consider big pappi an athlete.

I consider Daly an athlete and I understand that looking like an athlete can (at times) have little to do with how good of an a person is.  Thats the problem with bb's and bodybuilding.  It's all based on looks (pageant), and they cant get over that a pudgy dude could be a world class athlete.  Not a single pro bb could make it any level of pro sports.  Shit, most hs athletes would tool on them.

[OzmO]

How could golf not be considered a sport?

 

[webcake]

How could golf not be considered a sport?

 

People claim it doesn't really require any athletic ability.

I can agree with this, sort of. My grandfather is 86 and plays golf a couple of times a week.....