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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2009, 07:18:36 AM »

The price of a ticket for a concert is sky high now.  That is how they are recouping the album sale losses.  ACDC starts at $95,  My aunt paid $175 for Metallica.  Fuck that.  I will download anything I want. However I do have sympathy for the struggling independent people that sell their own cd's at shows but only if they are worthy.  Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2009, 07:28:33 AM »

I mostly download stuff I would never buy, or cant buy (almost 20 year old PC games for example) so I dont feel bad. I dont ever download music.
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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2009, 07:39:04 AM »

How often do record companies expect us to buy the same piece of music?  If you bought an album they put out a cassette tape; if you buy a cassette tape they put out a CD; now they are selling digital downloads.  And each time they change formats they raise the price.

Granted Im rationalizing, but Im not buying music anymore.  The last CD I bought was in 2001, but I download/share music almost every day.  I would have no qualms about sharing a CD with a friend of mine so he could copy/rip it; file sharing is the same thing.
Good points. I rarely buy cd's anymore. I just share. I figure the recording industry has been ripping off customers for decades while at the same time beggaring artists (read: blues) through shitty deals. The music industry is a slimy, nasty one that will eat its own given the chance - Fuck'em.   Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2009, 07:44:01 AM »

If I have my laptop with me when I visit family or computer friends I survey their CD collections and rip away to my hearts content.  Then I come home and transfer all the ripped music files to my main computer.  I also share my CD collects with friends so it's all reciprocal.

Ripping from CDs is much better than file sharing networks because you can rip the files according to settings you specify and you can do the entire CD.  File sharing networks tend to only have the most popular songs from a given album.  Sad
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2009, 09:02:49 AM »

Yeah, those musicians and authors are starving in their mansions with champagne on the double served by some British Butler.

All file sharing is simply sharing amongst fans of a chosen line. The reason Metallica is so popular is because of file sharing through torrents that allowed all kinds of people to hear their music, despite them being to uptight about it.

What these pussies are doing is further stripping us of our freedoms for their all out of selfishness. The thing is that lack of file sharing wont always lead to higher revenues.

Look, if I have something and want to share it with people, who's to stop me? It's natural and if these idiots have problems with it then fuck them. Fuck them for not adopting with the times. Fuck them for being near socialists druggies who need to find excuses to meet the decline in the quality of their music(Metallica).

And what if someone downloads DVD-rips of IFBB Pros' videos??!!! Or a Lou pic?!! Don't you think you take out the bread from their kids' mouth?!!  Angry
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2009, 09:11:49 AM »

And what if someone downloads DVD-rips of IFBB Pros' videos??!!! Or a Lou pic?!! Don't you think you take out the bread from their kids' mouth?!!  Angry

Why split hairs?  I'm consistent in my unethical file sharing:  I'll rip, share, and download music files, hollywood DVDs, bodybuilding DVDs, gay muscle porn, or anything else.  I rip the DVDs I get from Netflix all the time. Cool
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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2009, 09:18:26 AM »

You don't need to worry.

You can always claim to have an open WLAN. Then everyone can get access to your router and it's impossible to tell who did the d/l.

RIAA lost the battle against p2p already. Routers keep a log by default, could be required.


Yes.....  my SSID is "linksys".  WEP?? What's that?

the ssid is the "name" of your router, you should turn it off and wep is the encryption. Id recommend you to use wpa, wep is already fucked, i personally like to use wpa psk
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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2009, 09:21:58 AM »

The RIAA has officially ended personal suits now and has targeted ISP companies with complying, so you don't need to worry, except your ISP will warn you if you share A LOT.  Also you can find songs not on bearshare or limewire by using torrents like isohunt and look for specific albums etc.

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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2009, 09:22:41 AM »

IPOD question:

I was listening to my IPOD the other day..it sounded fine, then all of a sudden it's not very loud and seems like there is no bass.  I tried to remedy this in "settings" but nothing is working although I really didn't know what I was doing as I don't have my directions w/me.  Also, could my earphones have gone bad?  Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2009, 09:24:28 AM »

IPOD question:

I was listening to my IPOD the other day..it sounded fine, then all of a sudden it's not very loud and seems like there is no bass.  I tried to remedy this in "settings" but nothing is working although I really didn't know what I was doing as I don't have my directions w/me.  Also, could my earphones have gone bad?  Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Smiley

Wrong thread.  Angry
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2009, 09:25:18 AM »

IPOD question:

I was listening to my IPOD the other day..it sounded fine, then all of a sudden it's not very loud and seems like there is no bass.  I tried to remedy this in "settings" but nothing is working although I really didn't know what I was doing as I don't have my directions w/me.  Also, could my earphones have gone bad?  Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Smiley

yes more likely the earphones = rip (one cable is disconnected probably).

If its not the earphones, try resetting the ipod, if that doesnt fix it, i guess your ipod is worth us$1 then

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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2009, 09:25:51 AM »

Wrong thread.  Angry
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2009, 09:26:21 AM »

pretty soon the industry will stop targeting end users of p2p software and go after the ISP's.  Many of the ISP's are throwing around the idea of download caps of 5-25gb/month.
Packet id's will flag users and ISP's will start terminating shit.
Good luck pirating when that happens.  
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2009, 09:27:01 AM »

yes more likely the earphones = rip (one cable is disconnected probably).

If its not the earphones, try resetting the ipod, if that doesnt fix it, i guess your ipod is worth us$1 then

when are you sending me pictures Sad
YAY!  See Bay? Angry

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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2009, 09:32:33 AM »

pretty soon the industry will stop targeting end users of p2p software and go after the ISP's.  Many of the ISP's are throwing around the idea of download caps of 5-25gb/month.
Packet id's will flag users and ISP's will start terminating shit.
Good luck pirating when that happens.  


When that happens we'll just share in a more localized fashion: directly between friends, at coffee shops, cafes, and public parks with wifi.  Kids will do it in high school and college.  True, it may be harder to directly share files with folks in say, Tokyo, but they are never going to be able to stop people from file sharing.
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2009, 09:32:55 AM »

pretty soon the industry will stop targeting end users of p2p software and go after the ISP's.  Many of the ISP's are throwing around the idea of download caps of 5-25gb/month.
Packet id's will flag users and ISP's will start terminating shit.
Good luck pirating when that happens.  


1.- they already stopped
2.- the dl limit is already enforced in some isps, you just dont know it because you dont download enough and no im not joking
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2009, 09:36:30 AM »

Download everything, but buy those things you really like.
Still theft but the good folks can still keep on doing good stuff.
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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2009, 09:37:28 AM »

I download and delete probably about 100gb a month,

yeah, it feels good to be a gangster.
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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2009, 09:50:04 AM »

i use itunes and pay $1 per song.  Mainly because most of those free companies like limewire, bearshare, winmx, etc kept installing bullshit on my computer Sad

I do too. Im an adult, with a job, and if i cannot afford a dollar for a song, or 10 bucks for a CD, then I probably need to be doing better things with my time, like looking for a better job.

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« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2009, 10:01:05 AM »

I do too. Im an adult, with a job, and if i cannot afford a dollar for a song, or 10 bucks for a CD, then I probably need to be doing better things with my time, like looking for a better job.

Jason

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How about if I just don't want to pay?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2009, 10:02:29 AM »

i use itunes and pay $1 per song.  Mainly because most of those free companies like limewire, bearshare, winmx, etc kept installing bullshit on my computer Sad

Use torrents. They're very safe and the scope of the stuff available far exceeds anything from Bearshare or any of the other bullshit. 
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2009, 10:02:37 AM »

When that happens we'll just share in a more localized fashion: directly between friends, at coffee shops, cafes, and public parks with wifi.  Kids will do it in high school and college.  True, it may be harder to directly share files with folks in say, Tokyo, but they are never going to be able to stop people from file sharing.

I work for a large ISP and even small municipality wireless networks are monitored for use and abuse.

College networks like the metro ethernet circuit at RIT that we run are monitored.  File sharing from one dorm room to another is visible on our end.

1.- they already stopped
2.- the dl limit is already enforced in some isps, you just dont know it because you dont download enough and no im not joking

Actually benz, I do know about the bandwidth caps.  I'm CCNA and CWNA.  It's really not the download that you have to worry about either.  You are more likely to get flagged for excessive upload.  Penalties for distribution of pirated material is what they are looking for.  P2P users often turn off their UL or lower it (bandwidth throttling) to try and optimize their usage.  Verizon has a 5gb cap on their air cards, and Frontier is tossing around the idea of a 5gb total dl+ul cap for users not including packets used for services like online hard drive backup from Carbonite or movie dl from netflix.  Time warner monitors packets and will cut your speed if you are a heavy downloader/uploader without even telling you.  
Bitcapping is more popular with cable type isp's because the core network and access network are shared.  DSL subscribers not so much because you are provisioned on your access line because it's your phone line...not shared like the cable system.  On DSL only the core is shared.  Most capping is done through the cable modems which are easy to hack and reprovision but if you get caught, your ISP will likely ban you for violation of their AUP or TOS. (acceptible use policy or terms of service)

Not very common for ISP's in the states at this point, but it's coming soon where you will likely have a 5gb cap and then metered service after...something like a per Gb fee past the 5gb included with service.  

Most DSL and cable circuits are asymmetrical anyways which gives a lower ul than dl.     I could go on about this shit but i'm at work right now and the last thing I want to do at work is talk about work.

 
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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2009, 10:12:08 AM »

I work for a large ISP and even small municipality wireless networks are monitored for use and abuse.

College networks like the metro ethernet circuit at RIT that we run are monitored.  File sharing from one dorm room to another is visible on our end.


Doesn't matter.  As long as I can loan a CD to my friend or link my laptop with his, there will be file sharing.  The network maybe as small as two people but there will always be file sharing.  The genie is out of the bottle and there is nothing "the corporation" can do to stop it.
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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2009, 10:13:35 AM »

I work for a large ISP and even small municipality wireless networks are monitored for use and abuse.

College networks like the metro ethernet circuit at RIT that we run are monitored.  File sharing from one dorm room to another is visible on our end.

Actually benz, I do know about the bandwidth caps.  I'm CCNA and CWNA.  It's really not the download that you have to worry about either.  You are more likely to get flagged for excessive upload.  Penalties for distribution of pirated material is what they are looking for.  P2P users often turn off their UL or lower it (bandwidth throttling) to try and optimize their usage.  Verizon has a 5gb cap on their air cards, and Frontier is tossing around the idea of a 5gb total dl+ul cap for users not including packets used for services like online hard drive backup from Carbonite or movie dl from netflix.  Time warner monitors packets and will cut your speed if you are a heavy downloader/uploader without even telling you.  
Bitcapping is more popular with cable type isp's because the core network and access network are shared.  DSL subscribers not so much because you are provisioned on your access line because it's your phone line...not shared like the cable system.  On DSL only the core is shared.  Most capping is done through the cable modems which are easy to hack and reprovision but if you get caught, your ISP will likely ban you for violation of their AUP or TOS. (acceptible use policy or terms of service)

Not very common for ISP's in the states at this point, but it's coming soon where you will likely have a 5gb cap and then metered service after...something like a per Gb fee past the 5gb included with service.  

Most DSL and cable circuits are asymmetrical anyways which gives a lower ul than dl.     I could go on about this shit but i'm at work right now and the last thing I want to do at work is talk about work.

 

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Capping will start hitting more as the internet increase and with that, traffic shapping will become more obvious.
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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2009, 10:29:29 AM »

Yes fuck them.
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