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« on: January 06, 2009, 04:51:00 PM » |
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Is Testosterone alone + suicide inhibitors enough for a quick transformation for a dedicated beginner (e.g. take bench which has been stuck from mid 300's to 400's, gain quite abit of muscle size while leaning out, all in 1-4 months) ?
Or are the more unnatural substances (tren, etc.) required ?
If a beginner takes too much testosterone, like 700 mg or something, what would happen?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 05:00:20 PM » |
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700mg. is the high end of what your body can make naturally.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 05:11:22 PM » |
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700mg. is the high end of what your body can make naturally.
LOL no it's not, that is so many more times what your body can make. Is Testosterone alone + suicide inhibitors enough for a quick transformation for a dedicated beginner (e.g. take bench which has been stuck from mid 300's to 400's, gain quite abit of muscle size while leaning out, all in 1-4 months) ?
Or are the more unnatural substances (tren, etc.) required ?
If a beginner takes too much testosterone, like 700 mg or something, what would happen?
Probably not in 2 months you won't get a huge transformation, but you will see good improvement. What is a suicide inhibitor? jt |
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2009, 05:14:28 PM » |
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a suicide inhibitor is the thing that doesn't just block estrogen, but kills the cells that produce it. Useful for those prone to gyno or already have gyno. I forgot what the name of the pill was.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 05:17:00 PM » |
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aromatose inhibitor?
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 05:18:16 PM » |
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Weeks 1-16: 700mg of Test
Weeks 1-8: 40mg Dbol
Weeks 12-16: 40mg Dbol
With a solid diet getting to low 400's might be doable. Too many variables to say 100% one way or the other.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 05:25:24 PM » |
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The average male will produce 200 to 700 of test.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 05:31:47 PM » |
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a suicide inhibitor is the thing that doesn't just block estrogen, but kills the cells that produce it. Useful for those prone to gyno or already have gyno. I forgot what the name of the pill was.
You are talking about Aromasin. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 05:32:18 PM » |
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The average male will produce 200 to 700 of test.
their test reading will eb around 200 -700...somewhere in there.. but thats not a reading like "mg per week" dude. the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 05:41:59 PM » |
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the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day.
This is correct. Which is why most TRT doses are 100-200mg per week to replace NATURAL production. |
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 06:29:44 PM » |
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their test reading will eb around 200 -700...somewhere in there.. but thats not a reading like "mg per week" dude.
the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day.
Dixzzle is correct. 700mg test ew will put your test levels way over the top of charts. 150-200ew brings me up to the top. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 06:33:36 PM » |
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Dixzzle is correct. 700mg test ew will put your test levels way over the top of charts. 150-200ew brings me up to the top.
I said it first, I should get the credit. jt |
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 06:52:20 PM » |
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I said it first, I should get the credit.
jt
okay i relenquish credit to you jt. ________________________ ______________________ good call jt. thanks for the info. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 06:54:05 PM » |
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okay i relenquish credit to you jt.
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good call jt. thanks for the info.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 05:39:59 AM » |
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Yes JT you did bro sorry for that!  |
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 12:03:34 PM » |
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700 per week isnt exactly extreme....
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2009, 06:11:25 PM » |
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700 per week isnt exactly extreme....
Comparatively speaking it's fucking outrageous though, that's what everyone else was talking about. 700mg of exogenous test each week is a pretty good cycle in itself if it's HG. I think we're all getting so caught up in the stigma that more is better. People use to compete using no more than a couple grams of androgens, now people that don't even compete are cycling with huge amounts. I still haven't gone over 500mg of test each week in my cycles. I don't think you should really up the dosage until you really need to. |
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2009, 06:50:58 PM » |
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Comparatively speaking it's fucking outrageous though, that's what everyone else was talking about.
700mg of exogenous test each week is a pretty good cycle in itself if it's HG. I think we're all getting so caught up in the stigma that more is better. People use to compete using no more than a couple grams of androgens, now people that don't even compete are cycling with huge amounts. I still haven't gone over 500mg of test each week in my cycles. I don't think you should really up the dosage until you really need to.
I believe you are absolutely correct my friend. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2009, 04:45:07 PM » |
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1st ever injectable cycle i ever done was with sus,,, starting with 1 g.... it went 4,3,3,2,2,1....... that was pretty bog standard this side of the pond in the 90's
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2009, 03:32:56 AM » |
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their test reading will eb around 200 -700...somewhere in there.. but thats not a reading like "mg per week" dude.
the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day.
X2 .Spot on. |
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