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Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« on: January 06, 2009, 03:51:00 PM »
Is Testosterone alone + suicide inhibitors enough for a quick transformation for a dedicated beginner (e.g. take bench which has been stuck from mid 300's to 400's,  gain quite abit of muscle size while leaning out, all in 1-4 months) ?
Or are the more unnatural substances (tren, etc.) required ?

If a beginner takes too much testosterone, like 700 mg or something, what would happen?

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 04:00:20 PM »
700mg. is the high end of what your body can make naturally.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 04:11:22 PM »
700mg. is the high end of what your body can make naturally.

LOL no it's not, that is so many more times what your body can make.

Is Testosterone alone + suicide inhibitors enough for a quick transformation for a dedicated beginner (e.g. take bench which has been stuck from mid 300's to 400's,  gain quite abit of muscle size while leaning out, all in 1-4 months) ?
Or are the more unnatural substances (tren, etc.) required ?

If a beginner takes too much testosterone, like 700 mg or something, what would happen?

Probably not in 2 months you won't get a huge transformation, but you will see good improvement.  What is a suicide inhibitor?

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2009, 04:14:28 PM »
a suicide inhibitor is the thing that doesn't just block estrogen, but kills the cells that produce it.  Useful for those prone to gyno or already have gyno.  I forgot what the name of the pill was.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 04:17:00 PM »
aromatose inhibitor?
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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 04:18:16 PM »
Weeks 1-16: 700mg of Test
Weeks 1-8: 40mg Dbol
Weeks 12-16: 40mg Dbol

With a solid diet getting to low 400's might be doable. Too many variables to say 100% one way or the other.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 04:25:24 PM »
The average male will produce 200 to 700 of test.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 04:31:47 PM »
a suicide inhibitor is the thing that doesn't just block estrogen, but kills the cells that produce it.  Useful for those prone to gyno or already have gyno.  I forgot what the name of the pill was.

You are talking about Aromasin. 

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 04:32:18 PM »
The average male will produce 200 to 700 of test.
their test reading will eb around 200 -700...somewhere in there.. but thats not a reading like "mg per week" dude.

the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 04:41:59 PM »
the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day.

This is correct.  Which is why most TRT doses are 100-200mg per week to replace NATURAL production.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 05:29:44 PM »
their test reading will eb around 200 -700...somewhere in there.. but thats not a reading like "mg per week" dude.

the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day.

Dixzzle is correct. 700mg test ew will put your test levels way over the top of charts. 150-200ew brings me up to the top.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 05:33:36 PM »
Dixzzle is correct. 700mg test ew will put your test levels way over the top of charts. 150-200ew brings me up to the top.

I said it first, I should get the credit.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 05:52:20 PM »
I said it first, I should get the credit.

jt
okay i relenquish credit to you jt.

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good call jt. thanks for the info.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 05:54:05 PM »
okay i relenquish credit to you jt.

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good call jt. thanks for the info.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 04:39:59 AM »
Yes JT you did bro sorry for that! ;D

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 11:03:34 AM »
700 per week isnt exactly extreme....

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2009, 05:11:25 PM »
700 per week isnt exactly extreme....

Comparatively speaking it's fucking outrageous though, that's what everyone else was talking about.

700mg of exogenous test each week is a pretty good cycle in itself if it's HG. I think we're all getting so caught up in the stigma that more is better. People use to compete using no more than a couple grams of androgens, now people that don't even compete are cycling with huge amounts. I still haven't gone over 500mg of test each week in my cycles. I don't think you should really up the dosage until you really need to.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2009, 05:50:58 PM »
Comparatively speaking it's fucking outrageous though, that's what everyone else was talking about.

700mg of exogenous test each week is a pretty good cycle in itself if it's HG. I think we're all getting so caught up in the stigma that more is better. People use to compete using no more than a couple grams of androgens, now people that don't even compete are cycling with huge amounts. I still haven't gone over 500mg of test each week in my cycles. I don't think you should really up the dosage until you really need to.


I believe you are absolutely correct my friend.

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2009, 03:45:07 PM »
1st ever injectable cycle i ever done was with sus,,, starting with 1 g.... it went 4,3,3,2,2,1....... that was pretty bog standard this side of the pond in the 90's

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Re: Extreme Cycle for 2 month transformation possible?
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2009, 02:32:56 AM »
their test reading will eb around 200 -700...somewhere in there.. but thats not a reading like "mg per week" dude.

the healthy male body with adequate fat and cholestrol ini the diet produces 6-12mg of testosterone per day.
X2 .Spot on.