BART cop kills unarmed man - video of the actual murder

[Option D]

Big Mal are you actually IN med school or are you "pre med"?  Big difference.  Dave Palumbo was "in med school" as well.  This whole I'm Pre-med/In Med school trend is akin to strippers saying "Im paying my way through college".  LOL.  No offense but it's hard for me to believe you are MD material, although I don't know you personally.  

But this is coming from QuakerOats.......hell he would probably tell us tbombz has a doctorate in biochemistry if it fits his argument.  

Fool im in medical school. I wa bio premed in undergrad (Morehouse College) chief. Im in medical school now at Emory U. And i have no idea why you find it hard to beleive im in medical school. You dont know me from adam.

Isn't he also the same guy who says he's well versed with the 'streets' of LA as well?

Jay-Z is a well known celebrity with a singer wife, but does that not mean he has gun runners and drug dealers in his clique?

what does the fact that i grew up in LA have to do with me being in medical school.

You seem to be telling people to shut the fuck up left and right big mal.  yet i notice you never back up your reasoning.  just curious, are you colored?

Im Black/puerto rican. And i say shut the fuck up because its funny to me. I have backed up all of my arguments. This issue i feel there is no even trying to justify the actions of this cop

[TrapsMcLats]

Fool im in medical school. I wa bio premed in undergrad (Morehouse College) chief. Im in medical school now at Emory U. And i have no idea why you find it hard to beleive im in medical school. You dont know me from adam.


what does the fact that i grew up in LA have to do with me being in medical school.
Im Black/puerto rican. And i say shut the fuck up because its funny to me. I have backed up all of my arguments. This issue i feel there is no even trying to justify the actions of this cop

so you agree that it was an accidental shooting... justified or not?

[Option D]

so you agree that it was an accidental shooting... justified or not?

its hard to say seriously. I dont want to beleive that a cop would saddle a man (no homo) and then just cold blooded shoot him like that. So accident yes. Extremely careless, wreckless, thoughtless..also yes.

[kh300]

The funny thing is, some posters on here swears this will be the norm and that us law-abiding citizens will be next.   

I'll bet these same folks are unfamiliar with the protocols involved in using a weapon when on duty.

trust me i know plenty of officers such as myself, who have not used a weapon in dangerous situations when we should have in fear of retribution.. i know a cop who was shot a few weeks ago because he was afraid to shoot back.

these days even if your in a justified shooting, your still fucked..

meanwhile we have dumbasses who think cops use them as toys...lol..right.

[Soul Crusher]

so you agree that it was an accidental shooting... justified or not?

This was cold blooded murder.  

[TrapsMcLats]

its hard to say seriously. I dont want to beleive that a cop would saddle a man (no homo) and then just cold blooded shoot him like that. So accident yes. Extremely careless, wreckless, thoughtless..also yes.

So then can you also agree that this dude shouldn't have put himself in the position to be handcuffed by the cops at all?  If he doesn't act like a typical negro and stays out of a fight, he's alive today, true?

[TrapsMcLats]

This was cold blooded murder.  

yeah, a bad cop would choose this moment in time, in front of hordes of people with cameras on new years eve/day to committ a hate crime to show everyone who's boss.  yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  are you black too?

[Eyeball Chambers]

Of course.  It's always the those that choose to disobey that require further discipline from the authorities.

It's not their job to discipline anyone.  The tasers were only suppose to be used in place of lethal force.

[Option D]

So then can you also agree that this dude shouldn't have put himself in the position to be handcuffed by the cops at all?  If he doesn't act like a typical negro and stays out of a fight, he's alive today, true?

Thats the disconnect. First off...facts= he wasnt involved in the fight and tried to convey that to the police. So he didnt put him self in any position. And also. Say im speeding or have a tail light out. If i get pulled over and a police officer accidently shoots me for whatever reason, Am i putting myself in that position? Like getting in a fight or getting arrested shouldnt run the RISK of getting shot by a police officer. One step even further. If he resisted arrest and ran..then he would be opening up a lot of possibilities, but laying on the ground hogtied by a cop...the bottom of the list possibilities has to be getting shot in the back.

[TrapsMcLats]

Thats the disconnect. First off...facts= he wasnt involved in the fight and tried to convey that to the police. So he didnt put him self in any position. And also. Say im speeding or have a tail light out. If i get pulled over and a police officer accidently shoots me for whatever reason, Am i putting myself in that position? Like getting in a fight or getting arrested shouldnt run the RISK of getting shot by a police officer. One step even further. If he resisted arrest and ran..then he would be opening up a lot of possibilities, but laying on the ground hogtied by a cop...the bottom of the list possibilities has to be getting shot in the back.

he was struggling enough to make those guys pull for a taser or gun wasn't he?

[Soul Crusher]

yeah, a bad cop would choose this moment in time, in front of hordes of people with cameras on new years eve/day to committ a hate crime to show everyone who's boss.  yeah, that makes a lot of sense.  are you black too?

No, I am a white middle class guy from NYC.  I know many cops in Yonkers and the Bronx NY and know most of them to be wannabe gangsters and tough guys.  

The cops I know have a lawless attitude towards us "civilians" and know they can get away with almost anything and always claim that a "perp" was "resisting arrest".  

I know a few cops who literally have broken their hands at least 5 times on peoples' faces.

There is no excuse or justification for this.  Thank God for the camera in this case since the other cops would fabricate a story and then later "testilie" on the stand that the their "lives were on the line" and doing their job.

Go try to tell your nonsense to people who dont know any better.  
  

[Disgusted]

There is no way in the world this cop didn't know he had his gun in his hand!!!

[Option D]

he was struggling enough to make those guys pull for a taser or gun wasn't he?

Ok Man. We will agree to disagree. Because i dont even understand why there are this many posts concerning this. The cop was 100% wrong.

[Soul Crusher]

he was struggling enough to make those guys pull for a taser or gun wasn't he?

You are such a joke.  That kid posed no threat whatsoever and is dead for no reason whatsoever.  

Additionally, what good is having three or four cops on a scene if they cant even subdue one guy already in handcuffs?  

Please, this cop hopefully will go away for a long long time.  Maybe you can go visit him and hold his hand.
 

[240 is Back]

i've watched 3 diff angles on the shooting - the second cop stepped off of him so the other guy could taze him. 

Dude's firstborn child was born the DAY BEFORE the shooting.  He must have been sleepy as hell.

He was on autopilot in a stressed situation in the middle of the night, and he drew and fired his gun instead of the tazer.  He and partner stood there stunned, both expecting a taze.  Obvious accident - he did intend to tase the fvck out of a pinned kid, yes.  Not too nice.  But he didn't want to kill him.  No way a new dad straight executes someone like that.

BUT - they didn't rush to help the kid.  They rushed to confiscate cameras.  Maybe they would have saved him.

[Soul Crusher]

i've watched 3 diff angles on the shooting - the second cop stepped off of him so the other guy could taze him. 

Dude's firstborn child was born the DAY BEFORE the shooting.  He must have been sleepy as hell.

He was on autopilot in a stressed situation in the middle of the night, and he drew and fired his gun instead of the tazer.  He and partner stood there stunned, both expecting a taze.  Obvious accident - he did intend to tase the fvck out of a pinned kid, yes.  Not too nice.  But he didn't want to kill him.  No way a new dad straight executes someone like that.

BUT - they didn't rush to help the kid.  They rushed to confiscate cameras.  Maybe they would have saved him.

Autopilot for what?

The guy was on the ground in handcuffs already?

[Disgusted]

i've watched 3 diff angles on the shooting - the second cop stepped off of him so the other guy could taze him. 

Dude's firstborn child was born the DAY BEFORE the shooting.  He must have been sleepy as hell.

He was on autopilot in a stressed situation in the middle of the night, and he drew and fired his gun instead of the tazer.  He and partner stood there stunned, both expecting a taze.  Obvious accident - he did intend to tase the fvck out of a pinned kid, yes.  Not too nice.  But he didn't want to kill him.  No way a new dad straight executes someone like that.

BUT - they didn't rush to help the kid.  They rushed to confiscate cameras.  Maybe they would have saved him.

When the second cop stepped off him to be tased then I would assume he or any of the other cops would have noticed he had a "GUN" in his hand. These guys knew that this was a fatal shot and they still put cuffs on this kid. None of them tried in any way to help save his life.

[Soul Crusher]

When the second cop stepped off him to be tased then I would assume he or any of the other cops would have noticed he had a "GUN" in his hand. These guys knew that this was a fatal shot and they still put cuffs on this kid. None of them tried in any way to help save his life.

The present day police state we live in is horrible.  Cops, DA's, et al, get away with anything and condition the unsuspecting public to believe almost any lie they tell and accept any abuse they commit. 




 

[Disgusted]

The present day police state we live in is horrible.  Cops, DA's, et al, get away with anything and condition the unsuspecting public to believe almost any lie they tell and accept any abuse they commit. 




 

Well said, also There is no way in the world this cop didn't know he had his gun in his hand!!!

[kh300]

Well said, also There is no way in the world this cop didn't know he had his gun in his hand!!!

so what your saying is this guy shot him on purpose?

[Option D]

240 youre a gun guy
you know the difference in a 9mm beretta and a glock 45 right...there is a pretty difference right...there is esp a difference from a tazer gun and a 9mm beretta

[MuscleMcMannus]

Fool im in medical school. I wa bio premed in undergrad (Morehouse College) chief. Im in medical school now at Emory U. And i have no idea why you find it hard to beleive im in medical school. You dont know me from adam.


what does the fact that i grew up in LA have to do with me being in medical school.
Im Black/puerto rican. And i say shut the fuck up because its funny to me. I have backed up all of my arguments. This issue i feel there is no even trying to justify the actions of this cop

I find it surprising that someone of your intellect, that is judging by your posts, has the discipline, work ethic, sophistication, people skills, etc. to be a doctor.  But then again I'm sure you've gotten a shit ton of free money from the government being black.  And you're right I only know you from your posts and time spent on here.  

[Disgusted]

so what your saying is this guy shot him on purpose?

You have to ask?

[Option D]

I find it surprising that someone of your intellect, that is judging by your posts, has the discipline, work ethic, sophistication, people skills, etc. to be a doctor.  But then again I'm sure you've gotten a shit ton of free money from the government being black.  And you're right I only know you from your posts and time spent on here.  

Hahaha there it is. Let me tell you. I went to a private school on a football scholarship. Never got government assistance in life. And i dont have to talk genetics or bio chem or hema on this board to show how smart i am. My body alone is a testament to my work ethic and discipline. Let alone my admission to emory or the fact i raised the money for my kaplan mcat prep my self. You dont know shit about me or my family chief.

[kh300]

You have to ask?

do you really think he was going to shoot him with all those people and the cameras there? also the biggest factor which were the other cops..
trust me on this not all cops have each others backs.. in fact they are usually against each other. they are all competing for the same thing -which is a promotion. and trust me, your actions get reported very quickly..

i would love to hand you a gun and send you out to the ghetto and watch you scared shitless shooting at shadows. yes i know, cops are supposed to be better and receive proper training, but they are still humans,, and humans fuck up..

this officer will not wear a badge ever again. his mistake was the biggest one you can make, which is to take another life. im sure he knows that and he will pay the price not just legally but emotionally as well. unfortunately we have people trying to take advantage of this terrible situation to promote their own agenda. thats even sadder.