Palin accuses media of 'personal, salacious' reporting

[tu_holmes]

What approval rating are you talking about?  Her approval ratings as governor approached or maybe even exceeded 90 percent. 

Then why is she behind for her senate bid?

The most recent gauge of her popularity isn't looking so rosy:

Alaska Standard / Dittman Research (R)
12/5-20/08 (released 1/7/09); 505 adults, 4.4% margin of error
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews

Alaska 2010 Senate
Republican Primary: Murkowski (R-i) 57, Palin (R) 33

[Straw Man]

So why is her approval rating so low now if she's still so great?

Bum doesn't recognize the linear nature of time.

If she ever had a high approval rating then she must always have one

In one respect Bum might be right since the linear nature of time is probably just an artifact of our senses

I'm sure that's what he meant

[Dos Equis]

Then why is she behind for her senate bid?

She's running for senate?  News to me.  If she runs, she likely wins.  The people of her state love her. 

How do you explain her astronomically high approval ratings as governor? 

[tu_holmes]

She's running for senate?  News to me.  If she runs, she likely wins.  The people of her state love her. 

How do you explain her astronomically high approval ratings as governor? 

It's more of an "If she ran for Senate", but she's behind in the poll which was provided... Are you casually ignoring that part?

[Straw Man]

She's running for senate?  News to me.  If she runs, she likely wins.  The people of her state love her. 

How do you explain her astronomically high approval ratings as governor?  

Ignorance?

[Straw Man]

It's more of an "If she ran for Senate", but she's behind in the poll which was provided... Are you casually ignoring that part?

more like willful ignorance

[Dos Equis]

It's more of an "If she ran for Senate", but she's behind in the poll which was provided... Are you casually ignoring that part?

She's behind in a poll for an office she isn't yet seeking.  Big deal.  I'd place far more emphasis on how the people who put her in office judge her performance.  How do you spin her sky high job approval ratings?  

[tu_holmes]

She's behind in a poll for an office she isn't yet seeking.  Big deal.  I'd place far more emphasis on how the people who put her in office judge her performance.  How do you spin her sky high job approval ratings?  

Well, those people don't get to eat a lot of cheeseburgers either, so they may not know what a cheeseburger tastes like even.

If you eat badger all day, you'll say it's the best thing on the planet... until one day, you actually get to eat a cheeseburger and then you realize what you've been missing the whole time.

All of a sudden... badger sucks.

[Straw Man]

She's behind in a poll for an office she isn't yet seeking.  Big deal.  I'd place far more emphasis on how the people who put her in office judge her performance.  How do you spin her sky high job approval ratings?  

Bum - that poll conducted in December 2008 and released in January 2009

It's the most recent guage of her popularity and has relevence

I'll concede that it can't be construed as indicator of her as governor and can be skewed since it's comparing her to the incumbant Repub Senator.  Still it's something that can't be completely discounted just on those terms.

[Dos Equis]

Well, those people don't get to eat a lot of cheeseburgers either, so they may not know what a cheeseburger tastes like even.

If you eat badger all day, you'll say it's the best thing on the planet... until one day, you actually get to eat a cheeseburger and then you realize what you've been missing the whole time.

All of a sudden... badger sucks.

Wait.  She was elected to city council.  She was elected mayor.  She was elected governor.  Her approval ratings as governor were probably the highest in the country.  The governors of 50 states had a similar view.  But the people of Alaska didn't actually know who or what she was?  Is that what you believe?   

[tu_holmes]

Wait.  She was elected to city council.  She was elected mayor.  She was elected governor.  Her approval ratings as governor were probably the highest in the country.  The governors of 50 states had a similar view.  But the people of Alaska didn't actually know who or what she was?  Is that what you believe?   

Seems the people of the US certainly believed it.

I for one am inclined to think so as well...

BTW it's governor's of 49 states... SHE was the 50th, so she wouldn't have really had a viable opinion on herself.

[Dos Equis]

Seems the people of the US certainly believed it.

I for one am inclined to think so as well...

BTW it's governor's of 49 states... SHE was the 50th, so she wouldn't have really had a viable opinion on herself.

But I was asking you to explain her high job approval ratings.  Your explanation is that the people of her state didn't really know her.  That is contradicted by the fact they her elected her to three different offices. 

O.K.  The governors of 49 states.  Still pretty significant, unless they were all "Neo-Con right wing christian types."   

[tu_holmes]

But I was asking you to explain her high job approval ratings.  Your explanation is that the people of her state didn't really know her.  That is contradicted by the fact they her elected her to three different offices. 

O.K.  The governors of 49 states.  Still pretty significant, unless they were all "Neo-Con right wing christian types."  

No... I'd say that it's much more likely that they just all sat in a room and said, let's give it to the chick from the black hole of Alaska.

You think that governor's are so awesome and always know what they're talking about?

Oh wait... you think they are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth.

Let's see... Bush? Blagojevich?

Sure... Being governor is special.

[Dos Equis]

No... I'd say that it's much more likely that they just all sat in a room and said, let's give it to the chick from the black hole of Alaska.

You think that governor's are so awesome and always know what they're talking about?

Oh wait... you think they are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth.

Let's see... Bush? Blagojevich?

Sure... Being governor is special.

No, I don't think governors are "so awesome and always know what they're talking about."  I don't believe governors "are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth."  I think you and others are wrong when you say Palin is not popular, because her job approval ratings and 49 governors say otherwise.  You can try and expand that to some ridiculous overstatement, but it's really just a simple point:  people of her state like her (and many of her critics are irrational).  They've had a chance to see her in various state offices.  She must be doing something right.   

[Straw Man]

There a good chance that most of the voters in Alaska never heard her speak at length, if even at all.

Most probably voted for her because she was "hot" or "folksy" and could shoot a moose, etc...   which is all fine if those are all you're looking for in a leader.

Once she got on the world stage and revealed herself to be something less than knowledgable on a number of issues as well as making silly and embarrassing statements I'm sure her shine was a little duller with the people back home.

[BM OUT]

No... I'd say that it's much more likely that they just all sat in a room and said, let's give it to the chick from the black hole of Alaska.

You think that governor's are so awesome and always know what they're talking about?

Oh wait... you think they are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth.

Let's see... Bush? Blagojevich?

Sure... Being governor is special.

BUSH WENT ON TO BECOME PRESIDENT.Senators are great?How about Larry Craig?

[tu_holmes]

No, I don't think governors are "so awesome and always know what they're talking about."  I don't believe governors "are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth."  I think you and others are wrong when you say Palin is not popular, because her job approval ratings and 49 governors say otherwise.  You can try and expand that to some ridiculous overstatement, but it's really just a simple point:  people of her state like her (and many of her critics are irrational).  They've had a chance to see her in various state offices.  She must be doing something right.   

She kept her mouth shut before... She talked about hunting and fishing and killing shit... That's what the people IN Alaska like... It's not what the rest of the country likes or NEEDS.

[tu_holmes]

BUSH WENT ON TO BECOME PRESIDENT.Senators are great?How about Larry Craig?

The worst president in the history of this country.

Craig was an idiot too... Another Republican who says gays are sinners right...

[Dos Equis]

She kept her mouth shut before... She talked about hunting and fishing and killing shit... That's what the people IN Alaska like... It's not what the rest of the country likes or NEEDS.

So she didn't run public campaigns for three offices, didn't make campaign speeches, didn't have public debates, didn't hold press conferences, and didn't regularly talk to the public about anything except hunting and fishing?  There were also committee hearings, etc., most of which had to be public.  That's some funny spin.   

It's really not that hard to admit that the woman is well liked by the people who know her best.   

[tu_holmes]

So she didn't run public campaigns for three offices, didn't make campaign speeches, didn't have public debates, didn't hold press conferences, and didn't regularly talk to the public about anything except hunting and fishing?  There were also committee hearings, etc., most of which had to be public.  That's some funny spin.   

It's really not that hard to admit that the woman is well liked by the people who know her best.   

You mean those who are very similar to her?

Yes, I'll admit that there's probably lots of right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons in Alaska who like to hunt Wolves from planes and eat Moose meat.

Happy?

[Dos Equis]

You mean those who are very similar to her?

Yes, I'll admit that there's probably lots of right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons in Alaska who like to hunt Wolves from planes and eat Moose meat.

Happy?

lol.  So now it's "right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons" who are responsible for her being repeatedly elected to public office and for her very high approval ratings?  lol. . . .   I don't really expect you to say anything crazy, like:  "Maybe I was mistaken.  She was one of the most popular governors in the country.  Governors around the country had the same opinion as the people of her state.  Maybe it's possible she actually knew what she was doing." 

That would be expecting too much.     

[tu_holmes]

lol.  So now it's "right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons" who are responsible for her being repeatedly elected to public office and for her very high approval ratings?  lol. . . .   I don't really expect you to say anything crazy, like:  "Maybe I was mistaken.  She was one of the most popular governors in the country.  Governors around the country had the same opinion as the people of her state.  Maybe it's possible she actually knew what she was doing." 

That would be expecting too much.    

No, that would be me lying... Bridge to nowhere ring a bell?

[Dos Equis]

No, that would be me lying... Bridge to nowhere ring a bell?

Bridge to nowhere ring a bell about what?  I thought we were talking about all those right wing neo-con Christian nuts in Alaska responsible for Palin's job approval ratings? 

[bigdumbbell]

caroline and sarah are treated differently because of their sex than some alcoholic like john mcain

[240 is Back]

Yes,unlike Caroline Kennedy who has been in her house for thirty years not interacting with anyone.

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brutal subject change.

hey, sarah palin is unqualified to be president.

But jon bon jovi is even less qualified.

therefore palin is suddenly more qualified than someone, and the subject has been changed.  Great work!