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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2009, 05:20:44 PM »
Good for him. Every woman has a right to terminate her pregnancy if she so wishes. And don't give me the standard 'It's a human life', The Coach - while the fetus is in the mother's womb, it's not an independent entity that has rights like an existing individual does. The female carries and nurtures it (willingly or not) and therefore gets to decide whether she wishes to continue playing host or not.
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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2009, 05:21:27 PM »
Just to give you an idea, most middle eastern countries are more lenient on abortion laws then Americans. Even women in the middle east who are "oppressed" are allowed to decide for themselves.

If they dont want to murder a child keep their legs closed.

Just my opinion mate. I believe its wrong. And none of this my body my choice nonsense...it is their responsibility.

Abortion is murder

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »
The baby feels the pain when it gets destroyed by forceps

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2009, 05:24:57 PM »
Won't be long until girls start having abortions to sell fetuses for stem cell research. :)

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2009, 05:25:43 PM »
Your coment shows your ignorance.  Pres Bush protected the US from terrorists. His tough stance made the terrorists think before they came after us again.  That's much dif than killing unborn babies.  Think before you write.
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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2009, 05:25:55 PM »
The baby feels the pain when it gets destroyed by forceps

It's a slab meat living off a host.. Once it's out then it is a different story, but during pregnancy it isn't a human being or even an independent organism.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2009, 05:26:46 PM »
If they dont want to murder a child keep their legs closed.

Just my opinion mate. I believe its wrong. And none of this my body my choice nonsense...it is their responsibility.

Abortion is murder
Yea, because abstinence works so well  ::). Who wants to be raised in a family where they aren't wanted, or possibly raised without a fully functional body. Well i think it is wrong that you force someone to live a life of pain.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2009, 05:26:49 PM »
Your coment shows your ignorance.  Pres Bush protected the US from terrorists. His tough stance made the terrorists think before they came after us again.  That's much dif than killing unborn babies.  Think before you write.
hahahahah, oh brother, epic Fox news hypnotism. ::)

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2009, 05:27:36 PM »
If they dont want to murder a child keep their legs closed.

Just my opinion mate. I believe its wrong. And none of this my body my choice nonsense...it is their responsibility.

Abortion is murder

Do you believe its ok to refuse to help out countries that disagree with your opinion on this?  Not to give them money even if there are starving children or entire families dying of diseases we could easily cure?

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2009, 05:27:40 PM »
The baby feels the pain when it gets destroyed by forceps
I didn't know you could feel pain without a nervous system.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2009, 05:28:42 PM »
Yea, because abstinence works so well  ::). Who wants to be raised in a family where they aren't wanted, or possibly raised without a fully functional body. Well i think it is wrong that you force someone to live a life of pain.

adoption. Plent are desperate for babies.

Also the baby does feel pain. It is reliant on its mother.

Just my 2 cents. I dont agree at all. Its playing God.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2009, 05:28:48 PM »
To believe its ok to refuse to help out countries that disagree with your opinion on this.  Not to give them money even if there are starving children or entire families dying of diseases we could easily cure?
Are you trying to say Goudy needs to keep his mouth closed and that you "believe" it is wrong for him to speak?  ;D

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2009, 05:30:03 PM »
adoption. Plent are desperate for babies.

Also the baby does feel pain. It is reliant on its mother.

Just my 2 cents. I dont agree at all. Its playing God.
Well if it is playing God then why do you get a flu shot? Why do we use modern science to help us do anything. You know next time you get sick or you have a loved one get sick just let them die.... otherwise we would be "playing God" wouldn't we  ::)

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2009, 05:31:17 PM »
Are you trying to say Goudy needs to keep his mouth closed and that you "believe" it is wrong for him to speak?  ;D

I'll let him speak for himself.  I can say unequivocally that Coach is missing a few intelligence genes due to random mutation.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2009, 05:32:23 PM »
Abortion is muder.

The child feels the pain. You can see it screaming in films etc. Silent scream.

I dare you to google image abortion. Horrific

Don't believe everything you see in the movies, Goudy. A fetus is not a child (it's not even a baby until it's born) anymore than an egg is a chicken. Induced abortions are done early in the stage of pregnancy unless it's an exceptional case where it's necessary in order to save the mother's life like Leafy has pointed out. At that stage, the developing embryo does have some limited capacity of perception and sensation but nothing that is the equivalent of an individual's.

People who say abortion is evil and should be outlawed aren't going to support the child once it's born or even care what happens to it from then on - it's just their point of view that is important to them and they let it override the fact that having a child is a lifelong commitment and the most demanding and draining one at that. When you say people shouldn't abort just because you are empathizing with the unborn embryo, I'm tempted to ask how you feel after the child is born. If the parents can't afford to raise it for whatever reason, would you step in and help out financially or in other ways? Of course not.

People should be more concerned about all the orphans out there who have already been born and help out, rather than dictate or worry about what a woman can and cannot do with the unborn inside her. By default the majority of us don't want to terminate pregnancies, but in a lot of cases the woman gets pregnant at a time that doesn't suit her for whatever reason. If so, she has every right to make that decision.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2009, 05:33:46 PM »
No but seriously just my 2 cents its wrong IMO and i wish it was illegal in most places like it is here in Ireland

Those examples are helping life. Not destroying it.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2009, 05:34:22 PM »
I'll let him speak for himself.  I can say unequivocally that Coach is missing a few intelligence genes due to random mutation.
Are you trying to say that the neurotransmitters in coach's brain move about as fast as level one on pong?


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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2009, 05:34:29 PM »
I'll let him speak for himself.  I can say unequivocally that Coach is missing a few intelligence genes due to random mutation.
somewhere along the line he got sucked into the whole neo-conservative movement when REAL conservatism has nothing to do with the CLOWNS like Bush who pass themselves off as conservatives, true conservatism is about having the SMALLEST government possible and staying out of people's affairs, read up on Barry Goldwater the father of conservatism and he believed the government had no place in abortion, gay rights and all this other bullshit.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2009, 05:35:09 PM »
Don't believe everything you see in the movies, Goudy. A fetus is not a child (it's not even a baby until it's born) anymore than an egg is a chicken. Induced abortions are done early in the stage of pregnancy unless it's an exceptional case where it's necessary in order to save the mother's life like Leafy has pointed out. At that stage, the developing embryo does have some limited capacity of perception and sensation but nothing that is the equivalent of an individual's.

People who say abortion is evil and should be outlawed aren't going to support the child once it's born or even care what happens to it from then on - it's just their view that is important to them and override the fact that having a child is a lifelong commitment and the most demanding and draining one at that. When you say people shouldn't abort just because you are empathizing with the unborn embryo, I'm tempted to ask how you feel after the child is born. If the parents can't afford to raise it for whatever reason, would you step in and help out financially or in other ways? Of course not.

People should be more concerned about all the orphans out there who have already been born and help out, rather than dictate or worry about what a woman can and cannot do with the unborn inside her. By default the majority of us don't want to terminate pregnancies, but in a lot of cases the woman gets pregnant at a time that doesn't suit her for whatever reason. If so, she has every right to make that decision.

I appreciate your serious and dignified post mate. Your a good guy. We will both agree to disagree. However i do agree with the orphans who are about already etc. Real shame

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2009, 05:35:18 PM »
Maybe you were an attempted abortion leafy and thats why you are missing arms  ;D

No but seriously just my 2 cents its wrong IMO and i wish it was illegal in most places like it is here in Ireland

Those examples are helping life. Not destroying it.
Helping to raise more future militants for the Catholic/ Protestant conflict?

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2009, 05:36:51 PM »
Not allowing abortion is Retarded.

No more to i then that fuckers.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2009, 05:36:58 PM »
I appreciate your serious and dignified post mate. Your a good guy. We will both agree to disagree. However i do agree with the orphans who are about already etc. Real shame
Goudy, just think of all the thousands of babies your mom has eaten. Awful woman she is. She should be sentenced to death haahahhaha

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2009, 05:37:08 PM »
If i wasnt raised cathoic i would still disagree. To be honest before we done about abortion in school my views already were it was wrong.

Abortion is not a catholic/protestant issue in Ireland believe it or not. It just ahppens that the Catholic church is a large powerful and vocal opponent of it

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2009, 05:38:37 PM »
Threads like this ALWAYS bring out the true character of liberals.
Oh horsecrap.  I am against abortion.  Especially as a form of borth control.  But in no way does the federal government have the right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her own body.

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Re: Ok, I Gave Him a Chance
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2009, 05:39:25 PM »
I'm still waiting for an answer, Goudy


Do you think it's ok for a country to refuse aid because they don't agree with another country's policy on abortion?