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Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« on: January 23, 2009, 05:44:51 PM »
Starting off his presidency by taking on controversial issues.  Has not been a good start IMO.  And this statement is silly:  "It is time we end the politicization of this issue," Obama said.   ::)

Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama struck down a rule Friday that prohibits U.S. money from funding international family-planning clinics that promote abortion or provide counseling or referrals about abortion services.

Obama said in a statement that family planning aid has been used as a "political wedge issue," adding that he had "no desire to continue this stale and fruitless debate."

The policy says any organization receiving U.S. family-planning funds from the U.S. Agency for International Development cannot offer abortions or abortion counseling.

"It is time we end the politicization of this issue," Obama said. "In the coming weeks, my administration will initiate a fresh conversation on family planning, working to find areas of common ground to best meet the needs of women and families at home and around the world."

Obama's memorandum reversing the policy comes the day after the 36th anniversary of Roe v. Wade. The landmark 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the right to privacy protected by the 14th Amendment. The ruling gave a woman autonomy over her pregnancy during the first trimester.

The memorandum reverses the "Mexico City policy," initiated by President Reagan in 1984, canceled by President Clinton and reinstated by President George W. Bush in 2001.

The policy, referred to by critics as "the global gag rule," was initially announced at a population conference in Mexico City.

Reversing the previous administrations' stance on the policy was one of Clinton's first acts as president in January 1993 and the very first executive order issued by Bush on January 22, 2001, the 28th anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

Critics, including Planned Parenthood, called Bush's move a "legislative ambush."

He defended his action, saying, "It is my conviction that taxpayer funds should not be used to pay for abortion or actively promote abortion."

The group Population Action International praised Obama's move, saying in a statement that it will "save women's lives around the world."

"Family planning should not be a political issue; it's about basic health care and well-being for women and children," the group said.

"Women's health has been severely impacted by the cutoff of assistance. President Obama's actions will help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, abortions and women dying from high-risk pregnancies because they don't have access to family planning."

Republican lawmakers were critical of the new president's action.

"Not even waiting a week, the new administration has acted to funnel U.S. tax dollars to abortion providers overseas," Rep. Tom Price, R-Georgia, said in a written statement.

"This is a stunning reversal of course from the president's campaign statements that he hoped to reduce the number of abortions. Just a day after thousands of Americans came to Washington to celebrate the principle of life, President Obama has made it clear that reducing abortions is not one of his priorities."

In his statement, however, Obama said he had directed his staff "to reach out to those on all sides of this issue to achieve the goal of reducing unintended pregnancies."

"They will also work to promote safe motherhood, reduce maternal and infant mortality antes and increase educational and economic opportunities for women and girls."

The president added that he looked forward to "working with Congress to restore U.S. financial support for the U.N. Population Fund."

The Bush administration has repeatedly withheld funding authorized by Congress for the U.N. fund, saying the agency has funded a forced sterilization program in China. The fund has repeatedly denied that accusation.

"By signaling his intention to restore U.S. funding for UNFPA, the UN Population Fund, President Barack Obama is signaling his re-engagement with the international community on the critical challenge of improving reproductive health around the world," UN Foundation President Timothy Wirth said.

"For the past seven years, UNFPA funding has been a victim of false accusations and misinformation that had everything to do with politics and nothing to do with sound policy," he said.

"Approximately 180 industrialized and developing countries, including all the countries in sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, contribute to UNFPA. The United States was the only country to withhold funding for political reasons."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/obama.abortion/index.html

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 06:04:06 PM »
The Coach and you should announce your engagement. Two closed minded hypocrites, I mean it'd probably end Coach's divorce streak  ;D

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2009, 06:05:25 PM »
The Coach and you should announce your engagement. Two closed minded hypocrites, I mean it'd probably end Coach's divorce streak  ;D

HAHA

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2009, 06:47:53 PM »
The Coach and you should announce your engagement. Two closed minded hypocrites, I mean it'd probably end Coach's divorce streak  ;D

Hey it's the junior pothead.   :)  Where you been? 

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2009, 07:10:10 PM »
HAHA

Beach Bum does come across as a closet queen.  ;D

No thanks.  You can have him.

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2009, 07:23:17 PM »
No thanks.  You can have him.

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2009, 08:52:19 PM »
Starting off his presidency by taking on controversial issues.  Has not been a good start IMO.  And this statement is silly:  "It is time we end the politicization of this issue," Obama said.   ::)

this might be the funniest thing you've ever written

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2009, 08:58:56 PM »
Why are we funding abortions overseas?

Don't we have enough unwanted pregnancies over here?

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2009, 09:13:50 PM »
Why are we funding abortions overseas?

Don't we have enough unwanted pregnancies over here?

we fund all kinds of things and this really is not about abortions or even an increase in US $'s  being spent

all it means is that ngo's we already fund can now give a full spectrum of advise on family planning, contraception, etc... without being at risk of losing funding if they say the wrong thing...i.e. mention abortion, contraception, etc...


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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2009, 10:38:58 AM »
The Vatican Slams Obama Over Abortion
By Jeff Israely Monday, Jan. 26, 2009Pope Benedict XVI
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President Obama is probably not itching for a fight over abortion. But he might get one. With unusual speed, the Vatican has condemned Obama's Jan. 23 repeal of the ban on U.S. funding for foreign family planning aid groups who offer abortion services.

The repeal fulfils a campaign promise Obama made to pro-choice supporters. But if the late Friday afternoon signing was an attempt to get the change in under the radar, it didn't work. Top Vatican officials, usually hesitant to respond directly to Washington's domestic policy decisions, pounced quickly. By Saturday afternoon, the Holy See was emailing reporters the Sunday edition of its official daily, L'Osservatore Romano, which features a front page headline describing Obama's decision as "very disappointing." (Read "Shhh. Obama Repeals the Abortion Gag Rule, Very Quietly.")

The same day, the secular Milan daily Corriere della Sera published an interview with a top Vatican official lashing out at the new U.S. President. Archbishop Rino Fisichella, head of the Pontifical Academy for Life, told the newspaper that the repeal of the abortion-funding ban was done with "the arrogance of those who, having power, think they can decide between life and death." Troubled by the swiftness of Obama's pro-choice move, Fisichella brushed off earlier vows by the new president to try to cut the number of abortions, while ensuring a woman's access to the procedure. "On ethical questions, you can't play with words," said the Italian Archbishop, considered close to Pope Benedict XVI. "Hiding behind sophisms isn't worthy of he who has a responsibility towards citizens. People want clarity." (See pictures of Pope Benedict XVI visiting America.)

It's too early to predict a deep rupture in U.S.-Vatican relations. There was no mention of the issue in Sunday's regular Angelus ceremony, and the Pope personally sent warm messages of congratulations to Obama after both his election victory and inauguration. But don't count on Benedict staying silent as Obama ushers in more liberal laws for abortion or stem cell research.

If he does speak out, the Pope is likely to use his representatives in America. The front page Sunday story in L'Osservatore Romano focused on the U.S. bishops' response to the abortion rights decree. A recent video advertisement being aired by Catholicvote.com puts Obama in the middle of the abortion debate, implying that the future President, an African-American raised by a single mother, was himself at risk of being aborted.

Benedict knows that abortion is legal and widely available throughout the West, including virtually every country in Europe. It is the most glaring sign for the Pope of what he describes as the moral failings of contemporary life. But in the U.S., Benedict sees fertile possibility to challenge the status quo. On his trip to Washington D.C. and New York last April, Benedict heard how Catholics in America are being reinvigorated by a steady flow of more traditional immigrant Catholic groups. That matters. Fisichella concluded his interview by saying, "What happens in the U.S. influences other parts of the world. For this [its leaders] must be capable of listening, having humility and maybe even asking others for help."

Obama won a majority of Catholic voters, in part because he was able to convince them that he was both the right man to lead the country, and was generally in tune with their values. In his public speeches and private diplomacy, Benedict will use his notable intellect to reaffirm for American Catholics what those values are. It would be a chance to influence abortion legislation both in the U.S. and around the world. On abortion in other words, Benedict might be itching for a fight with Obama. If so, the new President will have to work hard to keep from getting bruised.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1873904,00.html?imw=Y

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 10:48:01 AM »
Why are we funding abortions overseas?

Don't we have enough unwanted pregnancies over here?

More wasteful spending going to liberal groups.

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2009, 10:49:25 AM »
The Vatican is against abortion?

I'm shocked

Why should anyone take health care or family planning advice from a bunch of old, single men who have never had to raise a family or even work for a living?


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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 10:52:16 AM »
How does this STIMULATE the economy????????????

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 10:57:25 AM »
How does this STIMULATE the economy????????????

Increases Planned Parenthood's abortion mills? 

What it does is further politicize an irresolvable issue. 

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 11:01:38 AM »
Increases Planned Parenthood's abortion mills? 

What it does is further politicize an irresolvable issue. 


Making up for the money they lost with Madoff.

This really is 1984 and the Twilight Zone combined. 

 

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 11:02:52 AM »
This won't increase funding in any appreciable way.  It just means that certain ngo's that are already getting funds won't have their speech restricted......it's kind of an American thing

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2009, 11:08:31 AM »
This won't increase funding in any appreciable way.  It just means that certain ngo's that are already getting funds won't have their speech restricted......it's kind of an American thing

I was referring to the money in the stimulus program.

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2009, 11:13:04 AM »
I was referring to the money in the stimulus program.

sorry - I missed that reference

this doesn't have anything to do with the stimulus program.   He's just reversing Bush II who reversed Clinton who reversed Bush I etc..


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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2009, 12:11:29 PM »
Increases Planned Parenthood's abortion mills? 

What it does is further politicize an irresolvable issue. 


This issue is easily resolvable

Family planning, health-care, access to contraception and if chosen, abortion should be available to our citizens and it's a benefit to us all as a country and to the planet in general to limit population growth.

If an individual is opposed to health care, contraception, family planning or abortion than they are free to choose to abstain.

Problem solved

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2009, 12:18:13 PM »
Why are we funding any clinics outside the US right now?  (the abortion issue aside).  People are hurting bad here.  We cannot support the world.  If we had a budget surplus, then these programs could be reinstated...right now we are loosing economic superpower status.

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2009, 12:23:21 PM »
Many people consider abortion murder and against their religious beliefs.  Why should they be forced to pay for this garbage?

The taxpayers are already saddled with enough costs. 

Additionally, your comment, like that made by Bill Bennett, was roundly called racist and evil not a year ago.


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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2009, 12:27:34 PM »
This issue is easily resolvable

Family planning, health-care, access to contraception and if chosen, abortion should be available to our citizens and it's a benefit to us all as a country and to the planet in general to limit population growth.

If an individual is opposed to health care, contraception, family planning or abortion than they are free to choose to abstain.

Problem solved

Millions of people, and the second largest religion in the world, disagree with you.  Problem not solved. 

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2009, 12:28:08 PM »
Many people consider abortion murder and against their religious beliefs.  Why should they be forced to pay for this garbage?

The taxpayers are already saddled with enough costs. 

Additionally, your comment, like that made by Bill Bennett, was roundly called racist and evil not a year ago.

When did I specify ANY race at all??

Did I mention anything about mass abortions of a specific race as lower the crime rate

Do you even know what Bennet said?


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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2009, 12:30:16 PM »
Millions of people, and the second largest religion in the world, disagree with you.  Problem not solved. 

yeah and they are free to choose to abstain from any of the things listed.

it's that simple

Why do their religious beliefs trump secular and societys ability to make health care, family planning, contraceptin and abortion available to those individuals who want them?

Make them available and let all parties choose what they want

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Re: Obama reverses abortion-funding policy
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2009, 12:37:48 PM »
yeah and they are free to choose to abstain from any of the things listed.

it's that simple

Why do their religious beliefs trump secular and societys ability to make health care, family planning, contraceptin and abortion available to those individuals who want them?

Make them available and let all parties choose what they want

It's not simple at all.  Millions of people believe abortion is murder.  The president cannot simply sign an EO and make the issue go away.  There are too many people who are either pro life or have problems with abortion on demand.  These people, whether their beliefs are religious based or not, are all part of "society."     

I read the other day that the Freedom of Choice Act may not get out of the House, because it is not supported by a majority of Democrats.  Even liberals in Congress aren't unified on this issue.