Author Topic: Ironman 2009 - Mo Banout - how can he get so much shredded (Read 11341 times)

BigAnt · « **Reply #50 on:** January 25, 2009, 05:59:15 PM »

Quote from: michael arvilla on January 25, 2009, 10:03:26 AM

"Mo" isn't taking anything the other guys aren't
what he is is "all fired up" (his pro-debut!) trained and dieted his ass off! (probaly was like a zombie the past few weeks/months)
quite simply he busted his ass (not saying the other guys didn't but even i know you get "complacent")
mannnnn i was going to show you guys that first show!!!!! (i was so focused and motivated i did everything i needed to do and then some!/ex: Larry would tell me i needed to do 45 mins of cardio twice a day i did over an hour 2x a day/i never cheated on my diet EVER (i went to bed so hungry i couldn't sleep)
everything was all about the show/every min of every day
every morself of food was logged/just everything was focused and determination
second show i got lazy (complacent") "ahh i only need to diet for 5 weeks" i don't need Larry's help"
"i don't need to write everything down" etc etc
im sure this can happen with these guys as well!!
it's desire and heart!

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The truth and a great post!

Disgusted · « **Reply #51 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:04:00 PM »

Quote from: hazbin on January 25, 2009, 05:42:45 PM

my last show i took one aldactone wed, thurs and fri. moderate carb deplete wed and thurs. loaded on icecream and cheesecake all friday. the bantomweight i travelled with took 3 aldactone a day from monday on and lost 4 lbs.

237 lbs. on thurs, 212 at weighin. i wish i could explain it, and stop it.

Your first sentence is where I stopped reading. Not trying to be a smartass cause I hate to see stuff like this happen plus you seem like a good guy, but this is the standard way to fuk things up before a show. IT DOESN"T WORK!!!!!!! I could tell you why in technical terms, but just take my word for it. In short your body doesn't care what it looks like and will do everything in it's power to keep your potassium and sodium levels in check. Inside you will still be fine (to a degree) but you suffer cosmetically for it.

Disgusted · « **Reply #52 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:08:28 PM »

2 days out, no diuretics, no carbs, normal sodium, lots of water no carb up day of show.

Parker · « **Reply #53 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:14:56 PM »

Quote from: The_Leafy_Bug on January 25, 2009, 12:25:34 PM

The glute area seems to the the toss up. Flex Wheeler has had striated glutes before but that was an area he always had trouble with. Troy could get striated glutes but it might cost him a couple of pounds of muscle that he isn't willing to give up.

Flex had striated glutes partly because he competing at around 216-218 pounds (1993 Arnold and Mr. O). The 1993 Ironman he didn't and he was about 230. It is basically genetics, once he got bigger, that area, the lower back-glute-ham tie in, was trouble for him. And so it is for Melvin Anthony, who is a Flex Wheeler clone. And so does JoJo as well, DeGrimes (?), all have that Flex Wheeler-sque/Brian Buchanan physique. Which is the round full, muscle bellies. Nasser used to tease Flex and say in the mags that he had a big ass. Which has something to do with his genetics and possbily could be traced back to a certain ethnic group, possibly in Ghana, where I believe JoJo is from.

hazbin · « **Reply #54 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:24:18 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on January 25, 2009, 06:04:00 PM

Your first sentence is where I stopped reading. Not trying to be a smartass cause I hate to see stuff like this happen plus you seem like a good guy, but this is the standard way to fuk things up before a show. IT DOESN"T WORK!!!!!!! I could tell you why in technical terms, but just take my word for it. In short your body doesn't care what it looks like and will do everything in it's power to keep your potassium and sodium levels in check. Inside you will still be fine (to a degree) but you suffer cosmetically for it.

it has happened at several shows, that is the only one i did aldactone or any diuretic.

The ChemistV2 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 25, 2009, 08:00:46 PM »

Quote from: hazbin on January 25, 2009, 06:24:18 PM

it has happened at several shows, that is the only one i did aldactone or any diuretic.

I knew a guy like that once...he'd lose a lot of weight the last two weeks without doing much. When I observed him, he seemed to be extremely hyper. My theory was his nerves and psychological make up caused him to release a huge amount of adrenaline the last few weeks. Adrenaline is basically the same chemical as epinephrine, which is one of the most potent metabolic accelerators there is and because your own body produces it, you have a very strong reaction since it's your own genetically coded chemical. Did you feel kind of hyper yourself the last few weeks?

WillGrant · « **Reply #56 on:** January 25, 2009, 08:47:53 PM »

Quote from: The_Leafy_Bug on January 25, 2009, 11:40:34 AM

Genetics has nothing to do with getting shredded. Anyone can get big and any one can get lean. He just dieted harder.These other guys are too concerned with being big. That is why they didn't come in lean.

Lol I had to laugh out loud when you quoted Goodrum whilst saying this

hazbin · « **Reply #57 on:** January 25, 2009, 11:55:35 PM »

Quote from: The ChemistV2 on January 25, 2009, 08:00:46 PM

I knew a guy like that once...he'd lose a lot of weight the last two weeks without doing much. When I observed him, he seemed to be extremely hyper. My theory was his nerves and psychological make up caused him to release a huge amount of adrenaline the last few weeks. Adrenaline is basically the same chemical as epinephrine, which is one of the most potent metabolic accelerators there is and because your own body produces it, you have a very strong reaction since it's your own genetically coded chemical. Did you feel kind of hyper yourself the last few weeks?

i always felt a lot of anticipation which i guess could have been nerves. that would result in cortisol release as well as, yes, adrenaline. but disgusted answered it for me - i was way too extreme with my one aldactone a day for 3 days. he's right, i should have been more moderate like Kamali.

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #58 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:29:20 AM »

that is sick conditioning in those pics

Meso_z · « **Reply #59 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:46:50 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on January 25, 2009, 05:42:45 PM

my last show i took one aldactone wed, thurs and fri. moderate carb deplete wed and thurs. loaded on icecream and cheesecake all friday. the bantomweight i travelled with took 3 aldactone a day from monday on and lost 4 lbs.

237 lbs. on thurs, 212 at weighin. i wish i could explain it, and stop it.

forearm vascularity is out of this world!

hazbin · « **Reply #60 on:** January 26, 2009, 01:06:09 AM »

Quote from: Meso_z on January 26, 2009, 12:46:50 AM

forearm vascularity is out of this world!

thanx, my vascularity actually blurred my definition at times.

Meso_z · « **Reply #61 on:** January 26, 2009, 01:10:13 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on January 26, 2009, 01:06:09 AM

thanx, my vascularity actually blurred my definition at times.

Do people comment on your vascularity?

You know "thats awfull", "do you take roids" and stuff like that makes you go (

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njflex · « **Reply #62 on:** January 26, 2009, 09:32:47 AM »

but if u nail it with diuretics and it could be that 1 time ,your the driest you'll ever see but it could be in your favor 1 time.that could be the difference between 1st and 3rd but thats the gamble.

Pecs · « **Reply #63 on:** January 26, 2009, 10:30:49 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on January 26, 2009, 01:06:09 AM

thanx, my vascularity actually blurred my definition at times.

man...your veins are...scary..

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #64 on:** January 26, 2009, 11:56:12 AM »

Quote from: Pecs on January 26, 2009, 10:30:49 AM

man...your veins are...scary..

gee to me they look sublime

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #65 on:** January 26, 2009, 11:58:31 AM »

Quote from: Disgusted on January 25, 2009, 06:08:28 PM

2 days out, no diuretics, no carbs, normal sodium, lots of water no carb up day of show.

king arms suck

Monster_Everything · « **Reply #66 on:** January 26, 2009, 11:59:07 AM »

Quote from: Disgusted on January 25, 2009, 06:08:28 PM

2 days out, no diuretics, no carbs, normal sodium, lots of water no carb up day of show.

he is ripped there but no size whatsoever

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:01:01 PM »

looking good hazbin...
really cut and vascular

sculpture · « **Reply #68 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:06:28 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on January 25, 2009, 06:08:28 PM

2 days out, no diuretics, no carbs, normal sodium, lots of water no carb up day of show.

Looks like dogshit

Give up kamali please

Your arms continue to get worse

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #69 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:09:05 PM »

his biceps seems to be getting shorter and shorter....
his arms look small all of 17 inches...
thats really bad for a pro

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #70 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:10:26 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 26, 2009, 12:09:05 PM

his biceps seems to be getting shorter and shorter....
his arms look small all of 17 inches...
thats really bad for a pro

they do appear garden variety

QuakerOats · « **Reply #71 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:15:14 PM »

King actually looks really good here.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #72 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:16:48 PM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on January 26, 2009, 12:10:26 PM

they do appear garden variety

when he came out in 2001 he looked good... from then its been down hill..
why has his arms deteriorated so badly?

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #73 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:29:31 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on January 26, 2009, 12:16:48 PM

when he came out in 2001 he looked good... from then its been down hill..
why has his arms deteriorated so badly?

yes...i remember when he was rookie of the year...1999-2000 he was very good

Disgusted · « **Reply #74 on:** January 26, 2009, 12:29:52 PM »

Quote from: hazbin on January 25, 2009, 11:55:35 PM

i always felt a lot of anticipation which i guess could have been nerves. that would result in cortisol release as well as, yes, adrenaline. but disgusted answered it for me - i was way too extreme with my one aldactone a day for 3 days. he's right, i should have been more moderate like Kamali.

Carb depletion plus aldactone, plus water depletion, plus sodium restriction, plus eating a bunch of crap the night before the show = what you will always look like on stage. Cortisol has NOTHING to do with it. If you think that the anticipation of your show is making your adrenals produce anymore cortisol than a good workout you need to do a little research about the human body instead of relying on some guru at the last minute to "produce a miracle".