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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #175 on: March 15, 2009, 02:12:31 PM »
I can tell you must be several years younger than me quicker, I am 27.  When I was younger I thought the way you do but now as I get older the wife, house, dog, kids, seems kinda appealing.  But like I said the thing is you really gotta find the right girl.  IMO she should definately be attractive but you must be able to talk to her, respect her, and pretty much be best friends.  One can never use too much caution when selecting a wife.  Just have to think with your big head and be very picky BEFORE saying "I do."  I believe good marriages are still possible if you can find the right woman and put in some due dilligence. 
im 28 man, its all in your mind mate, you want this dream that has been built up in your mind, only for it to turn into a nightmare

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #176 on: March 15, 2009, 02:15:14 PM »
Quicker you definately always give me something to think about.  No doubt about it. 

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #177 on: March 15, 2009, 02:20:33 PM »
Quicker you definately always give me something to think about.  No doubt about it. 
i try help people and make em happy, i deal with married people daily, every day, it is not FUN, its another job, if you are single and u get laid off work you could take all the time off in the world if you wanted, but if you are married, the wife will never let that happen "what do you mean you got sacked" "we have to by our son books for school, and the car needs to be fixed, it keeps making that sound"..try catching up with your mates for a drink "where are you? when are you coming back? who are you with? fuck that

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #178 on: March 15, 2009, 02:22:31 PM »
i try help people and make em happy, i deal with married people daily, every day, it is not FUN, its another job, if you are single and u get laid off work you could take all the time off in the world if you wanted, but if you are married, the wife will never let that happen "what do you mean you got sacked" "we have to by our son books for school, and the car needs to be fixed, it keeps making that sound"..try catching up with your mates for a drink "where are you? when are you coming back? who are you with? fuck that
But that guy ur describing clearly married the wrong girl.  What about the guy who marries his hot best friend?  Or does the turn into the nagging bitch? 

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #179 on: March 15, 2009, 02:26:12 PM »
But that guy ur describing clearly married the wrong girl.  What about the guy who marries his hot best friend?  Or does the turn into the nagging bitch? 
what wrong girl??? if it was the wrong girl no one would marry the bitch, calfzilla, people change, men change and woman change even more, the right girl today is the the wrong slut tomorrow, its goes for both men and women, we all change, females and hormonal like a guy..you could meet the RIGHT girl today can you guarantee me she will stay that way in 2 years?

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #180 on: March 15, 2009, 02:27:48 PM »
what wrong girl??? if it was the wrong girl no one would marry the bitch, calfzilla, people change, men change and woman change even more, the right girl today is the the wrong slut tomorrow, its goes for both men and women, we all change, females and hormonal like a ####..you could meet the RIGHT girl today can you guarantee me she will stay that way in 2 years?
No sir.  I'm calling my divorce lawyer first thing tomorrow morning to get him on a retainer.   :(

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #181 on: March 15, 2009, 02:30:43 PM »
No sir.  I'm calling my divorce lawyer first thing tomorrow morning to get him on a retainer.   :(
hahahaHAHAH, look at all your ex girlfriends, why are you not with them?? they changed right, evolution is a guy, but in all seriousness, i would love to find the right girl and so do you but im not going to commit my whole energy towards it, i make a better casual dater than a husband.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #182 on: March 22, 2009, 08:02:04 AM »
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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #183 on: March 22, 2009, 05:09:01 PM »
Normally I would come by and say some funny thing about the biggest handcuff for a man is a wedding ring.  But honestly, if you have a good woman, one that means the world to you and you can see her being a big part of your future, then be smart and marry her.  Make yourselves happy.  I found someone that I laughed hard with, loved passionately and and could lose myself with.  Needless to say I screwed up with her. Hopefully it's not completely over and I can get her back. Hopefully.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #184 on: April 15, 2009, 06:03:32 AM »
The answer is: YES!  And this is coming from a happily married man...

in the end, it hardly ever works to the man's benefit to get married.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #185 on: May 08, 2009, 01:41:31 PM »
Have Anti-Father Family Court Policies Led to a Men's Marriage Strike?
July 9, 2002

by Glenn Sacks and Dianna Thompson


Kathleen is attractive, successful, witty, and educated. She also can't find a husband. Why? Because most of the men this thirty-something software analyst dates do not want to get married. These men have Peter Pan Syndrome--they refuse to commit, refuse to settle down, and refuse to "grow up."

However, given the family court policies and divorce trends of today, Peter Pan is no naive boy, but instead a wise man.

"Why should I get married and have kids when I could lose those kids and most of what I've worked for at a moment's notice?" asks Dan, a 31 year-old power plant technician who says he will never marry. "I've seen it happen to many of my friends. I know guys who came home one day to an empty house or apartment--wife gone, kids gone. They never saw it coming. Some of them were never able to see their kids regularly again."

The US marriage rate has dipped 40% over the past four decades, to its lowest point ever. There are many plausible explanations for this trend, but one of the least mentioned is that American men, in the face of a family court system which is hopelessly stacked against them, have subconsciously launched a "marriage strike."

It is not difficult to see why. Let's say that Dan defies Peter Pan, marries Kathleen, and has two children. There is a 50% likelihood that this marriage will end in divorce within eight years, and if it does the odds are two to one that it will be Kathleen, not Dan, who initiates the divorce. It may not matter that Dan was a decent husband--studies show that few divorces are initiated over abuse or because the man has already abandoned the family. Nor is adultery cited as a factor by divorcing women appreciably more than by divorcing men.

While the courts may grant Dan and Kathleen joint legal custody, the odds are overwhelming that it is Kathleen, not Dan, who will win physical custody. Over night Dan, accustomed to seeing his kids every day and being an integral part of their lives, will become a "14 percent dad"--a father who is allowed to spend only one out of every 7 days with his own children.

Once divorced, odds are at least even that Dan's ex-wife will interfere with his visitation rights. Three-quarters of divorced men surveyed say their ex-wives have interfered with their visitation, and 40% of mothers studied admitted that they had done so, and that they had generally acted out of spite or in order to punish their exes.

Kathleen will keep the house and most of the couple's assets. Dan will need to set up a new residence and pay at least a third of his take home pay to Kathleen in child support.

As bad as all of this is, it would still make Dan one of the lucky ones. After all, he could be one of those fathers who cannot see his children at all because his ex has made a false accusation of domestic violence, child abuse, or child molestation. Or a father who can only see his own children under supervised visitation or in nightmarish visitation centers where dads are treated like criminals.

He could be one of those fathers whose ex has moved their children hundreds or thousands of miles away, in violation of court orders which courts often do not enforce. He could be one of those fathers who tears up his life and career again and again in order to follow his children, only to have his ex-wife continually move them.

He could be one of the fathers who has lost his job, seen his income drop, or suffered a disabling injury, only to have child support arrearages and interest pile up to create a mountain of debt which he could never hope to pay off. Or a father who is forced to pay 70% or 80% of his income in child support because the court has imputed an unrealistic income to him. Or a dad who suffers from one of the child support enforcement system's endless and difficult to correct errors, or who is jailed because he cannot keep up with his payments. Or a dad who reaches old age impoverished because he lost everything he had in a divorce when he was middle-aged and did not have the time and the opportunity to earn it back.

"It's a shame," Dan says. "I always wanted to be a father and have a family. But unless the laws change and give fathers the same right to be a part of their children's lives as mothers have, it just isn't worth the risk."


This column first appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer (7/5/02)



Glenn Sacks writes about gender issues from the male perspective. His columns have appeared in the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, Newsday, the Houston Chronicle, the San Francisco Chronicle, the Philadelphia Inquirer, the San Diego Union-Tribune, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Los Angeles Daily News, the Washington Times and others. He invites readers to visit his website at www.GlennSacks.com.

Dianna Thompson is director of the Second Wives Crusade and executive director of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children.

http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2002/0709a.html

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #186 on: May 08, 2009, 01:46:30 PM »
The National Center for Health Statistics reports that from 1975 to 1988 in the US, in families with children present, wives file for divorce in approximately two-thirds of cases. In 1975, 71.4% of the cases were filed by women, and in 1988, 65% were filed by women.[1]

According to a study published in the American Law and Economics Review, women currently file slightly more than two-thirds of divorce cases in the US.[2]There is some variation among states, and the numbers have also varied over time, with about 60% of filings by women in most of the 19th century, and over 70% by women in some states just after no-fault divorce was introduced, according to the paper. Evidence is given that among college-educated couples, the percentages of divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%.

In their study titled "Child Custody Policies and Divorce Rates in the US," Kuhn and Guidubaldi find it reasonable to conclude that women anticipate advantages to being single, rather than remaining married.[3]

When women anticipate a clear gender bias the courts regarding custody, they expect to be the primary residential parent for the children and the resulting financial child support, maintaining the marital residence, receiving half of all marital property, and gaining total freedom to establish new social relationships. In their detailed analysis of divorce rates, Kuhn and Guidubaldi conclude that acceptance of joint physical custody may reduce divorce. States whose family law policies, statutes, or judicial practice encourage joint custody have shown a greater decline in their divorce rates than those that favor sole custody.
 
1. "Advance Report of Final Divorce Statistics, 1988" (PDF) (1991-05-21). Monthly Vital Statistice Report 39 (12 (supplement 2)). 

2. Brinig, Margaret; Douglas W. Allen (2000). "These Boots Are Made for Walking: Why Most Divorce Filers are Women". American Law and Economics Review 2 (1): 126–129. 

3. Kuhn, Richard; John Guidubaldi (1997-10-23). "Child Custody Policies and Divorce Rates in the US". 11th Annual Conference of the Children's Rights Council. Retrieved on 2006-09-18. 

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #187 on: May 08, 2009, 04:37:42 PM »
But that guy ur describing clearly married the wrong girl.  What about the guy who marries his hot best friend?  Or does the turn into the nagging bitch? 

Women tend not to date nor marry, the best friend (male friend) he's there for a reason, a girlfriend with a penis. Now, becoming best friends is another reason.
Women always nag, it's in their nature, they are nuturers by nature, so making sure you have taking care of the "essentials" is essential for them but the "nagging bitch" I believe is what many (not all) become.

I have always been told I would make a good husband, and blah, blah, blah. But at 32, I'm increasing seeing more women with tons more baggage, and I feel that it's unfair for me as a man to sort thru all of that. Erykah Badu had a song called Bag Lady, and I see tons of them, I deal with them on a daily basis.

For me its really confusing, we wnat that special woman, but it seems like she is more of a mirage than anything else. Doc would kill me for saying, I wanna settle down with one. But that has always been my mentality.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #188 on: May 09, 2009, 06:16:43 AM »
A marriage is a job that takes two. If one is working hard at it...it's going to fail.  The trick is knowing if your mate is a hard worker, or just a slug.  ;)  It works both ways. 

I agree that women romanticise weddings/marriage.  But I don't agree about how men look at it.  I think men look at marriage in fear of what they will lose (money, freedom, other women, etc).

It's sad, because you should get married knowing that you WANT to spend the rest of your life with this person and only this person and that NO ONE else in the world makes you as comfortable and happy and whom you can always count on no matter what the circumstances.  Seems now people get married without really considering those things.

Even when the two people get along great...it's still work.  The trick is enjoy it.  People are constantly growing and experiencing new things.  For some marriages it's an easy process, for others...not so easy.  But if you think it isn't work that "makes it work", you are sadly mistaken.  But that is just my opinion and experience as I have done it twice already. ;)

We're not married Techno, but we've been together 4 wonderful years.  :D

Hi Laura Lee!  I appreciate your input here, and I mean no disrespect!  But what exactly are you defending here?  Marriage?  How can you defend marriage when you have been divorced twice, and the man who you've been living with for the past four years, the man whom you love and who loves you back, is not your husband? 

Not that this is any of my business.  It's your life and you do with it as you want to.  But if anything, this only supports big L dawg's point that marriage is not the way to go, and discourages anybody here who has doubts about getting married, and encourages anybody here who might be contemplating divorce.

If you are really pro-marriage, then why not marry the man whom you love and who loves you back, and since you already found him and are happy with him?  Otherwise, why defend marriage here?

This is a great thread, by the way!   ;D

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #189 on: May 09, 2009, 06:21:05 AM »
After 4 years.... it it ain't broke, don't fix it. :)

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #190 on: May 09, 2009, 06:27:36 AM »
After 4 years.... it it ain't broke, don't fix it. :)

Like I said, people are free to do what they want to.  It is none of my business.  But then why defend marriage here?  This actually defends cohabitation, without marriage.  This actually proves big L dawg's point that marriage is not the way to go, at least in this case.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #191 on: May 09, 2009, 06:33:49 AM »
Like I said, people are free to do what they want to.  It is none of my business.  But then why defend marriage here?  This actually defends cohabitation, without marriage.  This actually proves big L dawg's point that marriage is not the way to go, at least in this case.

People are defending the fantasy, not marriage itself.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #192 on: January 02, 2010, 03:10:00 PM »
bump 4 the fact it's still the dumbest thing a man can do.....were would tiger be had he not got married...
still on top of the world thats were...instead he's hiding out worse than osama and the taliban...
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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #193 on: January 02, 2010, 03:48:59 PM »
I'm currently married and... to be honest with you... I'm not entirely convinced a marriage is the best emotional contract between a man and a woman.

As we age men's indifference goes up exponentially (apart from sports and some other things) while most women become control freaks.

On the one hand I have a friend who's never gotten married and is into doing these weird group things like reading poetry in bars and stuff like that. I also have a friend at work who recently got divorced and the guy looks like he took 15 years off and is having the time of his life. BOTH look and sound happy though.

On the other hand I've got my married friends... with our pathetic "Did you put up the Christmas decorations?" and how to clean the gutters conversations.

And the fact that women don't find out what the clitoris is for until they're 50 is also a shame, as the sex life definitely takes a dive. 

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #194 on: January 02, 2010, 03:50:32 PM »
I'm currently married and... to be honest with you... I'm not entirely convinced a marriage is the best emotional contract between a man and a woman.

As we age men's indifference goes up exponentially (apart from sports and some other things) while most women become control freaks.

On the one hand I have a friend who's never gotten married and is into doing these weird group things like reading poetry in bars and stuff like that. I also have a friend at work who recently got divorced and the guy looks like he took 15 years off and is having the time of his life. BOTH look and sound happy though.

On the other hand I've got my married friends... with our pathetic "Did you put up the Christmas decorations?" and how to clean the gutters conversations.

And the fact that women don't find out what the clitoris is for until they're 50 is also a shame, as the sex life definitely takes a dive. 


hows the married sex life???

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #195 on: January 02, 2010, 03:53:11 PM »
I'm currently married and... to be honest with you... I'm not entirely convinced a marriage is the best emotional contract between a man and a woman.

As we age men's indifference goes up exponentially (apart from sports and some other things) while most women become control freaks.

On the one hand I have a friend who's never gotten married and is into doing these weird group things like reading poetry in bars and stuff like that. I also have a friend at work who recently got divorced and the guy looks like he took 15 years off and is having the time of his life. BOTH look and sound happy though.

On the other hand I've got my married friends... with our pathetic "Did you put up the Christmas decorations?" and how to clean the gutters conversations.

And the fact that women don't find out what the clitoris is for until they're 50 is also a shame, as the sex life definitely takes a dive. 

what you are feeling are your natural genetic predisposition-ed urges to spread your seed...It's ingrained in your DNA.even if you have kids and had a vasectomy and don't want or plan to have any more...the uneasy feeling you have is your body's primal scream for freedom...you are likely not an alpha male if you have let your wife keep you in a box and must get into arguments simply to go out with friends....don't feel bad some men are meant to be told what to do & how to live there lives by a female...these men usually have abnormally low testosterone & self esteem.and are without a "backbone" if you will...If you are one of these men my condolence's....

Ps sorry 4 the repost dude just figuered you would get more out of this thread....also I'm not flaming you in the above post just callin it like it is...best of luck bro....
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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #196 on: January 02, 2010, 03:57:15 PM »
what you are feeling are your natural genetic predisposition-ed urges to spread your seed...It's ingrained in your DNA.even if you have kids and had a vasectomy and don't want or plan to have any more...the uneasy feeling you have is your body's primal scream for freedom...you are likely not an alpha male if you have let your wife keep you in a box and must get into arguments simply to go out with friends....don't feel bad some men are meant to be told what to do & how to live there lives by a female...these men usually have abnormally low testosterone & self esteem.and are without a "backbone" if you will...If you are one of these men my condolence's....

Ps sorry 4 the repost dude just figuered you would get more out of this thread....also I'm not flaming you in the above post just callin it like it is...best of luck bro....

Big L dawg have u been married?

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #197 on: January 02, 2010, 03:57:54 PM »
hows the married sex life???

Virtually nonexistant.

And that applies to about 85% of married couples.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #198 on: January 02, 2010, 03:58:35 PM »
Big L dawg have u been married?

Big L dawg doesn't get married.

He pimps life.

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Re: Geting married..Dumbest thing a man can do?
« Reply #199 on: January 02, 2010, 04:01:18 PM »
Virtually nonexistant.

And that applies to about 85% of married couples.

hold on, so if im in bed with my wife and my dick gets hard and i wanna fuck the odds of me sexing her is low?????