look at ray very veyr carefully here,,this is what bodybuilder FREE OF OIL LOOK LIKE as in no syntol,,
now take a look at that joke called phillip heath....and yuo will find what happened to bodybuilding,,
jason cutler and philip heath took it way too far ,,phillip heth unlike jason can pull it off but you can already tell he look like shit torso is too sall in relashion to arms,,it is NOT how bodybuilding should be
he should implent some new calvicles insted then maybe hed start looking impressive in comparison to hany dorian and ron until then anything he get will always be seen as generation nothingness best offer for the masses ,,sad