Obama to sit down with FIVE Network News Anchors Tomorrow.

[Straw Man]

$248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters


Are they serious? They can build a furniture factory for that sum lol.

This seriously make me think this list is some joke or something lol.

good question

that building better be empty

since it is  Homeland Security which was created by Bush it's probably in shambles but still that seems like way too much money for some desks and file cabinets

[240 is Back]

The "CommunistNewsNetwork" doesn't even qualify as a legit source.

FOX news was the FIRST network to report Palin/Africa story, rememebr

I guess they're all out to get the poor repubs.

[CQ]

I think some stuff may be deeper and more vital then it appears.

Like after thay Hudson plane crash, all the aviation folks were saying the Gov has not funded it properly, and they need cash to study and document birds migrations habits to prevent incidents like that and save lives. I was unware of this prior, and if I had`read a cash infusion for studying birds I would have found that uber gay.

Somethings when delved into and full knowledge obtained make sense I guess.

The only thing that appears to me to be a clear waste of cash is 250 million for furniture. I am sure the offices are big, but cut the crap go down IKEA and spend a million and be done.

[tonymctones]

all I see are a lot of jobs

why shouldn't the Coast Guard design a new icebreaker?

why should we give rich guys tax breaks and then sit back and hope they create a job?

im not saying anything about tax breaks bro what im saying is that this shit is frivolous spending and again why not give money to the porn industry, gun industry...will that not create jobs as well the whole it "creates jobs argument" is weak anything will create jobs doesnt mean its an efficient way of spending money right now.

[Straw Man]

im not saying anything about tax breaks bro what im saying is that this shit is frivolous spending and again why not give money to the porn industry, gun industry...will that not create jobs as well the whole it "creates jobs argument" is weak anything will create jobs doesnt mean its an efficient way of spending money right now.

I don't know that anything is frivilous without more detail

I'm a fan of porn but I don't think my tax $$$'s are needed to support it

worst case I can just think about girls I know in real life when I jack off

 

[tonymctones]

I don't know that anything is frivilous without more detail

I'm a fan of porn but I don't thin my tax $$$'s are needed to support it

worst case I can just think about girls I know in real life when I jack off

 

LOL but it would create jobs, why shouldnt the whores have jobs?

[Straw Man]

LOL but it would create jobs, why shouldnt the whores have jobs?

personally I'd be ok with it but I can see where some people might object

you're right though that it would create jobs

just like a lot of stuff on that list

[Hugo Chavez]

again bro nobody is argueing that jobs wont be created you throw money at any industry and jobs will be created shit give me a million ill start a porn site and that will create jobs. what we are saying is that there are better more efficient ways of spending the money.

"And first off the government doesn’t create jobs. Let’s get this notion out of our heads that the government creates jobs. Not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job,” - newly elected RNC chairman Michael Steele.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=261603.msg3688961#msg3688961

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

all I see are a lot of jobs

why shouldn't the Coast Guard design a new icebreaker?

why should we give rich guys tax breaks and then sit back and hope they create a job?

why shouldnt all men get enlargements?  Why cant a woman have 14 kids and the government supports them?  why not....why cant I be homeless and still have a home?  why not.....

[shootfighter1]

240, you made a huge leap in assumption.  Thats a list of the items they all agree are wasteful and are trying to debate.  If they wrote the bill it would look much different...but they understand they are the minority.  Plenty of republicans feel much of the package is unacceptible but are going to step aside (or be pushed aside) to get something passed because of the pressure being put on them by the administration.  I believe they should stick to their guns and oppose the whole thing unless re-written.

The only things I'd want to see in this economic stimulus bill are:
Payroll tax cuts
Capital gains tax cuts
Infrastructure spending
Increasing unemployment benefits (and extending benefits) to people out of work.
Tax breaks for home purchases in 2009.

[Straw Man]

why shouldnt all men get enlargements?  Why cant a woman have 14 kids and the government supports them?  why not....why cant I be homeless and still have a home?  why not.....

you can't see the utility in the Coast Guard having an icebreaker?

Do you really think that's a valid comparison to cosmetic surgery?

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

you can't see the utility in the Coast Guard having an icebreaker?

Do you really think that's a valid comparison to cosmetic surgery?

is it valid at all what your trying to validate  if the coast guard asked for a 50k toilet seat with gold rims on it so that they dont get bad rashes on their butts is that valid for a 50k toilet seat?  If the coast guard wanted to guard saudia arabia sands do they deserve a new ship to sail the sand is that valid  just because someting saids, "FBI, coast guard, navy, etc..." does not make something valid to be given away to waste money.

[Straw Man]

is it valid at all what your trying to validate  if the coast guard asked for a 50k toilet seat with gold rims on it so that they dont get bad rashes on their butts is that valid for a 50k toilet seat?  If the coast guard wanted to guard saudia arabia sands do they deserve a new ship to sail the sand is that valid  just because someting saids, "FBI, coast guard, navy, etc..." does not make something valid to be given away to waste money.

I've already specified that we can't determine what's good/bad, wasteful or not from just a line item and a dollar amount.

I'm sure you can see the difference (I hope) with an icebreaking ship for the coast guard and a golden toilet seat or a boob job.  If the Coast Guard doesn't think they need an icebreaker then I'm sure they can speak up and say so.

[240 is Back]

Plenty of republicans feel much of the package is unacceptible but are going to step aside (or be pushed aside) to get something passed because of the pressure being put on them by the administration. 

NONE in the house are.  The house repubs voted unanimously to bounce the bill.

Who are the plenty of repubs in the senate that are passing it?

[shootfighter1]

We'll see as this plays out.  My point is that I disagree that senate republicans agree with 95%+ of the provisions.  They may only be fighting what they feel are the worst issues.  That doesn't mean they agree with the rest....and if they do, then they are no better than the rest of the lot.  Few have respect for our tax dollars anymore, yet many are ok with increasing gov power, spending and control??