Author Topic: jrod - growing like a weed (Read 18018 times)

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #150 on:** February 06, 2009, 01:55:33 AM »

Quote from: Honour on February 05, 2009, 03:05:19 PM

I think he's natural, I am Nowhere near his level but in the last 2 years I have come a LONG LONG way and often get the "are you on steroids" questions from people at work (and yeah I love it ). It's funny tho I'm in my 30's now and eat very well all the time, makes you wonder how some of us could have looked if we had the same diet knowledge when we were in the early 20's . So yeah I think JRod is a nattie, and seems like a nice guy as well .

webcake · « **Reply #151 on:** February 06, 2009, 01:56:45 AM »

Ignorance is bliss..... $:-\$

Method101 · « **Reply #152 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:05:31 AM »

Quote from: webcke on February 06, 2009, 01:56:45 AM

Ignorance is bliss..... $:-\$

Like i said. POST A PICTURE OF WHAT YOU THINK IS THE LIMIT OF NATURAL BODYBUILDING.

DK II · « **Reply #153 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:06:23 AM »

Quote from: sevastase on February 06, 2009, 01:55:33 AM

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162166.0

webcake · « **Reply #154 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:10:31 AM »

Quote from: Method101 on February 06, 2009, 02:05:31 AM

Like i said. POST A PICTURE OF WHAT YOU THINK IS THE LIMIT OF NATURAL BODYBUILDING.

It's too hard to just post a pic.

Do you know how many supposed natties aren't natural.....?

gh15 says Layne Norton isn't natural.....but if he was natural.....he would definietly be in the upper echelon of natural development.

DK II · « **Reply #155 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:19:57 AM »

Quote from: webcke on February 06, 2009, 02:10:31 AM

It's too hard to just post a pic.

Do you know how many supposed natties aren't natural.....?

gh15 says Layne Norton isn't natural.....but if he was natural.....he would definietly be in the upper echelon of natural development.

gh15 says aliens from Planet nibiru build the pyramids with anti-gravity-element115-laser-scalpels. hope this helps.

Method101 · « **Reply #156 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:21:42 AM »

I just noticed that this guy is endorsed by Dave Palumbo's supplement company.
Any bodybuilder in close contact with Palumbo probably is not natural lol.

webcake · « **Reply #157 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:21:52 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on February 06, 2009, 02:19:57 AM

gh15 says aliens from Planet nibiru build the pyramids with anti-gravity-element115-laser-scalpels. hope this helps.

Yes, but gh15 himself said that he just said that shit to keep people entertained.

His drug knowledge is top notch...

DK II · « **Reply #158 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:36:56 AM »

Quote from: Method101 on February 06, 2009, 02:21:42 AM

I just noticed that this guy is endorsed by Dave Palumbo's supplement company.
Any bodybuilder in close contact with Palumbo probably is not natural lol.

since when is shooting fake gear NOT natural??

Quote from: webcke on February 06, 2009, 02:21:52 AM

Yes, but gh15 himself said that he just said that shit to keep people entertained.

His drug knowledge is top notch...

reverse reverse psychology, huh?

Super Natural · « **Reply #159 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:26:05 AM »

Quote from: sevastase on February 05, 2009, 04:09:10 AM

wake up ...this guy is hormonized to the max as well as the guy in the bedroom ..these 2 would not be over 155 lbs dry and peeled as natties not to mention they would be flat as hell

when ya'll gonna learn $:-\$

Method101 · « **Reply #160 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:30:02 AM »

Quote from: Super Natural on February 06, 2009, 04:26:05 AM

hi 'jrod'

Fatpanda · « **Reply #161 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:02:39 AM »

a lot of hate towards jrod in this thread

you all have to remember he is the role model for using scientific knowledge to build muscle.

1. he uses a workout routine that has been shown to stimulate maximum protein synthesis + strength while keeping cortisol to a minimum. ( yes i can back this with studies)
2. he uses the best possible pre/during/post workout nutrition - shown to increase protein synthesis 400+% reducing cortisol etc.
3. he is extremely methodical with his diet - a diet which has been backed by science to spare maximum protein while dieting, while still providing enough carbs to fuel his workouts. Also when he reduces calories he lowers them very very slowly - again helping keep maximum muscle while dieting.
4. he is extremely methodical with his workouts, using perfect text book form and focussing on the negative with every exercise.

While most in the know, up to date bodybuilders in general may have read about the importance of these factors for maximum effectiveness in your bodybuilding endeavours, how many can honestly say they do everyone 100% of the time?

Don't hate, Appreciate

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #162 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:24:35 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on February 06, 2009, 05:02:39 AM

a lot of hate towards jrod in this thread

you all have to remember he is the role model for using scientific knowledge to build muscle.

1. he uses a workout routine that has been shown to stimulate maximum protein synthesis + strength while keeping cortisol to a minimum. ( yes i can back this with studies)
2. he uses the best possible pre/during/post workout nutrition - shown to increase protein synthesis 400+% reducing cortisol etc.
3. he is extremely methodical with his diet - a diet which has been backed by science to spare maximum protein while dieting, while still providing enough carbs to fuel his workouts. Also when he reduces calories he lowers them very very slowly - again helping keep maximum muscle while dieting.
4. he is extremely methodical with his workouts, using perfect text book form and focussing on the negative with every exercise.

While most in the know, up to date bodybuilders in general may have read about the importance of these factors for maximum effectiveness in your bodybuilding endeavours, how many can honestly say they do everyone 100% of the time?

Don't hate, Appreciate

Yes, all that. What is his AAS stack like?

Fatpanda · « **Reply #163 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:27:02 AM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on February 06, 2009, 05:24:35 AM

Yes, all that. What is his AAS stack like?

whey and creatine

DK II · « **Reply #164 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:28:09 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on February 06, 2009, 05:27:02 AM

whey and creatine

Are you positive he uses no NoXplode??

Fatpanda · « **Reply #165 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:30:34 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on February 06, 2009, 05:28:09 AM

Are you positive he uses no NoXplode??

$:-\$ maybe...... jeff ?

i read he's now using beta alanine.

DK II · « **Reply #166 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:32:00 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on February 06, 2009, 05:30:34 AM

$:-\$ maybe...... jeff ?

i read he's now using beta alanine.

Helps with overtraining! Combined with creatine and NoXplode, the results are amazing!

Super Natural · « **Reply #167 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:38:11 AM »

Quote from: Method101 on February 06, 2009, 04:30:02 AM

hi 'jrod'

chainsaw · « **Reply #168 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:51:49 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on February 05, 2009, 02:03:05 AM

you can, and he does.

if you diet correctly ( as he does), workout correctly (as he does), use correct nutrient timing ( as he does) its very achievable.

and he's not 205 he competes around 175 - although he's looking bigger now

You my fruend are in complete denial; Natural to you must be 1 gram of test a week.

mazrim · « **Reply #169 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:52:53 AM »

Quote from: Fatpanda on February 06, 2009, 05:02:39 AM

a lot of hate towards jrod in this thread

you all have to remember he is the role model for using scientific knowledge to build muscle.

1. he uses a workout routine that has been shown to stimulate maximum protein synthesis + strength while keeping cortisol to a minimum. ( yes i can back this with studies)
2. he uses the best possible pre/during/post workout nutrition - shown to increase protein synthesis 400+% reducing cortisol etc.
3. he is extremely methodical with his diet - a diet which has been backed by science to spare maximum protein while dieting, while still providing enough carbs to fuel his workouts. Also when he reduces calories he lowers them very very slowly - again helping keep maximum muscle while dieting.
4. he is extremely methodical with his workouts, using perfect text book form and focussing on the negative with every exercise.

While most in the know, up to date bodybuilders in general may have read about the importance of these factors for maximum effectiveness in your bodybuilding endeavours, how many can honestly say they do everyone 100% of the time?

Don't hate, Appreciate

Could you post a few studies or send me some on these? Particularly the diet aspect (pre-post, etc.). He basically uses the Max-OT diet with very minimal change. I used to do that but the protein intake was monstrous.
I thought you were an advocate of eating 3 meals a day similar and he eats like 7 or 8.

Sir Humphrey · « **Reply #170 on:** February 06, 2009, 06:01:29 AM »

About as natural as these

Fatpanda · « **Reply #171 on:** February 06, 2009, 06:32:19 AM »

Quote from: mazrim on February 06, 2009, 05:52:53 AM

Could you post a few studies or send me some on these? Particularly the diet aspect (pre-post, etc.). He basically uses the Max-OT diet with very minimal change. I used to do that but the protein intake was monstrous.
I thought you were an advocate of eating 3 meals a day similar and he eats like 7 or 8.

i advocate 4 meals a day - every 5 hours the 4th meal always being a 100g milk protein drink before bed ( as a 40g casein shake has been shown to take approx 7 hours to digest, with protein synthesis remaining elevated the whole time). i also have a pre workout drink ( 500ml of milk+ 10g creatine).

I have came to this conclusion from reading many studies on meal frequency, diets, synthsis rates/timescales etc that show either no difference or a slight benefit to the lower frequency in terms of muscle and strength gain.

these are just a few studies of many, but are good enjoy:

https://ecss2007.cc.jyu.fi/schedule/proceedings/pdf/1796.pdf (this shows why lower frequency meals are better for strength and muscle mass)
http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/conference_presentations/ISSNConference_200806_Layne.pdf ( this explains why you get a better synthesis responce with longer breaks between meals)
http://www.sportsnutritionsociety.org/conference_presentations/ISSNConference_200606_Cribb.pdf (highlights the amazing effects of pre/post supplementation and also highlights how important creatine is for the best effect )
http://www.nutritionj.com/content/pdf/1475-2891-7-23.pdf ( The benefits of high protein diets in sparing muscle while in reduced calories)

Method101 · « **Reply #172 on:** February 06, 2009, 06:50:41 AM »

tommywishbone · « **Reply #173 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:12:20 AM »

Quote from: webcke on February 06, 2009, 02:21:52 AM

Yes, but gh15 himself said that he just said that shit to keep people entertained.

His drug knowledge is top notch...

gh15's knownledge of anabolics could easily be obtained from training at Gold's Gym Venice, or any serious bodybuilding gym for one year.

He also insist the Egyptian pyramids are made of concrete.

DK II · « **Reply #174 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:13:32 AM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on February 06, 2009, 07:12:20 AM

gh15's knownledge of anabolics could easily be obtained from training at Gold's Gym Venice, or any serious bodybuilding gym for one year.

He also insist the Egyptian pyramids are made of concrete.

And that the aliens have solar panel infrared remote control eyes.