Author Topic: what is it with people who go low carb? (Read 2541 times)

boonstack · « **on:** February 07, 2009, 04:16:06 PM »

you need to bathe your body in complex carbs...

excess fat doesnt come from extra carbs, it comes from too much dietary fat. the science is so strong on this, yet so many still follow low carb diet

Miss Karen · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:24:42 PM »

It's because the weight comes OFF and most people Don't give a Fuck if it's Muscle or FAT.

Soundness · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:32:07 PM »

Quote from: Miss Karen on February 07, 2009, 04:24:42 PM

It's because the weight comes OFF and most people Don't give a Fuck if it's Muscle or FAT.

Fuckin all fuckin true, Karen. These mother fuckers get stringy like shit weeds. The bitches skin gets loose, patters in the air like god damn dust shatterin. The muscle is sucked dry shit we're talkin like a god damn fuckin MUMMY! $:-\$

What role do you believe glucogenesis plays, here?

Miss Karen · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:39:18 PM »

For an out of body experience try 14 days 0ZERO Fucking carbs now that is a trip.Ketone sticks are all brown and ammonium levels go through the roof but man watch that weight run off.

pumphard · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:42:43 PM »

Tell me what your body needs carbs for when you're dieting?

Miss Karen · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:44:33 PM »

If you are Not using Drugs the carbs are a nice little energy giver.IMO.

Griffith · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:02:35 PM »

Quote from: Miss Karen on February 07, 2009, 04:39:18 PM

For an out of body experience try 14 days 0ZERO Fucking carbs now that is a trip.Ketone sticks are all brown and ammonium levels go through the roof but man watch that weight run off.

Been there.....prefer to stay just above ketosis if I go that route again.
But you're right, the weight fly's off and my stomach felt like an inferno and I could eat as much protein as I wanted without ever really feeling full. It was insane. I used a teaspoon of peanut-butter every now and then for energy as well as lots of caffeine.

The only problem is that lifting weights at the gym was becoming more of a mental challenge than a physical one since I had such little energy. $:-\$
If I did that diet over again I'd down some carbs just before I train....we learn from our mistakes.

But on the plus side, my face was shredded and looking really sharp. So if that's what someone is aiming for it's probably the best diet along with lots of coffee.
The downside is that I effed up and lost too much weight......over 7 kilo's, close to 9 at the worst. A lot of that was muscle, now I'm trying to regain it

big L dawg · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:06:44 PM »

I'v been on it 4 weeks and feel great.

Miss Karen · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:09:28 PM »

Yes Coffee is our friend when carbs are Zero.Most who say they are on Zero are Not really on Zero but when you do have zero Fuck does it work.The old saying Eat like a horse Train like a horse Eat like a cat and train like a cat.Zero carbs and you train like a cat.

Griffith · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:13:18 PM »

Quote from: Miss Karen on February 07, 2009, 05:09:28 PM

Yes Coffee is our friend when carbs are Zero.Most who say they are on Zero are Not really on Zero but when you do have zero Fuck does it work.The old saying Eat like a horse Train like a horse Eat like a cat and train like a cat.Zero carbs and you train like a cat.

I was trying to keep the carbs under 30 grams for 3 days, then carbing up on the fourth.
But I'd say I could be in ketosis at under 50 or possibly a bit more once I've started.

tbombz · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:14:37 PM »

Quote from: boonstack on February 07, 2009, 04:16:06 PM

you need to bathe your body in complex carbs...

excess fat doesnt come from extra carbs, it comes from too much dietary fat. the science is so strong on this, yet so many still follow low carb diet

yeah sure thing retard

Miss Karen · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:16:54 PM »

Generally most with Zero carbs for 4days will be entering Ketosis.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:18:52 PM »

Quote from: boonstack on February 07, 2009, 04:16:06 PM

you need to bathe your body in complex carbs...

excess fat doesnt come from extra carbs, it comes from too much dietary fat. the science is so strong on this, yet so many still follow low carb diet

Really?

Hope you're joking. If not, name me ONE essential amino acid, one essential fatty acid, and one essential carbohydrate.
I'll give you a cookie.

Griffith · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:20:09 PM »

Quote from: Miss Karen on February 07, 2009, 05:16:54 PM

Generally most with Zero carbs for 4days will be entering Ketosis.

Yes, I only carb up like this after about 2 weeks in.

Miss Karen · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:21:21 PM »

You seem to be on the right track.

windsor88 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:32:29 PM »

I am on week 2 of low carb. weight is dropping fast. I find I am not as hungry so eating is something I have to force myself to do or else I would be getting maybe 1200 calories or less a day. Not good for sure. Even weed has not made me hungry.

Griffith · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:36:29 PM »

Quote from: windsor88 on February 07, 2009, 05:32:29 PM

I am on week 2 of low carb. weight is dropping fast. I find I am not as hungry so eating is something I have to force myself to do or else I would be getting maybe 1200 calories or less a day. Not good for sure. Even weed has not made me hungry.

That's why after that it's important to carb up every few days.

Miss Karen · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:37:39 PM »

Quote from: windsor88 on February 07, 2009, 05:32:29 PM

I am on week 2 of low carb. weight is dropping fast. I find I am not as hungry so eating is something I have to force myself to do or else I would be getting maybe 1200 calories or less a day. Not good for sure. Even weed has not made me hungry.

Try B12 injections X two a week

Marty Champions · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2009, 05:40:57 PM »

Quote from: Griffith on February 07, 2009, 05:02:35 PM

Been there.....prefer to stay just above ketosis if I go that route again.
But you're right, the weight fly's off and my stomach felt like an inferno and I could eat as much protein as I wanted without ever really feeling full. It was insane. I used a teaspoon of peanut-butter every now and then for energy as well as lots of caffeine.

The only problem is that lifting weights at the gym was becoming more of a mental challenge than a physical one since I had such little energy. $:-\$
If I did that diet over again I'd down some carbs just before I train....we learn from our mistakes.

But on the plus side, my face was shredded and looking really sharp. So if that's what someone is aiming for it's probably the best diet along with lots of coffee.
The downside is that I effed up and lost too much weight......over 7 kilo's, close to 9 at the worst. A lot of that was muscle, now I'm trying to regain it

dieting doesnt work

your body is designed to handle as much 'workload' as you wish, your muscles and fat compensate, then is where you will find what foods suite you best for energy and everyday eatin and livin

Griffith · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:07:39 PM »

Quote from: Johnny Falcon on February 07, 2009, 05:40:57 PM

dieting doesnt work

your body is designed to handle as much 'workload' as you wish, your muscles and fat compensate, then is where you will find what foods suite you best for energy and everyday eatin and livin

My 'diet' wasn't really to lose weight.
My main reason for such a low carb diet was to reduce water-retention and bloating, mostly my face, also to get rid of constant allergies which I was suffering from. Since my body was relatively lean and my face bloated, I figured my body didn't handle carbs well.

Only recently I've figured out the problem was not carbs as such, but wheat/gluten. Especially bread.
Now I use wheat and sugar free oat biscuits and the problem is gone. So now I can have similar amounts of protein as before but with enough energy as well.

So my 'diet' was originally for this reason and not really to lose weight.

boonstack · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:47:06 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on February 07, 2009, 05:18:52 PM

Really?
Hope you're joking. If not, name me ONE essential amino acid, one essential fatty acid, and one essential carbohydrate.
I'll give you a cookie.

what are you talking about?

meat has all 9 essential amino acids....

i do have knowledge in biochemistry/nutrition "YoungBlood"

the point im making is so many people go on these "low carb diets" yet have no clue what they are doing. Notice i said complex carbs, not simple.

PJim · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:58:26 PM »

You lose bodyfat whichever way you choose to diet. Calories are king. I've cut down low carb, high carb, whatever yaddy yah, bladdy blah, it's all the same. Eat what you want and cover your nutritional bases as a rule of thumb like TA says and you will end up the same way. It wouldn't harm a lot of you to try a more rational "diet".

Marty Champions · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2009, 07:00:58 PM »

Quote from: Griffith on February 07, 2009, 06:07:39 PM

My 'diet' wasn't really to lose weight.
My main reason for such a low carb diet was to reduce water-retention and bloating, mostly my face, also to get rid of constant allergies which I was suffering from. Since my body was relatively lean and my face bloated, I figured my body didn't handle carbs well.

Only recently I've figured out the problem was not carbs as such, but wheat/gluten. Especially bread.
Now I use wheat and sugar free oat biscuits and the problem is gone. So now I can have similar amounts of protein as before but with enough energy as well.

So my 'diet' was originally for this reason and not really to lose weight.

i cant eat sugar or ill get acne, otherwise unlimited foods and any kind of food in ulimited amounts just cant eat sugar

boonstack · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2009, 07:02:20 PM »

Quote from: PJim on February 07, 2009, 06:58:26 PM

You lose bodyfat whichever way you choose to diet. Calories are king. I've cut down low carb, high carb, whatever yaddy yah, bladdy blah, it's all the same. Eat what you want and cover your nutritional bases as a rule of thumb like TA says and you will end up the same way. It wouldn't harm a lot of you to try a more rational "diet".

theres over 30,000 published diets alone. If any single one diet worked, there would be no reason for other 29,999 to exist.

calories come from protein, carbs, fats. And no, high carb, low carb, high fat, low fat, is not all the same. they are very different and your body responds accordingly.

PJim · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2009, 07:06:36 PM »

Quote from: boonstack on February 07, 2009, 07:02:20 PM

theres over 30,000 published diets alone. If any single one diet worked, there would be no reason for other 29,999 to exist.

calories come from protein, carbs, fats. And no, high carb, low carb, high fat, low fat, is not all the same. they are very different and your body responds accordingly.

I said,"Cover your nutritional bases."