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Re: New Computer - Need some help
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2009, 11:04:48 AM »
Come on now dude.  We are talking about a quad core processor.  1.8ghz quad core is much faster than a non quad/dual core 3 ghz.

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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2009, 11:10:46 AM »
I recently changed over to Fios and unless I'm somewhat close to the wireless setup(whatever it's called) my computer runs slow. If I'm in the same room, it's extremely fast. This is in contrast to when I had the Linksys wireless system. I've heard you can combine the Linksys to the Fios to increase power. Anyone know anything about this?   Any other suggestions, like maybe placement of the wireless tower, etc.?

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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 11:13:38 AM »
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227126

this one looks a little better, but the price went up about double

Of course the price is double, but lets be realistic.  Who here needs a 3ghz processor?  Does anyone here know the advantages to quad core?

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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2009, 11:58:06 AM »
what are they? Greater multitasking?

Well first off, a lot of companies are now beginning to make programming catering towards dual core/socket processors.  Each core operates independently of the other, meaning 2 programs can be split up over 2 cores as opposed to having 2 programs split between one core.

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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2009, 12:00:50 PM »
Mac is the only way to go ;D

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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2009, 12:01:38 PM »
You should have a super computer geek friend,
I ahve one of those, he always build my computers when I buy new ones, and charges 20 euros for it lol.
And that including chatting for hours deciding the different parts etc lol.

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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2009, 12:04:43 PM »
www.newegg.com

www.tigerdirect.com

these are your two best bets.  You probably want to get a computer with a dual core processor.  At very minimum 2 gb of ram.  I would say at bare minimum a 300gb harddrive and a 19" monitor.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113088
fantastic computer for 500 dollars.  Pm me if you are very serious about this pm me and we can talk more.

I concur completely. 

Listen to this guy.    I was going to post almost the exact same thing.
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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2009, 12:05:44 PM »
Mac is the only way to go ;D

You sir are an idiot

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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2009, 12:13:38 PM »
I recently changed over to Fios and unless I'm somewhat close to the wireless setup(whatever it's called) my computer runs slow. If I'm in the same room, it's extremely fast. This is in contrast to when I had the Linksys wireless system. I've heard you can combine the Linksys to the Fios to increase power. Anyone know anything about this?   Any other suggestions, like maybe placement of the wireless tower, etc.?

if we have our acronyms right, Fios is how your internet and cable tv get to your house.   The fiber optic cable is a replacement for the coax cable you use to have.  Your Fios provider (Verizon?) then gave you a modem or router that had WiFi.  There are numerous wifi standards, 802.11b, 802.11g, and soon 802.11n, each a little faster than the previous.  Odds are Verizon gave you a cheap 802.11b.   thats why it has a limited range and is slower the further away you are.

if you want really fast internet, plug your computer directly into the Fios modem using a CAT-5 cable (has oversized phone jacks).   or you could plug a faster wifi into the Fios modem. 

But please, please, everyone go check their wifi and make sure it's password protected.   and never never enter your cc number or bank password into a computer that is on an unencrypted (no password) wifi, such as at a coffee shop or the wifi you're steeling from your neighbor who was too dumb to put a password on it.

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« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2009, 12:15:51 PM »
Mac is the only way to go ;D

Agreed. It can run OS X and it can be configured to run Windows (XP, Vista, Windows 7).  If you want to "build your own computer" or tinker with what is under the hood of your computer then Macs are not for you.  However, if you want a powerful OS, superior display technology, and an all around seamless computing experience that lets you focus on why you are using the computer (your task) rather than focus on the computer itself then it doesn't get any better than a Mac.

The integration of the iLife applications alone makes a Mac the best choice for most people.

• iTunes for managing CDs and music (syncing with ipods)
• iPhoto for managing photos and linking with your digital camera
• iMovie for managing home movies and syncing with your camcorder
• iDVD for... oh hell...  read all about them here http://www.apple.com/ilife/  They all come with the Mac and work right out of the box.

This is the Mac under my desk and I love it!  http://www.apple.com/macpro/design.html  
It costs more than most people would want to spend though; for most people (who don't already own a big monitor) an iMac will do just fine.  ;)

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« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2009, 12:19:29 PM »
People who prefer MAC is the same people that think Peter Putnam is better the Coleman.

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« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2009, 12:55:40 PM »
if we have our acronyms right, Fios is how your internet and cable tv get to your house.   The fiber optic cable is a replacement for the coax cable you use to have.  Your Fios provider (Verizon?) then gave you a modem or router that had WiFi.  There are numerous wifi standards, 802.11b, 802.11g, and soon 802.11n, each a little faster than the previous.  Odds are Verizon gave you a cheap 802.11b.   thats why it has a limited range and is slower the further away you are.

if you want really fast internet, plug your computer directly into the Fios modem using a CAT-5 cable (has oversized phone jacks).   or you could plug a faster wifi into the Fios modem. 

But please, please, everyone go check their wifi and make sure it's password protected.   and never never enter your cc number or bank password into a computer that is on an unencrypted (no password) wifi, such as at a coffee shop or the wifi you're steeling from your neighbor who was too dumb to put a password on it.
Thank you very much. I'll check with Verizon to see if I have a choice of a better wifi.    Plugging into the modem defeats the purchase of my laptop but thanks for the info.    Thanks for your time.

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« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2009, 01:36:02 PM »
Tim if someone wants to crack your wifi, regardless of what encrypt your using, its not hard.

if we have our acronyms right, Fios is how your internet and cable tv get to your house.   The fiber optic cable is a replacement for the coax cable you use to have.  Your Fios provider (Verizon?) then gave you a modem or router that had WiFi.  There are numerous wifi standards, 802.11b, 802.11g, and soon 802.11n, each a little faster than the previous.  Odds are Verizon gave you a cheap 802.11b.   thats why it has a limited range and is slower the further away you are.

if you want really fast internet, plug your computer directly into the Fios modem using a CAT-5 cable (has oversized phone jacks).   or you could plug a faster wifi into the Fios modem. 

But please, please, everyone go check their wifi and make sure it's password protected.   and never never enter your cc number or bank password into a computer that is on an unencrypted (no password) wifi, such as at a coffee shop or the wifi you're steeling from your neighbor who was too dumb to put a password on it.

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« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2009, 01:41:31 PM »
Personally I would bide your time and wait for Windows 7 to come out. The beta version has had a lot of positive comments.

Vista is utter shite and I can hardly wait for the day when I get rid of it.

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« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2009, 01:43:50 PM »
Personally I would bide your time and wait for Windows 7 to come out. The beta version has had a lot of positive comments.

Vista is utter shite and I can hardly wait for the day when I get rid of it.

Dude honestly, screw both mac and windows, they are both garbage.  Go linux.  Linux is much safer than either osx10 or vista. 

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« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2009, 01:58:59 PM »
i went on ebay, found a store, and got a refurbished Dell optiplex.  Loaded better than my last computer, with XP, office, etc... the entire thing was 399.   I couldn't be happier.  I don't know the store offhand, but I can look it up for you if you're interested. 
pretty pathetic coming from a guy who runs 299 dollar websites  ::) build your own system its more stable and better people who complain about windows are the folks who bought from dealers i.e. dell, hp, etc..who load up the computers with 3x types of firewalls, scanners, etc...6 times of media players etc....

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« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2009, 02:02:05 PM »
Hey GetBiggers,

If anyone knows anything about computers, please give me some tips on what to get for my next desktop purchase.  Which brand is the best?  Is it better to build it yourself?  Specs?  Etc.?

I've been wanting to upgrade, but I don't know what to get.  I want something very high speed and top of the line.  Price range would probably be $3000 and below.

Thanks
it depends of your use...

for 1300 (CDN) bucks i got this:


e8400 c2d @ 3.0 Ghz easely overclocked at 3.6 with stock air cooling

asus p5ql pro

3 gig of high quality ram

ati 3850/3870 512 mb.

win xp pro

19 inches samsung synchmaster wide

dvd/cd burner



with this you can work ,watch div x dvd, edit photo, music ,sound,video webpages and play current games at 1440*900 with total fluidity and smoothness.


Find a shop that will build it for you.





 oh and DONT BUY A MAC  ,macs are for noobs ,women, homos,  and if you only need a computer for work and some soft editing, a laptop is sufficient.

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« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2009, 02:05:50 PM »
pretty pathetic coming from a guy who runs 299 dollar websites  ::) build your own system its more stable and better people who complain about windows are the folks who bought from dealers i.e. dell, hp, etc..who load up the computers with 3x types of firewalls, scanners, etc...6 times of media players etc....

well you know i doubt he's earning a living just with his amateur looking websites only retarded meatheads with no internet/computer knowledges would buy.

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« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2009, 02:10:03 PM »
Come on now dude.  We are talking about a quad core processor.  1.8ghz quad core is much faster than a non quad/dual core 3 ghz.
depends of the apps you re using... if you re only surfing the web wether you have a quad core or a pentium 1.0ghz its going to be the same crap.

it all depends of what you intend to do with your computer on a daily basis.

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« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2009, 02:14:17 PM »
depends of the apps you re using... if you re only surfing the web wether you have a quad core or a pentium 1.0ghz its going to be the same crap.

it all depends of what you intend to do with your computer on a daily basis.

Not really dude, a lot of programs are being coded with dual/quad cores in mind.  They are more efficient at running more than one thing at a time.  I mean honestly who uses the internet and nothing else?

Sounds like you have a nice computer bro.  I built mine last black friday for 500 and I got 8gb of ram, 3.0 ghz quad core...its is beautiful.

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« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2009, 02:20:43 PM »
Not really dude, a lot of programs are being coded with dual/quad cores in mind.  They are more efficient at running more than one thing at a time.  I mean honestly who uses the internet and nothing else?

Sounds like you have a nice computer bro.  I built mine last black friday for 500 and I got 8gb of ram, 3.0 ghz quad core...its is beautiful.
99,9% of people who own a computer ? doing some excel word or powerpoint or any management software doesnt require much power from the cpu nor gfx card nor a big amount of ram either.

That's why most pre assembled computers in offices just have a decent CPU and screen with all the rest of the computer being pure crap.But that's enough for pure office use.

Most people who own a computer at home only surf and do some clerical work, sometime watch a DVD or div x, but you could do that with a pentium 500mhz from 1998 ...

Fact is you only need an homogeneous computer with a complete set of powerful parts (huge cpu that is dedicaced to manage huge and complicated loads of tasks,gfx card, ram, fast harddrive) if you play video games and do video editing.

Even webeiditing and sound editing doesnt require powerful computers, only an average main CPU.

Also, put aside profesional sound or video editing softwares, and video games, most applications arent even coded to take benefit fromt he use of multiple cores and the last technolgies embeded in the newly released CPUs.


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Sounds like you have a nice computer bro.  I built mine last black friday for 500 and I got 8gb of ram, 3.0 ghz quad core...its is beautiful.


ordered it 4 months ago, i bet it's even cheaper to build the exact same computer right now. Keep in mind i ve been into computers and web programming since 1995 ...that's why i know that the most important thing before building/buying a computer is to know what it will be intended for. This way you know what is required, and what is not, thus being able to pay exactly the amount of money required for your use.

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« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2009, 02:27:04 PM »
Did you see the computer I recommended for him?  It's a dual core, but its only 1.8 ghz, which is plenty.  This guy is on the internet asking other people what to get.  If he needed a nice computer he would know it and probably know what he needed.  I think 500 dollars for a computer is a good deal, especially for the computer I linked.

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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2009, 02:34:19 PM »
I agree 500 is a good price for a decent computer.  I am looking for something I can play video games on as well, such as WOW if I wanted to.  Or, if in the future, more complex games come out, then the computer can still handle it.  I don't want to have to upgrade again very soon. 

I appreciate hte help thouhg.
you aint going to play any videogame decently if your system specs are below this:

INTEL C2D 3.0 mini (AMD athlon wether they re dual or quad cores are crap compared to intel current cpus)
ATI 3850 512 mb (NVIDIA gfx cards are more expensive and slightly less efficient right at the moment than ATI)
2 gig of ram (800 mhz mini)
7200 trs/ min SATA 2 harddrive
400 watts powersupply
20 inches max lcd wide screen.