Author Topic: AMERICANS- Still the dumbest Industrialized Nation? Perhaps. (Read 5425 times)

Eat2Grow · « **Reply #25 on:** February 13, 2009, 02:04:48 AM »

The 1st halfrican american Pres.

Sharma · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2009, 06:37:24 AM »

Another interesting and thought provoking thread from Adam here.
I have travelled extensively and my uncle owns property all over America, UK , and Asia. In all that time I have not met anyone as dumb, ignorant and uneducated as some of the people I meet in America. Honestly, for a country that brags about being so advanced I have never met such backward people mentally.

Obviously not all. On the East and West coast of the USA there are some bright and interesting people but in the middle it is almost all Neanderthal brains (with some notable exception).

Awesomo · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2009, 06:46:35 AM »

True Adonis - Smartest man in the U.S.? Perhaps

MCWAY · « **Reply #28 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:02:19 AM »

The article, posted elswhere by Beach Bum, in a far-less-lengthy-and-more-to-the-point thread, said the key here is religious belief, moreso than level of education.

And, as I said there, there may be a correlation with Catholicism. A Fox News poll I saw some months ago indicated that outside the USA, most professed Christians are Catholic, to the tune of 67%

However, in the USA, that number DROPS to 33%.

Could it be that the Protestant demoninations (and perhaps, the grade schools, high schools, colleges, unversities, hospitals, clinics) run by them play a factor as to why so many Christians DO NOT believe in evolution, regardless of their education level?

Rami · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:07:16 AM »

Quote from: Samourai Pizzacat on February 13, 2009, 02:00:10 AM

Yes!! the first time I'm accused of being a gimmick! Now I have truly reached the pinnacle of Getbig!

I have been accused of being GH15. People though he was intelligent, no?

dr.chimps · « **Reply #30 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:09:01 AM »

Quote from: Awesomo on February 13, 2009, 06:46:35 AM

True Adonis - Smartest man in the U.S.? Perhaps

Probably not. But he likes his intellectual snobbery, don't he?

/and food and beer snobbery. can't forget those

SAMSON123 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:11:18 AM »

No argument there...

Sir Bigness · « **Reply #32 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:13:25 AM »

Ahhhh the US. The country everyone loves to hate!!!

dario73 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:15:11 AM »

My goodness.

I wonder how many of you buffoons really understand Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Read it again. Now, don't skip over the part where he says that if it's never shown that the most basic, fundamental structure of life ever changed than his theory is WRONG.

The most basic structure is a cell. NEVER proven to have changed even in so called "evolved" species.

Chime in the idiots who will claim that it has been proven. In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

Dorian01 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:15:19 AM »

We were created as slave workers by the Annunaki to mine gold for them. This theory would make the best movie, so it must be right.

Top Dog · « **Reply #35 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:23:44 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on February 12, 2009, 08:13:43 PM

On Darwin’s Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution
Belief drops to 24% among frequent church attenders

by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- On the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth, a new Gallup Poll shows that only 39% of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36% don't have an opinion either way. These attitudes are strongly related to education and, to an even greater degree, religiosity.

There is a strong relationship between education and belief in Darwin's theory, as might be expected, ranging from 21% of those with high-school educations or less to 74% of those with postgraduate degrees.

Those with high-school educations or less are much more likely to have no opinion than are those who have more formal education. Still, among those with high-school educations or less who have an opinion on Darwin's theory, more say they do not believe in evolution than say they believe in it. For all other groups, and in particular those who have at least a college degree, belief is significantly higher than nonbelief.

Darwin's theory has been at the forefront of religious debate since he published On the Origin of Species 150 years ago. Even to this day, highly religious individuals claim that the theory of evolution contradicts the story of creation as outlined in the book of Genesis in the Bible.

Thus, it comes as no surprise to find that there is a strong relationship between church attendance and belief in evolution in the current data. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to say they believe in evolution.

Previous Gallup research shows that the rate of church attendance is fairly constant across educational groups, suggesting that this relationship is not owing to an underlying educational difference but instead reflects a direct influence of religious beliefs on belief in evolution.

Younger Americans, who are less likely to be religious than those who are older, are also more likely to believe in evolution. Still, just about half of those aged 18 to 34 say they believe in evolution.

Awareness of Darwin's Association With Evolution

Before respondents in the current poll were asked about their belief in evolution, they were tested to see whether they could correctly associate evolution with Darwin. The results show that 55% of Americans can correctly name evolution (or another term closely associated with evolution, such as natural selection) when asked with which theory they associate Darwin.

Again, as would be expected, correct identification of Darwin with his scientific theory is highly related to education.

Correct identification zooms from only 31% among those with no more than a high school education all the way to 86% among those with postgraduate educations.

Americans who seldom or never attend church are slightly, but not overwhelmingly, more likely to correctly identify Darwin with this theory than are those who attend more often.

Correctly identifying the theory of evolution with Darwin is related to belief in the theory, but 29% of those who correctly link the two still say they do not believe in evolution. Of those who don't know or are unsure which theory Darwin is associated with, almost two-thirds also don't have an opinion on evolution, while those who do have an opinion are split down the middle as to whether they believe it.

Implications

As Darwin is being lauded as one of the most important scientists in history on the 200th anniversary of his birth (on Feb. 12, 1809), it is perhaps dismaying to scientists who study and respect his work to see that well less than half of Americans today say they believe in the theory of evolution, and that just 55% can associate the man with his theory.

Naturally, some of this is because of educational differences. Americans who have lower levels of formal education are significantly less likely than others to be able to identity Darwin with his theory, and to have an opinion on it either way. Still, the evidence is clear that even to this day, Americans' religious beliefs are a significant predictor of their attitudes toward Darwin's theory. Those who attend church most often are the least likely to believe in evolution, and most likely to say they do not believe in it.

Survey Methods

Results are based on telephone interviews with 1,018 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Feb. 6-7, 2009, as part of Gallup Poll Daily tracking. For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

Adonis is obsessed with this issue. He gets truly upset if people don't see the monkey in him. Definately one of the bigger idiots I've seen here the last few years and the biggest bore.

CT_Muscle · « **Reply #36 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:36:35 AM »

Quote from: Awesomo on February 13, 2009, 06:46:35 AM

True Adonis - Smartest man in the U.S.? Perhaps

CTRL C + CTRL V = Adonis' intelligence

dr.chimps · « **Reply #37 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:42:46 AM »

Quote from: dario73 on February 13, 2009, 07:15:11 AM

My goodness.

I wonder how many of you buffoons really understand Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Read it again. Now, don't skip over the part where he says that if it's never shown that the most basic, fundamental structure of life ever changed than his theory is WRONG.

The most basic structure is a cell. NEVER proven to have changed even in so called "evolved" species.

Chime in the idiots who will claim that it has been proven. In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

You again. I'll assume that your slant here is as well thought out and impartial as your thoughts on the Middle East. Oh brother.

/and lose the condescension. it does nobody any favours

Steve in NJ · « **Reply #38 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:57:35 AM »

the conclusion that Americans are perhaps the dumbest, without a basis on comparative studies in other industrialized nations, reveals some inherent disgust for Americans by the thread starter.

Awesomo · « **Reply #39 on:** February 13, 2009, 07:57:59 AM »

Quote from: CT_Muscle on February 13, 2009, 07:36:35 AM

CTRL C + CTRL V = Adonis' intelligence

I'm new to the boards but I am noticing a theme here:

Adonis will post any article in which he can put down others and feed his own belief that he is indeed the smartest person here. 99% of the time it is not BB related, but it is important he post it lest we forget how smart he really is.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #40 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:05:23 AM »

Quote from: Awesomo on February 13, 2009, 07:57:59 AM

I'm new to the boards but I am noticing a theme here:

Adonis will post any article in which he can put down others and feed his own belief that he is indeed the smartest person here. 99% of the time it is not BB related, but it is important he post it lest we forget how smart he really is.

Makes one wonder what institute of higher learning the thread starter attended...

local hero · « **Reply #41 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:13:03 AM »

i think its quite intresting that this is the case,,, i knew all your bible belt backward states would think this,but it seems prerty much wide spread.
It must be very embarracing to the other percentage,.... in the uk its taken for granted even in faith schools, there forced by law to teach it..

Its beyond me why people try and take the bible as a history book, the fucker wasnt even put together untill a few centurys after the fact and they picked and chose from all the tall stories to suit them selves....

All orginised religion is just a tool to keep the people in place...and how educted people can argue over things like this is unreal

flagadajones · « **Reply #42 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:23:00 AM »

adonis is just another MSM's pupet who think he's cool and witty just copying and pasting what he reads in these very same MSM.

He got completely hooked in the obama's hype since day one yet argues he's an independant thinker...please. You're just a follower.

He can't even understand that wether the leaders are liberals or conservatives they both bow down to lobbies and foreign interests more than the interests of the nation.

Basically he pretends to understand things nobody understands anyway cause it isnt meant to be understood by the populace.

Like any of us, he understands only what politics allow him, want him, to understand.

What does he "knows" more than any of us? nothing he didnt read on the internet or heard /watched on TV...

Just another trendy follower of the "cult", as extremistic in his views as those he accuses of being extremists.

Fact is all about politics is fake, pure garbage, whatever the "side" you pick.

True anus, go live in europe for some months or years, then you ll know what you're talking about when saying that obama's is going to make theUSA more like europe. You know nothing about what you wish for.
You wouldnt even last more than one month in any european country.

MCWAY · « **Reply #43 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:40:59 AM »

Quote from: local hero on February 13, 2009, 08:13:03 AM

i think its quite intresting that this is the case,,, i knew all your bible belt backward states would think this,but it seems prerty much wide spread.
It must be very embarracing to the other percentage,.... in the uk its taken for granted even in faith schools, there forced by law to teach it..

Its beyond me why people try and take the bible as a history book, the fucker wasnt even put together untill a few centurys after the fact and they picked and chose from all the tall stories to suit them selves....

All orginised religion is just a tool to keep the people in place...and how educted people can argue over things like this is unreal

What's "unreal" is how people, who obviously need to brush on basic spelling and grammar, can wail about how "backwards" people of faith are.

The reason people take the Bible as a history book is simply because IT HAPPENS TO BE ONE. There were many historical facts that, at one point, were only known within the pages of Scripture. When archaeological evidence was later found on that item, that research confirmed that the Bible's account was right.

A prime example of that was Belshazzar (of the famous "writing on the wall" incident). Many atheists of the 18th and 19th century claimed that the Bible was incorrect about his the "King" of Babylon, when it fell to the Medes and Persians. They even cited that he didn't even exist and that Nabondius was the last king of Bablyon (prior to its fall), because he was virtually unmentioned outside the Bible.

Then in 1854, the Nabonidus Chronicles were found by Sir Henry Rawlinson. It not only confirmed that Belshazzar existed but showed that, when Nabonidus left Babylon for Tema, he handed the reigns of power over to him, making him acting king. Today, we would call that a co-regency.

It also explains why, in the book of Daniel, Belshazzar offered, to whoever could tell him what that mysterious writing on the wall meant, the position of THIRD highest ruler in the kingdom.

As for your other comment, laws of all types are designed to keep the people in place. That's why we have them, and why we throw people in jail when they break them.

Mars · « **Reply #44 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:49:37 AM »

people who dont believe in it should be executed by the masses.

local hero · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:51:52 AM »

beleive what u want to beleive,, but when u you nutters try and start to teach it as fact,,, thats when your way out of line, its along the same lines as the church bunrning people to death for being 'witches' or calling blasphomy when they argued that the world wasnt flat...

The bible has no place in in science or in whats tought in school, and it was law until modern times, the catholic church rode roughshod over europe until we finaly got a grip and fucked the pope off....... what is funny is how u like to mock the arab world for there crazy beliefs with the 21 virgins for martydom etc.... your all the fucking same, its like a sick joke

MCWAY · « **Reply #46 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:02:52 AM »

Quote from: local hero on February 13, 2009, 08:51:52 AM

beleive what u want to beleive,, but when u you nutters try and start to teach it as fact,,, thats when your way out of line, its along the same lines as the church bunrning people to death for being 'witches' or calling blasphomy when they argued that the world wasnt flat...

Since nowhere does Scripture claim that the world was flat, your feigned outrage is little more than slapstick comedy.

Quote from: local hero on February 13, 2009, 08:51:52 AM

The bible has no place in in science or in whats tought in school, and it was law until modern times, the catholic church rode roughshod over europe until we finaly got a grip and fucked the pope off....... what is funny is how u like to mock the arab world for there crazy beliefs with the 21 virgins for martydom etc.... your all the fucking same, its like a sick joke

What the Catholic Church taught, more often than not, was contrary to what was in the Bible anyway. So, again, this feigned outrage of yours is laughable. Maybe you should go back to school and learn how to compose an actual sentence or two, with some properly-spelled words, before you continue to run your mouth about how uneducated religious people are.

Lord Humungous · « **Reply #47 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:08:31 AM »

Glad True Anus is still a peter puffing queer. Anus post some pictures of your she-male beard.

Lord Humungous · « **Reply #48 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:09:33 AM »

Quote from: Lord Humungous on February 13, 2009, 09:08:31 AM

Glad True Anus is still a peter puffing queer. Anus post some pictures of your she-male beard.

Of course evolution might just be true, after all True Anus is build like an AIDS riddled spider monkey.

liberalismo · « **Reply #49 on:** February 13, 2009, 01:39:43 PM »

Quote from: dario73 on February 13, 2009, 07:15:11 AM

My goodness.

I wonder how many of you buffoons really understand Darwin's Theory of Evolution.

Read it again. Now, don't skip over the part where he says that if it's never shown that the most basic, fundamental structure of life ever changed than his theory is WRONG.

The most basic structure is a cell. NEVER proven to have changed even in so called "evolved" species.

Chime in the idiots who will claim that it has been proven. In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....

It's been proven.

Darwin never said that. But,The cell HAS been proven to have changed in the past. Cell evolution is a vast area of study in Biology and even first year Biology students learn about the evolution of the Cell.

http://www.biology-online.org/10/3_development_organelles.htm