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« on: February 14, 2009, 05:38:14 AM » |
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Yes you heard me. In the 82 Mr. Olympia Boyer Coe competed steroid free. He had taken most of 81 off from training and in 82 he started to work for nautilus and made a series of training videos during his intitial stages of training again. In the training videos it was obvious that Boyer coe was drug free. He was so down in size it was crazy. Boyer has admitted to his steroid free status at the 82 Mr. Olympia many times over the years. And the man is not lying, becuase he has also been very candid about his abuse of GH during his Master Olympia competitions. ANd he has always spoken about his large steroid usage. So the man is not a bullshitter. So check out this video I found of him competing steroid free in the 82 Mr. Olympia. Then My next post will be Boyer Coe competing in the 84 Olympia back on steroids again. You will see the crazy difference. Yes folks, there were guys that did such things before Mike Morris and the bullshit lies of Flex Wheeler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b91nAmPhb34&feature=related |
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2009, 05:43:14 AM » |
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what was his placing on 82?
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2009, 05:44:43 AM » |
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Yes you heard me. In the 82 Mr. Olympia Boyer Coe competed steroid free. He had taken most of 81 off from training and in 82 he started to work for nautilus and made a series of training videos during his intitial stages of training again. In the training videos it was obvious that Boyer coe was drug free. He was so down in size it was crazy. Boyer has admitted to his steroid free status at the 82 Mr. Olympia many times over the years. And the man is not lying, becuase he has also been very candid about his abuse of GH during his Master Olympia competitions. ANd he has always spoken about his large steroid usage. So the man is not a bullshitter. So check out this video I found of him competing steroid free in the 82 Mr. Olympia. Then My next post will be Boyer Coe competing in the 84 Olympia back on steroids again. You will see the crazy difference. Yes folks, there were guys that did such things before Mike Morris and the bullshit lies of Flex Wheeler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b91nAmPhb34&feature=relatedcool beard and posing music |
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2009, 05:45:57 AM » |
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While many may laugh at Boyer in 82, at least the man showed that he had built a real base of core muscle from the start. How many guys from the current crop could pull this off? Probably not many.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 05:47:26 AM » |
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While many may laugh at Boyer in 82, at least the man showed that he had built a real base of core muscle from the start. How many guys from the current crop could pull this off? Probably not many.
True.....he looked damn good in 82 for being "off". Real posing too.....none of this pop locking, robot dancing shit we see today. |
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BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2009, 05:47:52 AM » |
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what was his placing on 82?
He placed 11th. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2009, 05:50:30 AM » |
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so being off made him look like eric clapton?
i think he looked better off than on, he didn't look so winded on stage either!
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 05:52:54 AM » |
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He placed 11th.
ok...well I believe he was off then.... |
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BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 05:53:31 AM » |
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so being off made him look like eric clapton?
i think he looked better off than on, he didn't look so winded on stage either!
Many say that Boyers condition in 82 while off steroids was his best conditioning ever. In the sense of leanness and being dry. No water retention at all and no gyno. If you can see, his gyno in 84 is off the charts and he is holding serious water in 84 too. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 05:55:24 AM » |
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still had the hairdo!
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2009, 05:56:07 AM » |
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Many say that Boyers condition in 82 while off steroids was his best conditioning ever. In the sense of leanness and being dry. No water retention at all and no gyno. If you can see, his gyno in 84 is off the charts and he is holding serious water in 84 too.
yes, better conditioning in 82'. and how could you miss the gyno?! was there a reason he went off in 82'? |
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2009, 05:57:49 AM » |
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so being off made him look like eric clapton?
i think he looked better off than on, he didn't look so winded on stage either!
LOL I was thinking the same thing |
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2009, 06:01:14 AM » |
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yes, better conditioning in 82'.
and how could you miss the gyno?!
was there a reason he went off in 82'?
In interviews he admitted to taking most of 81 off from serious training. So by 82 he got an offer from Nautilus creator Arthur Jones to do a series of training videos for some of the new nautilus equipment he had just made. And Boyer felt that it would be a good time to see what the HIT Arthur Jones training protocol could do for his body coming out of an untrained state. And he wanted to see what it did without any chemical enhancement and if he was happy with the results he would compete later that year. Well it just happened to be the Mr. Olympia that he competed in. Probably was just a personal goal too. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2009, 06:04:26 AM » |
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You gotta give Boyer credit for sticking to his guns and getting up on stage way smaller and steroid free. Considering that he was a beast for many years prior and in Sydney for the 80 Olympia. Gotta respect him. Now if only he would have showed up without the wig. Then he would have really shocked everybody!
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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2009, 06:05:16 AM » |
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He should have rolled his trunks into his ass crack.
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2009, 06:09:44 AM » |
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Yes you heard me. In the 82 Mr. Olympia Boyer Coe competed steroid free. He had taken most of 81 off from training and in 82 he started to work for nautilus and made a series of training videos during his intitial stages of training again. In the training videos it was obvious that Boyer coe was drug free. He was so down in size it was crazy. Boyer has admitted to his steroid free status at the 82 Mr. Olympia many times over the years. And the man is not lying, becuase he has also been very candid about his abuse of GH during his Master Olympia competitions. ANd he has always spoken about his large steroid usage. So the man is not a bullshitter. So check out this video I found of him competing steroid free in the 82 Mr. Olympia. Then My next post will be Boyer Coe competing in the 84 Olympia back on steroids again. You will see the crazy difference. Yes folks, there were guys that did such things before Mike Morris and the bullshit lies of Flex Wheeler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b91nAmPhb34&feature=relatedawesome, thanks for posting! |
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V Man
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2009, 06:10:31 AM » |
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In interviews he admitted to taking most of 81 off from serious training. So by 82 he got an offer from Nautilus creator Arthur Jones to do a series of training videos for some of the new nautilus equipment he had just made. And Boyer felt that it would be a good time to see what the HIT Arthur Jones training protocol could do for his body coming out of an untrained state. And he wanted to see what it did without any chemical enhancement and if he was happy with the results he would compete later that year. Well it just happened to be the Mr. Olympia that he competed in. Probably was just a personal goal too.
Things that make you go hmmmmm.......Was he being paid to help promote Arthur Jones HIT training program? If so, I can see him telling a fib about being clean for that show and only using Arthur Jones training principles. After all, this is the same Arthur Jones that claimed Casey Viator gained 60 lbs of lean muscle in 1 month using his principles. |
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2009, 06:24:39 AM » |
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Things that make you go hmmmmm.......Was he being paid to help promote Arthur Jones HIT training program? If so, I can see him telling a fib about being clean for that show and only using Arthur Jones training principles. After all, this is the same Arthur Jones that claimed Casey Viator gained 60 lbs of lean muscle in 1 month using his principles.
While I see why one could think that, take this into consideration. Yes Boyer was being paid by Jones. But if Boyer wanted to just lie and to get Jones his props for the equipment and the HIT routine all that Boyer would have had to do was juice up like a #### and show up on stage at the 82 Olympia looking super huge and everybody would have bought into the 1 set routine. But instead Boyer shows up looking way smaller than ever? No way.... Gotta believe Boyer on this one. He was steroid free in 82. Plus it is so fucking obvious that he is. The man had a huge base of well built muscle since his teens, which is why he was still able to show some nice quality muscle even at this way lighter bodyweight. |
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2009, 06:30:48 AM » |
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epic boxing moves @ 2:17
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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2009, 06:34:38 AM » |
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epic boxing moves @ 2:17
Got to admit that shit had me laughing - great bodybuilder though, though I see the lack of lower abs was an issue then as it was when he did the masters too. |
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2009, 06:39:42 AM » |
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Gotta believe Boyer on this one. He was steroid free in 82. Plus it is so fucking obvious that he is.
There are different levels of steroid use. You know how the mind of a bodybuilder works. Let's say he really intended to compete clean. There's a big temptation to at least take 'a little bit of something' when you're a few weeks out of the O. A little bit of Winstrol and Primo for example. If I had to bet I'd bet he wasn't totally clean. He does look clean in those training videos. I wonder what kind of BW difference there is compared to what he weighed on stage. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2009, 08:29:46 AM » |
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My 2 cents ...
Boyer was very much ON although maybe smaller doses.
But nevertheless he was on hormones/steroids in 1982.
Why BEEFY says he was clean is beyond me as he was a serious competitor and he knows there's NO clean bb...it would look rediculous small and flat on stage ...
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2009, 08:51:23 AM » |
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I did an experiment with true HIT training last year here in Florida. I worked with Arthur Jones' right hand man at both Nautilus and Arthur's later company, MedX. I too was curious about what Boyer was doing during his tenure at Nautilus, so I shot him an email inquiring about his nutrition during that period. The response he sent is as follows:
Sean:
That was a long time ago, its hard for me to recall calorie counts. First off, Arthur had me stop all training for at least four months, much like he did with Casey with the Colorado Experiment.
You have to remember Casey didn't gain 60 lbs. of muscle he "Regained" 60 pounds of muscle and he still did not not look anywhere close to contest shape.
As I recall, I got down to 178 lbs. that was even lighter than I was in high school. When I started back training, for some reason he wanted me to keep my calories low, Arthur knew nothing about
nutrition. I was also off of any Anabolics. Had he let me train a bit slower where I could really concentrate on the movements and get back on Anabolics I am sure the results would have been better.
After he dis continued the training, I made my necessary adjustments and in one month I went from 178 to 198 and then later on up to 215, in really good shape.
If I had to guess on calories I probably was not eating more that 1,800 calories a day, which is not very much.
Hope this helps you.
Boyer
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Hugo Chavez
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2009, 08:53:48 AM » |
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My 2 cents ...
Boyer was very much ON although maybe smaller doses.
But nevertheless he was on hormones/steroids in 1982.
Why BEEFY says he was clean is beyond me as he was a serious competitor and he knows there's NO clean bb...it would look rediculous small and flat on stage ...
it's not unconceivable that he did that off for a year after being on for several years. |
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