Author Topic: HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION... (Read 2775 times)

Hugo Chavez · « **on:** February 20, 2009, 06:54:03 AM »

What if this were published by The Times right after the Iraq war started? Would rightwingers have no problem? I can't believe how many people on other sites are defending the original cartoon so I thought I would pose it in a way that the same excuses could be used by the artist. He could just the same say he meant congress or the pro war movement in general. How would this have gone down?

James · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2009, 07:12:20 AM »

In the same Newsapaper, they did the same thing to Condoleezza Rice over a year ago

Not a word from one Liberal then...............

tonymctones · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:11:29 AM »

the cartoon is wrong dude they guy knew what he was doing....HOWEVER

Quote from: James on February 20, 2009, 07:12:20 AM

In the same Newsapaper, they did the same thing to Condoleezza Rice over a year ago

Not a word from one Liberal then...............

ALSO you had ppl on here and ppl all over this country in the Main stream medai show bush in an unfavorable light, make fun of and wish that a shoe had that was thrown at him had hit him which was in REAL LIFE. You guys are so inconsistent its ridiculous bro come the fuck on you where ok when they did it to bush but now its wrong?

James · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:19:00 AM »

You had Liberals showing photos of Bush next to a photo of a monkey....... doing different facial expressions.

And not one liberal on here had a problem with it !

NOT ONE !!!

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:23:29 AM »

ok, you guys. First I want to see where they depicted Condi in a way to illustrate her death. I never saw anything like that and if I had I would have been against it just as I was against the film about the assassination of bush. I wouldn't have gone for that. Tony, I don't care about cartoons that mock or make fun of Obama or Bush or Clinton etc... That's not the point and you know it. I'm quite consistent and I posted the thread showing that I was against the assassination movie. I think you guys might have missed a major issue with the cartoon in the focus on race. I know people would have went apeshit over the above revised cartoon and would have said Bush was the subject.

James · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:26:38 AM »

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ok, you guys. First I want to see where they depicted Condi in a way to illustrate her death. I never saw anything like that and if I had I would have been against it just as I was against the film about the assassination of bush. I wouldn't have gone for that. Tony, I don't care about cartoons that mock or make fun of Obama or Bush or Clinton etc... That's not the point and you know it. I'm quite consistent and I posted the thread showing that I was against the assassination movie. I think you guys might have missed a major issue with the cartoon in the focus on race. I know people would have went apeshit over the above revised cartoon and would have said Bush was the subject.

Horse shit !

I know you saw the photo of Bush doing many differnt facail expressions, with a photo of a monkey next to him in each expression

I don't ever remember you showing disdain for that photo ! If you did, show me the link, if not.......you are hypocrite !

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:27:31 AM »

Quote from: James on February 20, 2009, 08:19:00 AM

You had Liberals showing photos of Bush next to a photo of a monkey....... doing different facial expressions.

And not one liberal on here had a problem with it !

NOT ONE !!!

why don't you get on the same page as the point of the thread? Depicting the shooting of political figures. That's never been ok.

On a side note, comparing Bush to a monkey isn't racist. Comparing a black man to a monkey is a long tradition for racists. 2nd, Bush looks chimpish in appearance and facial expressions so it's a natural characture of him. Think intent. The cartoonist has been around politics long enough to know what's up.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:28:52 AM »

Quote from: James on February 20, 2009, 08:26:38 AM

Horse shit !

I know you saw the photo of Bush doing many differnt facail expressions, with a photo of a monkey next to him in each expression

I don't ever remember you showing disdain for that photo ! If you did, show me the link, if not.......you are hypocrite !

what the fuck are you talking about? read what I typed again and tell me how the hell you could type this? Yes I saw those pictures of Bush. Now get on the same page please.

James · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:30:13 AM »

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why don't you get on the same page as the point of the thread? Depicting the shooting of political figures. That's never been ok.

On a side note, comparing Bush to a monkey isn't racist. Comparing a black man to a monkey is a long tradition for racists. 2nd, Bush looks chimpish in appearance and facial expressions so it's a natural characture of him. Think intent. The cartoonist has been around politics long enough to know what's up.

the point is that you did not care one bit, when anyone made fun of or mocked Bush, in fact you loved it,

and now that it is done to Obama, you come on here crying about it.

hypocrite !

tonymctones · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:33:11 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on February 20, 2009, 08:27:31 AM

why don't you get on the same page as the point of the thread? Depicting the shooting of political figures. That's never been ok.

On a side note, comparing Bush to a monkey isn't racist. Comparing a black man to a monkey is a long tradition for racists. 2nd, Bush looks chimpish in appearance and facial expressions so it's a natural characture of him. Think intent. The cartoonist has been around politics long enough to know what's up.

hahahaha so it was ok with bush b/c he kinda looks like a monkey so does barry so its ok there too i guess? barry looks very chimpish in appearnce to me

dude take your politically correct shit and shove it right back up your ass

tonymctones · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:34:09 AM »

james has a very valid point you are upset over fuking cartoon but when a person throws a shoe in REAL FUKING LIFE at bush its funny?

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:34:29 AM »

Quote from: James on February 20, 2009, 08:30:13 AM

the point is that you did not care one bit, when anyone made fun of or mocked Bush, in fact you loved it,

and now that it is done to Obama, you come on here crying about it.

hypocrite !

you must be illiterate

No I don't care about cartoons that mocked Bush or any other politician for that matter. Why the fuck would I? You are either stupid as hell or intentionally missing the point to troll.

James · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:37:29 AM »

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you must be illiterate Roll Eyes No I don't care about cartoons that mocked Bush or any other politician for that matter. Why the fuck would I? You are either stupid as hell or intentionally missing the point to troll.

pure horse shit again.

You are a hypocrite, and with each post you make on here, you prove it even more !

so keep posting !

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:38:21 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 20, 2009, 08:34:09 AM

james has a very valid point you are upset over fuking cartoon but when a person throws a shoe in REAL FUKING LIFE at bush its funny?

nice red herring asshole.

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:38:55 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on February 20, 2009, 08:27:31 AM

why don't you get on the same page as the point of the thread? Depicting the shooting of political figures. That's never been ok.

On a side note, comparing Bush to a monkey isn't racist. Comparing a black man to a monkey is a long tradition for racists. 2nd, Bush looks chimpish in appearance and facial expressions so it's a natural characture of him. Think intent. The cartoonist has been around politics long enough to know what's up.

I thought the monkey was the people who wrote the bill? Not Obama?

James · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:40:14 AM »

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nice red herring asshole.

watch out tony, next he will call you a "Nazi" !!!!!

LMAO !

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:40:48 AM »

Quote from: James on February 20, 2009, 08:40:14 AM

watch it tony, next he will call you a "Nazi" !!!!!

LMAO !

Why don't you post under your original account?

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:41:54 AM »

Quote from: James on February 20, 2009, 08:37:29 AM

pure horse shit again.

You are a hypocrite, and with each post you make on here, you prove it even more !

so keep posting !

right, I see your game. You're just going to ignore that the above cartoon would clearly be a threat to the president and focus on the race angle, which this thread was not even about, in order to illustrate me as a hypocrite for not caring that Bush was depicted as an ape. You're just going to ignore everything I say and call me a hypocrite. Troll.

James · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:42:07 AM »

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Why don't you post under your original account?

Why don't you tell us about the man you voted for " Obama", and how the "Change" is going so far ?

tonymctones · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:42:17 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on February 20, 2009, 08:38:21 AM

nice red herring asshole.

I said i was against the cartoon and that the guy knew exactly what he was doing, the difference between me and you is im consistent unlike you and your admittedly biased moderating style, you feel it was ok b/c bush looked like a chimp but not ok with barry even though he too resembles a chimp

I shouldnt expect anything less from you

tonymctones · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:43:15 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 20, 2009, 08:42:17 AM

I said i was against the cartoon and that the guy knew exactly what he was doing, the difference between me and you is im consistent unlike you and your admittedly biased moderating style, you feel it was ok b/c bush looked like a chimp but not ok with barry even though he too resembles a chimp I shouldnt expect anything less from you

i mean the original cartoon huggy bear

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:44:56 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 20, 2009, 08:42:17 AM

I said i was against the cartoon and that the guy knew exactly what he was doing, the difference between me and you is im consistent unlike you and your admittedly biased moderating style, you feel it was ok b/c bush looked like a chimp but not ok with barry even though he too resembles a chimp I shouldnt expect anything less from you

It's not even what this thread is about! I've said several times this is about threatening the president! I asked you you guys to get on the same page and you both still focus on the race angle which has been covered. When you do that, you're using a red herring. That stupid shoe comment was also a red herring.

James · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:45:13 AM »

Hugo Chavez, stop deleting my post asshole !

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:47:04 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on February 20, 2009, 08:42:17 AM

I said i was against the cartoon and that the guy knew exactly what he was doing, the difference between me and you is im consistent unlike you and your admittedly biased moderating style, you feel it was ok b/c bush looked like a chimp but not ok with barry even though he too resembles a chimp I shouldnt expect anything less from you

also, as I said before and you ignored. comparing bush to a chimp has zero potential for racist overtones of any kind. Not so with Obama since there is a long tradition by racists to use the image. Now, for fuck sake, I didn't want to talk about the race angle as I made clear multiple times.

SAMSON123 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2009, 08:48:23 AM »

Quote from: James on February 20, 2009, 08:30:13 AM

the point is that you did not care one bit, when anyone made fun of or mocked Bush, in fact you loved it,

and now that it is done to Obama, you come on here crying about it.

hypocrite !

Hello Laura Bush...sorry you feel offended...