Blame Dorian for the state of modern BBing......

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yates making Flea look like Sergio.

wow that must means it's true 

so easy to correct the trolls

[wild willie]

Lee Labrada could hang with the big boys...... PERIOD....... MASS WITH CLASS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pumpster]

wow that must means it's true 

TERRIBLE example as usual from our schmoe-Yates so smooth there you can skate on him, Labrada shredded lol

[LurkyLurker]

hahaha I expected you to be smarter than the type to give in to the Vic Richards 270 lbs @ 5'9" hype

You're right, Bobs, it's impossible to imagine that this guy could have possibly weighed anywhere near 270. Where would you put him? 210 maybe? So long as he's not within 50 pounds of Nasser we're safe, right?

[bigbobs]

You're right, Bobs, it's impossible to imagine that this guy could have possibly weighed anywhere near 270. Where would you put him? 210 maybe? So long as he's not within 50 pounds of Nasser we're safe, right?

First of all I hope you realize that picture above is photoshopped

If he's 5'9" he looks about 230ish in contest shape - about Wheeler's size.  Vic was much more narrow than Nasser, and a few inches shorter too, so yes he would be much lighter.  Even though in the pics below Vic has the scaling advantage (his head is much bigger than Nasser's for example), his torso still looks smaller.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You're right, Bobs, it's impossible to imagine that this guy could have possibly weighed anywhere near 270. Where would you put him? 210 maybe? So long as he's not within 50 pounds of Nasser we're safe, right?

That pic is fake FYI , this one isn't

[bigbobs]

That pic is fake FYI , this one isn't

Big guy no doubt, but 270 lbs @ 5'9" in contest shape - not a chance!  That claim itself is an insult to the pros who actually competed at that type of bodyweight.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Big guy no doubt, but 270 lbs @ 5'9" in contest shape - not a chance!  That claim itself is an insult to the pros who actually competed at that type of bodyweight.

He's 275 in this pic there are pics of him at over 300lbs the guy was huge beyond belief well before Nasser was big

[tbombz]

Everyone was trying to play Dorian's game, but they didn't have the genetics.  You have to do what works for you, not what somebody else is doing. 

i think there were dozens of competitors in the IFBB with equal or better genetics than dorian yates.

[bigbobs]

He's 275 in this pic there are pics of him at over 300lbs the guy was huge beyond belief well before Nasser was big

If he's 275 lbs in that pic, looking considerably smaller (and shorter) than Nasser, then Nasser must be 340 lbs in this pic

[NarcissisticDeity]

If he's 275 lbs in that pic, looking considerably smaller (and shorter) than Nasser, then Nasser must be 340 lbs in this pic

Believe what you like 

[bigbobs]

Believe what you like 

Seems like you're not as committed to arguing about Vic as you are with Yates?

(thats a good thing)

[NarcissisticDeity]

Seems like you're not as committed to arguing about Vic as you are with Yates?

(thats a good thing)

Well how can you argue? you claim he's not everyone says he was , no argument just denial on your behalf 

[THEBOSS]

   

thanks for playing tranny chaser

RON managed to get a giant GUT and a giant ASS !

[bigbobs]

Well how can you argue? you claim he's not everyone says he was , no argument just denial on your behalf 

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[bigbobs]

So posting a picture of Vic looking the size of an average pro along with a wink emoticon somehow suggests that I was incorrect in questioning that "everyone" agreed Vic was 275 in contest shape? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

So posting a picture of Vic looking the size of an average pro along with a wink emoticon somehow suggests that I was incorrect in questioning that "everyone" agreed Vic was 275 in contest shape? 

Again you're the only one questioning is Vic was 275 because it doesn't fit into your fantasy that Nasser was the first real mass monster  Vic was massive a long time before Nasser that's a fact , those pics of him are at 275 pounds confirmed by Jeff Everson who measured his quads at 35" just because you don't think he weighs that doesn't mean he didn't and what is contest shape? he never really competed but that doesn't matter because there are pics of him looking massive and in good shape next to pros just reference the pic of him next to Ray and Newman among others

[bigbobs]

Again you're the only one questioning is Vic was 275 because it doesn't fit into your fantasy that Nasser was the first real mass monster  Vic was massive a long time before Nasser that's a fact , those pics of him are at 275 pounds confirmed by Jeff Everson who measured his quads at 35" just because you don't think he weighs that doesn't mean he didn't and what is contest shape? he never really competed but that doesn't matter because there are pics of him looking massive and in good shape next to pros just reference the pic of him next to Ray and Newman among others

Nasser was about 50 lbs bigger than Vic.  No comparison.

[LurkyLurker]

So posting a picture of Vic looking the size of an average pro along with a wink emoticon somehow suggests that I was incorrect in questioning that "everyone" agreed Vic was 275 in contest shape? 

Man, you changed your story in two places within two pages of this thread. Here's your original quote:

"hahaha I expected you to be smarter than the type to give in to the Vic Richards 270 lbs @ 5'9" hype"

You originally didn't believe he could reach 270 (not 275) and there was nothing about contest shape. So a 5'8" Kai can walk around at 290 with abs, Phil Heath can break 275 in the offseason at 5'9" but Vic couldn't have possibly been 270 at 5'10"? I'm not getting the point of this... I guess you'll post anything to delegitimize every bodybuilder in existence other than Nasser. Bizarre.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Nasser was about 50 lbs bigger than Vic.  No comparison.

Your retort is a blanket statement  we'll just take your word for it? lol Vic was massive when Nasser was trying to turn pro , he was over 300lbs well before Nasser , was he a better bodybuilder than Nasser? NO. but that doesn't matter he was insanely massive no matter what you say.

[bigbobs]

Man, you changed your story in two places within two pages of this thread. Here's your original quote:

"hahaha I expected you to be smarter than the type to give in to the Vic Richards 270 lbs @ 5'9" hype"

You originally didn't believe he could reach 270 (not 275) and there was nothing about contest shape. So a 5'8" Kai can walk around at 290 with abs, Phil Heath can break 275 in the offseason at 5'9" but Vic couldn't have possibly been 270 at 5'10"? I'm not getting the point of this... I guess you'll post anything to delegitimize every bodybuilder in existence other than Nasser. Bizarre.

I may not have explicitly said "contest shape" when I doubted him being 5'9" and 270, but that's what I meant - because 270 lbs offseason is hardly what's considered a "mass monster" or comparable to Nasser (who was sometimes 330 with abs in the offseason).  Yes, I believe offseason Vic can  weigh 270, but at 3% bodyfat or the condition at which Nasser weighed 280 - not a chance

[calfzilla]

I don't think blame is the best word because it implies a negative connotation.  I agree he was the first to take it to the next level, but onstage when it counted he still looked good.  Not really his fault that all the jackasses that followed overdo everything and look like crap in the gym, on the street and on the stage. 

[bigbobs]

Your retort is a blanket statement  we'll just take your word for it? lol Vic was massive when Nasser was trying to turn pro , he was over 300lbs well before Nasser , was he a better bodybuilder than Nasser? NO. but that doesn't matter he was insanely massive no matter what you say.

Nasser was well over 300 lbs (with abs)

[bigbobs]

BTW this here is 5'11" and 285 lbs, no way Vic who is soo much smaller in this pic is 5'9" 275 lbs lmao