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Re: THE TRUE ADONIS SOCIALIST TAX PLAN
« Reply #125 on: April 17, 2009, 09:44:51 AM »
You're wrong.  The military is very inefficient; we may be efficient in destroying the enemy, but to maintain an army, very inefficient.  I would agree that the DOT (specifically roads, not mass transit), Fire Departments and police departments are good things for the collective, because they apply to everyone equally!  If someone commits a crime the police is there, fire same thing.  You will get no argument from me that these aren't good for the collective.  If it is not applied to all then it shouldn't be paid for by the government, my opinion.  DOD same thing. 
 
The other thing about these; they are inherently inefficient because they do not produce anything.  They only consume.  Much like a hub operation at UPS or Fedex.  The basic goal of the hub is to limit cost, avoid delays and don't break anything.  Fire departments, police departments and DOD do employ people that is true, but without the economic engine of capitalism these things would not be able to function.

Democratic Socialism promotes Capitalism.

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Re: THE TRUE ADONIS SOCIALIST TAX PLAN
« Reply #126 on: April 17, 2009, 10:24:42 AM »
Democratic Socialism promotes Capitalism.

We live in an Oligarchy run by pols and their wall street puppet masters.

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Re: THE TRUE ADONIS SOCIALIST TAX PLAN
« Reply #127 on: April 17, 2009, 11:01:07 AM »
You're wrong.  The military is very inefficient; we may be efficient in destroying the enemy, but to maintain an army, very inefficient.  I would agree that the DOT (specifically roads, not mass transit), Fire Departments and police departments are good things for the collective, because they apply to everyone equally!  If someone commits a crime the police is there, fire same thing.  You will get no argument from me that these aren't good for the collective.  If it is not applied to all then it shouldn't be paid for by the government, my opinion.  DOD same thing. 
 
The other thing about these; they are inherently inefficient because they do not produce anything.  They only consume.  Much like a hub operation at UPS or Fedex.  The basic goal of the hub is to limit cost, avoid delays and don't break anything.  Fire departments, police departments and DOD do employ people that is true, but without the economic engine of capitalism these things would not be able to function.


actually the government is moving away from Mil spec on most equipment and is  using outside contractors for most of the work that was considered inefficient.

The problems lay in how they qualify contractors.

But outsourcing itself isn't the problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Standard
Origins

Defense standards evolved from the need to ensure proper performance and maintainability of military equipment. For example, due to differences in dimensional tolerances, in World War II American screws and bolts did not fit British equipment properly and were not fully interchangeable.[1] Defense standards provide many benefits, such as minimizing the number of types of ammunition, ensuring compatibility of tools, and ensuring quality during production of military equipment. This results, for example, in ammunition cases that can be opened without tools. The proliferation of standards had drawbacks, however. It was argued that the large number of standards, nearly 30,000 by 1990, imposed unnecessary restrictions, increased cost to contractors, and hence the DOD, and impeded the incorporation of the latest technology. Responding to increasing criticism, Secretary of Defense William Perry issued a memorandum in 1994 that prohibited the use of most defense standards without a waiver.[2] This has become known as the "Perry memo". Many defense standards were canceled. In their place, the DOD encouraged the use of industry standards, such as ISO 9000 series for quality assurance. (See COTS.) Weapon systems were required to use "performance specifications" that described the desired features of the weapon, as opposed to requiring a large number of defense standards. In 2005 DOD issued a new memorandum[3] which eliminated the requirement to obtain a waiver in order to use defense standards. The 2005 memo did not reinstate any canceled defense standards.

According to a 2003 issue of Gateway, published by the Human Systems Information Analysis Center [4], the number of defense standards and specifications have been reduced from 45,500 to 28,300. However, other sources noted that the number of standards just before the Perry memorandum was issued was less than 30,000, and that thousands have been canceled since then. This may be due to differences in what is counted as a "military standard".
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Re: THE TRUE ADONIS SOCIALIST TAX PLAN
« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2009, 08:49:34 AM »
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« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2009, 09:07:38 AM »
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You might want to argue on your own rather than post things all the time.