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Wiggs

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Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« on: March 07, 2009, 09:45:25 PM »
Back in the 90's I remember hearing about people needing to get really heavy to put on muscle...(I disagree)
Lee Priest, Dennis James, Nasser, and Yates really over did it.

Ronnie kind of did it but he competed at 290+ so going to 310 is really not going up that much.

I'm not saying they have to train naturally but a person like Kai that went up to 302 in the offseason and competed in the 250s is putting on too much weight.  It makes it that much harder to diet it off...

This whole ideal created the permabulker

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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 09:50:33 PM »
agreed.  personally i think going that high in weight is one of the many contributing factors to getting huge waist lines
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 09:52:28 PM »
It's so they look bigger in clothes as most of them are so SHORT. :-\
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 09:57:23 PM »
why stay shredded year round?
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 09:59:59 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on March 07, 2009, 09:57:23 PM
why stay shredded year round?

You don't have to.  Going 40+ lbs over your contest weight is a little much ya think?
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 10:07:02 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 09:59:59 PM
You don't have to.  Going 40+ lbs over your contest weight is a little much ya think?
depends. as long as the dude still comes in shredded, then it doesnt matter. i think getting fatter is better anyway, can lift more...eating more... you grow faster..
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 10:09:11 PM »
Drugs work Best when eating a LOT.Hope this helps.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 10:10:49 PM »
Quote from: Switznegger on March 07, 2009, 10:09:11 PM
Drugs work Best when eating a LOT.Hope this helps.
yup. i agree.   

you think its best to eat huge amounts of "clean food" and keep fats to minimal..or do ya think ya gotta eat some junk and fat , no matter how much clean stuff your eating?
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 10:15:07 PM »
Some guys do overdo it no doubt ala trey brewer . . . but I don't think any of the guys you mentioned got "too heavy" in the offseason. Except maybe Priest in that 1 muscletech shoot where he was plain fat. Boatloads of test and other anabolics plus GH will make you look extrememly soft when eating tons of food.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 10:17:43 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on March 07, 2009, 10:10:49 PM
yup. i agree.  

you think its best to eat huge amounts of "clean food" and keep fats to minimal..or do ya think ya gotta eat some junk and fat , no matter how much clean stuff your eating?
More clean food than Fat food.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 10:20:08 PM »
but much of that weight is water.  Really only gaining maybe 20 pounds.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 10:20:57 PM »
Yes but when you do this every year and come in the same weight every year, what is the point?
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 10:27:29 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 10:20:57 PM
Yes but when you do this every year and come in the same weight every year, what is the point?
charles glass made a greta point one time..... a guy asked him why he kept dieting down to the same bodyweight for a contest, when he kept get bigger in the offseason. charles told the guy this happens alot to guys because they keep the same contest diet from year to year, not increasing protein or calories to compensate for an increase in muscloe mass.  makes sense to me.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2009, 10:50:08 PM »
Quote from: tbombz on March 07, 2009, 10:07:02 PM
depends. as long as the dude still comes in shredded, then it doesnt matter. i think getting fatter is better anyway, can lift more...eating more... you grow faster..

Ditto that, as long as it is within the competitors capabilities to come in peeled then eat away IMO.  In order to reach the massive amount of calories needed to keep growing at a high bodyweight you will have to eat some junk foods - which will inevitably cause an increase in bf levels.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2009, 11:26:18 PM »
Cause nobody can stay on a clean diet year round, they are people too, they crave foods and they like to eat good food, simple as that.

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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 12:32:54 AM »



i guess kai's idea worked.

he just won.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 12:59:01 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 09:59:59 PM
You don't have to.  Going 40+ lbs over your contest weight is a little much ya think?

Kai was closer to 270lbs at the Arnold, not 255 as LT suggested.  Part of the 40+ lbs over contest weight is water... 40lbs. over 14-16wks. of dieting isn't too much..  But between now and the Olympia, it would be wise to stay between 15-20lbs.. 
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2009, 01:14:36 AM »
Awesome pic Ice.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2009, 05:19:48 AM »
Also have to take into account is depleted glycogen levels from dieting and full glycogen in the offseason. for such a big guy like 250lbs + that difference alone can be 20lbs
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2009, 07:53:31 AM »
Is that Yates pic supposed to show him being fat? That's lean as hell.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2009, 08:05:45 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 09:45:25 PM
Back in the 90's I remember hearing about people needing to get really heavy to put on muscle...(I disagree)
Lee Priest, Dennis James, Nasser, and Yates really over did it.

Ronnie kind of did it but he competed at 290+ so going to 310 is really not going up that much.

I'm not saying they have to train naturally but a person like Kai that went up to 302 in the offseason and competed in the 250s is putting on too much weight.  It makes it that much harder to diet it off...

This whole ideal created the permabulker

Discuss
you're not exactly shredded yourself there Fat Albert.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2009, 08:31:31 AM »
Quote from: MisterGX on March 08, 2009, 12:59:01 AM
Kai was closer to 270lbs at the Arnold, not 255 as LT suggested.  Part of the 40+ lbs over contest weight is water... 40lbs. over 14-16wks. of dieting isn't too much..  But between now and the Olympia, it would be wise to stay between 15-20lbs.. 

Kai weighed 257 for the Arnold. Kai even said so himself. Read the other reports. LT is more accurate with judging the actual weight of guys than many speculators. He wasn't 270.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2009, 08:36:46 AM »
Quote from: QuakerOats on March 08, 2009, 08:05:45 AM
you're not exactly shredded yourself there Fat Albert.


haha, I believe that abs are a myth.
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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2009, 08:42:17 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 09:45:25 PM
This whole ideal created the permabulker

No.
Fantasy, deceiving mirrors, and lying friends are what brought on the Permabulkers!

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Re: Why do pros feel the need to be so overweight in the offseason?
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2009, 08:46:19 AM »
Bulking is an excuse to eat whatever you want.
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