Author Topic: Obama Received a $101,332 Bonus from AIG (Read 3039 times)

Option D · « **Reply #25 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:20:20 AM »

Quote from: Bindare_Dundat on March 18, 2009, 08:19:03 AM

I think it's pretty obvious.

Alie to call it a bonus? You guys are too kind.

Yeah B. That was some wack shit there. When you do shit like that, try and post misleading ass headlines ,it fucks with your credibility and the ability for others to take yo serious. Just say "Obama received a campaign contribution from AIG blah blah". And dude it was wrong, no need to defend shit you know was wrong. Just say "yeah my bad, he didnt get a bonus, they contributed to his campaign".

Decker · « **Reply #26 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:32:44 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 18, 2009, 09:19:50 AM

You guys are amazing.

Thank you. Thank you very much. It's gratifying to have one's work on these boards acknowledged.

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Obama/Geithner has morphed 100% into Bush/Paulson only after a few weeks and you still come on here acting like Obama is for change.

What a joke.

Dodd and Obama got TOP money from Fanny/Freddy and AIG as protection money.

Its working like a charm.

Do you call all campaign donations "protection money"?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #27 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:35:46 AM »

Quote from: Decker on March 18, 2009, 09:32:44 AM

Thank you. Thank you very much. It's gratifying to have one's work on these boards acknowledged.
Do you call all campaign donations "protection money"?

Most of it. Why else do you think they pay up?

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To either be left alone or to get something they want.

The govt acts like the mafia in every way.

Decker · « **Reply #28 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:39:20 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 18, 2009, 09:35:46 AM

Most of it. Why else do you think they pay up??

To either be left alone or to get something they want.

The govt acts like the mafia in every way.

I agree with you on this part. It's not the government that is the Mafia. Gov. is a tool for the most part. It's the corrupt private entities who twist government to their ends.

So it's really the mafia acting like the mafia when it uses government for its own purposes.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #29 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:40:17 AM »

Quote from: Decker on March 18, 2009, 09:39:20 AM

I agree with you on this part. It's not the government that is the Mafia. Gov. is a tool for the most part. It's the corrupt private entities who twist government to their ends.

So it's really the mafia acting like the mafia when it uses government for its own purposes.

Both are partners in crime.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #30 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:48:50 AM »

Still waiting for evidence it is a BONUS.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #31 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:52:01 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on March 18, 2009, 09:48:50 AM

Still waiting for evidence it is a BONUS.

Whether it be named a bonus, a bribe, a schmere, a contribution, etc, the effect is all the same, Obama continues to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars to AIG.

165 million is nothing in the scheme of all of this. The real scandal is the the fact that the govt gives this money without strict rules, oversight, and accounting as to where it is going.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #32 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:57:18 AM »

Is that a fair description, calling it a bonus? This info was out months ago. Corporations give to candidates all the time, ALL THE TIME. I'd like to see all that ended but it's not Obama's fault for playing the game as it's written. They all take contributions fully knowing they may end up making decisions where there is a conflict of interest because they took cash.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #33 on:** March 18, 2009, 09:58:07 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 18, 2009, 09:52:01 AM

Whether it be named a bonus, a bribe, a schmere, a contribution, etc, the effect is all the same, Obama continues to funnel hundreds of billions of dollars to AIG.

165 million is nothing in the scheme of all of this. The real scandal is the the fact that the govt gives this money without strict rules, oversight, and accounting as to where it is going.

Are you for ending all corp contributions?

tonymctones · « **Reply #34 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:01:02 AM »

LOL wow i love how all the lefties on the board come out and cry about the title being a lie and misleading which it is and i agree, however when 240 or lurker or whoever else starts a ignorant ass thread with a bold faced lie or misleading title none of you guys are on their bitching about it, why is that?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #35 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:02:34 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on March 18, 2009, 09:58:07 AM

Are you for ending all corp contributions?

Yes. I would only let individuals give $$$ with full disclosure. Companies give money without the shareholders having the ability to vote down the money.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #36 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:02:50 AM »

Quote from: tonymctones on March 18, 2009, 10:01:02 AM

LOL wow i love how all the lefties on the board come out and cry about the title being a lie and misleading which it is and i agree, however when 240 or lurker or whoever else starts a ignorant ass thread with a bold faced lie or misleading title none of you guys are on their bitching about it, why is that?

That's not true... I do also think there's a difference between posting editorial pieces and lying about post content.

That's just my opinion though.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #37 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:08:51 AM »

Still no evidence that it is a BONUS I see.

tonymctones · « **Reply #38 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:11:19 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 18, 2009, 10:02:50 AM

That's not true... I do also think there's a difference between posting editorial pieces and lying about post content.

That's just my opinion though.

and you dont think 240 ever does this? dude does this multiple times a day...whos thread was it that had the title "wasilla's welfare just got 2 more"? then had an article of how palins daughter and fiance broke up? hahahahahahah pot meet kettle bro, holmes ive lost respect for you bro, defending obammers chair of economic advisors with her comment, then this shit man you used to actually think shit through instead of knee jerking...

By the way did you hear the pres this morning he said and I quote "i have all the confidence in my economic team" i guess that means that he agrees with "the fundamentals of the economy are sound" seeing as his chair of economic advisors said so...im sure youll find a way to squirm out of that though.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #39 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:18:12 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 18, 2009, 10:02:34 AM

Yes. I would only let individuals give $$$ with full disclosure. Companies give money without the shareholders having the ability to vote down the money.

I would back that idea, but that's not remotely close to what we have now. Therefore this should be a criticism of the system not Obama.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #40 on:** March 18, 2009, 10:26:34 AM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on March 18, 2009, 10:18:12 AM

I would back that idea, but that's not remotely close to what we have now. Therefore this should be a criticism of the system not Obama.

I can condemn both.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 18, 2009, 11:43:16 AM »

Geitner, Bush and Obama all share blame. There never should have been a bailout. If the gov choose to give $, there should have been strick rules that the money go to lending only. The gov has the power to do this. Obama's actions in this crisis have been horrible. Despite what he says, there has been excessive spending with little focus and accountability. His presidency has been much worse, so far, than I expected.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #42 on:** March 18, 2009, 11:44:00 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 18, 2009, 10:26:34 AM

I can condemn both.

Of course you can. But you can't justify and explain both in this thread in regards to the BONUS claim.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves in our whining now.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2009, 11:52:52 AM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on March 18, 2009, 11:44:00 AM

Of course you can. But you can't justify and explain both in this thread in regards to the BONUS claim.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves in our whining now.

Why not?

Obama took the most from Fanny /Freddy, 2nd most from AIG, and you think they got nothing in return?

Obama is a shill for the wall street banks no different than Bush. I condemned Bush for his actions, but you will not say a damn thing about the looting Obama/Geithner are doing wirth AIG. That is the difference between us, you are a party line liberal who will defend anything Obama does. I condemned Bush for what he did, you refuse to do the same with Obama even when the clear evidence shows he is a shill for the wall street banks and lying through his teeth about what is going on at AIG.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #44 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:20:24 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 18, 2009, 10:26:34 AM

I can condemn both.

You mean you can condemn all which is not remotely what this thread is doing. I'm just always looking for the truest angle and getting up in Obama's shit over what every last one of them does, just doesn't sit right.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #45 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:24:34 PM »

Quote from: Hugo Chavez on March 18, 2009, 12:20:24 PM

You mean you can condemn all which is not remotely what this thread is doing. I'm just always looking for the truest angle and getting up in Obama's shit over what every last one of them does, just doesn't sit right.

He appointed Geithner correct? He is the president correct?

The way Bush correctly got crap for his nonsense is no different than the obligation to hold Obama's feet tot he fire when he does the same thing.

Obama is simply Bush's third term when it comes to bailouts, spending, rushing through bills, scaring people, secrecy, etc..

George Whorewell · « **Reply #46 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:27:23 PM »

Yes, this is a total fallacy. It doesn't matter that Obama, Dodd and Frank got a shitload of money from AIG Fannie and Freddie. Its Bush's fault, anyway so who cares. Rumor has it Barney Frank had the runs this morning. GWB must have put some hyper mutated anthrax in his oatmeal. Nothing any democrat has ever done is wrong. Until you recognize that your either a racist or your "misinformed".

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #47 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:32:08 PM »

I just cant believe how quick Obama morphed into GWB on the bailouts and spending. Its unreal.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #48 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:36:16 PM »

Are you calling your stimilus check a bonus?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #49 on:** March 18, 2009, 12:37:28 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on March 18, 2009, 10:11:19 AM

and you dont think 240 ever does this? dude does this multiple times a day...whos thread was it that had the title "wasilla's welfare just got 2 more"? then had an article of how palins daughter and fiance broke up? hahahahahahah pot meet kettle bro, holmes ive lost respect for you bro, defending obammers chair of economic advisors with her comment, then this shit man you used to actually think shit through instead of knee jerking...

By the way did you hear the pres this morning he said and I quote "i have all the confidence in my economic team" i guess that means that he agrees with "the fundamentals of the economy are sound" seeing as his chair of economic advisors said so...im sure youll find a way to squirm out of that though.

Nope... I still think "sound" and "strong" are different... but hey... We're not going to agree on it so that's fine.

You must think I'm some kind of Team Obama shill... trust me... I'm not. I do have to wait and see if some things improve though with his plans... I can not condemn things he didn't do (Like give that money to AIG... because that wasn't just him)

Since you don't like what he's done... What would you have done?

Why is it that the economists are saying his plan is right, but you don't believe them?