.

[clued-up]

we might be better off if he posted pics of the college hot sluts that the claims to be knocking down. That to me is the more interesting discussion.

I agree.. that would de-lame this thread.

[clued-up]

at first getbig was cool when i started reading it a few years ago.  the people on here actually seemed to lift.  but then the board has somehow turned into mostly critics of bbing instead of actual bb's. 

everyone on getbig is "desparate" to nail someone on their pics, or notice "Brutal" books in the background....which is all fun and good at times, but basically, thats all it is anymore.  there are no real bb's hardly left on the site.  just people who are too scared to post pics b/c they know it will be owning time when they do.  what fun is a bbing board where people wont post pics? 

i think sevastes is not a great bb for being on roids, but he at least post pics, so does adonis, and some other brave souls.   the rest of getbig is made up of the fat and skinny people who dont even bother lifting, but think they are experts on training, nutrition, drugs, etc.  oh, and experts on telling others it is impossible they achieved anything naturally b/c they know that it cant be done.

how many of these experts post on here for thousands and thousands of posts and claim to KNOW all these things, but yet wont post a single pic.  perhaps these doctors should take their own medicine and prove that what they say works by posting pics before telling others what can and cant be done.  those of us who have posted pics have already DONE It, and given proof that it can be done. 

let it go.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Oh brother 20lbs in two weeks?  You think we are all dumbfucks don't you?  Where is your friend going to get 20lbs of "water weight" loss in two weeks?  You are retarded simplyHuge.  20lbs in two weeks?  Even if it is water no one drops 20lbs of water in two weeks naturally unless they use lasix.  It's impossible.     Most guys don't even lose that much water weight when they come off a hardcore test and dbol cycle.  LMAO!  That's what I'm saying your statistics don't back up your claims.

[WillGrant]

if you have any guts what so ever post a real picture of you or let gh15 know your real lname ,,,you are a drug dealer ,,one that i want down bad,,,i will give anything to get thie fella name and information abotu him fellas ,,and that means lots of hormones free of charge,,i do kno will grant is on us grounds and will grant be sure abotu one thing ,,when i get to know who you are yor 100 fat kilograms will not be able to do bodybuilding any more,,,and trust me you made the mistake and gave info about yourself that gh15 can get and will get,,the connections on the other boards will be made,,and then yo gonna get fucked with authorities,,this will be in the news papers and i will make sure every one knows it was you just because yore thr type of fella id shoot in the head from 1 meter with no remors

You first dick head lol..

God you are getting more pathetic with every post lol..

hahaha US grounds am I  Im a drug dealer am I , you just admitted being a drug dealer your self cokface..

VERY WRONG!

the brother the 6'2 brother is HTE ABSOLUT PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY GH15 IS SO RICH AND LIVING IN A CASTLE IN GERMANY AND ALREADY OWN BUNCH OF YOUR SHITTY SUBURBS BACK IN USA FOR DIMES,,THAT FELLA IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT GOT ME TO HAVE SO MUCH MONEY THAT I DONT KNOW HOW TO WASTE IT ,,



gh15 is positive this fellas both of them get gear via usps ,,infact we can play a little game since gh15 know all the dealers in wv and virgina since they all my servants,,actually we cant play this little game because they order from wirless or under diff names liek any normal human being ,,thats the beauty of the internet eh fellas?

what i could do is cut supplyu to the whole district they live in but then we lose too much money for what? to prove 1 kid that stil thikn they are natural on getbig? ...in the big brother language  ..."lol"

[WillGrant]

read better my broken english im sure yo can ,,,second post was for the dealer ,,his real picutre,,i want will grant the guy behind this name i want him  down not only down but down and hurt,,that guy will go down  promise yo ugrant

You really are getting obbsesive like spermtaster , maybe FatPanda was right , you are idiotic like him..

Oh yeah

[Fatpanda]

You really are getting obbsesive like spermtaster ,   maybe FatPanda was right , you are idiotic like him..

Oh yeah

what do you mean 'MAYBE' 

[tommywishbone]

I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but it seems popular, so I thought I should post. Post.

[MuscleMcMannus]

it wasnt all water weight jackass.  i said part of it was water weight because of a ketogenic diet.  when you first go on a ketogenic diet it causes some water weight loss, so i was wanting to make it clear it was not 20 lbs of fat in 2 weeks.  it was mix of fat and water. 

you know nothing.  less than nothing.  and your posts only accentuate that fact.

Haha reread my post dumbshit.  I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that most of it WAS water.  That's more believable than being a mix of fat and water.  Even on a keto diet you don't lose 20lbs of water and fat in 2 weeks dipshit.  It takes several days for your body to even get into ketosis after you reduce your body's glycogen stores.  Give it up! You and your brother don't know shit about diet and training.  I mean for fuck's sake he thought aspirin in an ECA stack was taken for muscle soreness.  LMAO!  No one fucking takes caffeine and aspirin WITHOUT ephedrine.  That's retarded.  It's the three altogether that creates the synergy. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

PIC OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN

So you honestly are saying that it's possible to lose 20lbs of "fat and water mix" in 2 weeks i.e. 14 days on a ketogenic diet?  Is that what you're saying?  Naturally of course?  LMAO!  Wow!  You've got balls! 

[Eyeball Chambers]

I didn't know you were a Mexican.  Are you legal? 

[Eyeball Chambers]

It is, but I believe they've found a cure for it in the venom of the brown recluse spider.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH AH

[pugalist666]

Oh brother 20lbs in two weeks?  You think we are all dumbfucks don't you?  Where is your friend going to get 20lbs of "water weight" loss in two weeks?  You are retarded simplyHuge.  20lbs in two weeks?  Even if it is water no one drops 20lbs of water in two weeks naturally unless they use lasix.  It's impossible.     Most guys don't even lose that much water weight when they come off a hardcore test and dbol cycle.  LMAO!  That's what I'm saying your statistics don't back up your claims.

losing 20 pounds in 2 weeks is very doable tons of cardio+plus sweat box + limit your self to 3 small meals a day , almost any one can do that

[MuscleMcMannus]

losing 20 pounds in 2 weeks is very doable tons of cardio+plus sweat box + limit your self to 3 small meals a day , almost any one can do that

   You're an idiot.  It takes the body several days to get into ketosis in the first place.  It's not very doable to lose 20lbs worth of fat (water+fat, whatever) in two weeks.  Sorry you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.  If it was so fucking easy then why do so many bodybuilders diet so fucking hard to lose weight?  I mean what's the point of contest prepping for 8+ weeks if it's so fucking easy to drop 20lbs in two weeks?  LOL.  That means in 8 weeks a bodybuilder could lose 80lbs?  So let me ask you something genius how easy is it to gain 20lbs of muscle.  I'd love to hear your opinion on this.  Say I want to gain 5 lbs of muscle?  How long in your expert opinion would it take to gain that?  Probably just a couple of weeks huh?  You retards throw around poundages that aren't even very attainable for a steroid using bodybuilder, let alone a natural. 

[body88]

I agree with McMannus on a this:

1.) There is no fucking way that the second brother is 275 and 235 in those pics.....240 and 220 looks about right.  That said, the dude looks great, so there is nothing to be ashamed about.


Both brothers looks good, they just need to remember to tone down the bullshit claims.

[pumpster]

I didn't know you were a Mexican.  Are you legal? 

hahaha

I have no idea what's going on in this thread, but it seems popular, so I thought I should post.

Excellent

I agree with McMannus on a this:

1.) There is no fucking way that the second brother is 275 and 235 in those pics.....240 and 220 looks about right.  That said, the dude looks great, so there is nothing to be ashamed about.


Both brothers looks good, they just need to remember to tone down the bullshit claims.

If "body" knew half as much as he thinks he does his posts would be more interesting than the pompous drivel he comes out with. The problem with this clown is that he's entirely smitten by his own sense of importance and judgements on others lol feel free to come on down off that soapbox one of these days pal you really have no clue-WTF do you know about BB when you're always posting on the sports board.

[MuscleMcMannus]

im not just saying it.   ive seen it done.     its more than possible b/c it has been done.  as you get closer to you're lean body weight the weight loss slows, but when you are very overweight and start a very strict diet with exercise its very common to see these types of numbers within the first two weeks and even greater numbers for the first month.  as the person gets closer and closer to their lean weight the progress slows and more drastic measures are needed like watching calories + low carbs, etc.  

if you have ever done a strict keto diet you would know these things instead of just assuming that i'm wrong.  ive been there and done it.  so i have a little first hand knowledge on the subject.  ive also helped a lot of friends get started on the diet.  some succeeded b/c they stuck with it, while others, like the two brothers that lost 20 lbs did not succeed b/c they quit after their wives came to visit.  

you dont believe anything....

first its "they use steroids"
then its "he wasnt 275"
then its "you cant pick up girls"
then its "you cant lose that much weight that fast"


no matter what is said you want to try to say its a lie.  im giving real life examples that ive personally seen.  ive been posting pics.  all youve done is just state your own small opinion as loudly as you can to try to prove you are right with no pics, life experience, etc.  you can only assume you cant lose weight fast b/c you've never done it.  you can only assume you cant gain weight fast b/c youve never done.  and you can only assume we took drugs b/c youve never looked 1/4 as good as we do in those pics.  its all bullshit assumptions.  maybe you could have some success if you quit watching other people do it and tried to step up to the plate yourself.  maybe you could step back and take some advice and maybe you would see some results.  

and you try to "rope" others into it by saying things like "we all know"  and "we this..." etc.  trying to insinuate that everyone else is of the same opinion as you.  its ridiculous dude.  

Ok so lets say I came to you and asked you for some advice.  I'd like to drop 20lbs of water/fat in two weeks.  Post what type of diet and exercise routine you'd put me on?  I asked you and your brother to post your diets and your workout routines, hell let's see you post what you're doing now.  What do you eat day in and day out?  What does your training look like?  

Here's what I ate today as part of my carb up refeed before tomorrow when I go back to high fat/low carbs/high protein

Sunday
6 whole eggs
2 cups of oatmeal with milk and butter
tomato
glass of oj
quart of raw milk

Lunch
1/2 lb of top sirloin cubed with sweet onion and olive oil
2 cups of rice
asparagus
quart of raw milk

Snack
1 cup of cottage cheese
1/2 cup of raisins
slice of raw cheese
quart of raw milk

Dinner
1 lb of top sirloin
2 cups of rice
steamed red bell peppers
quart of raw milk

Snack
4oz of raw cream
2 raw eggs
2 tsp of peanut butter
1 cup of oatmeal

Then tomorrow I'll drop back down to zero carbs.  That's my diet for one day.  I'd like to for you to post a snippet of your diet.    

[MuscleMcMannus]

hahaha

Excellent



If "body" knew half as much as he thinks he does his posts would be more interesting. The problem with this clown is that he's entirely smitten by his own sense of importance and judgements on others lol come on down off that soapbox one of these days pal you really have no clue-WTF do you know about BB posting on the sports board?

Shut the fuck up Mr. Bowflex bodybuilder.  You're probably a fat tubby slob who lives off pizza and lives with his mother.  I have no sense of importance.  I give props left and right to people on this board.  And I contribute to just about EVERY major forum here......i.e. gossip, politics, steroid, nutrition, sex, etc.  I'm a very well rounded individual LMAO! 

[Eyeball Chambers]

This thread is great!

[pumpster]

Shut the fuck up Mr. Bowflex bodybuilder.  You're probably a fat tubby slob who lives off pizza and lives with his mother.  I have no sense of importance.  I give props left and right to people on this board.  And I contribute to just about EVERY major forum here......i.e. gossip, politics, steroid, nutrition, sex, etc.  I'm a very well rounded individual LMAO! 

Calm down kid, so far you're losing since he's posted a pic and we have absolutely nothing showing your sorry fatass and skinny arms. 


Hope this helps.

[gh15]

i wish we didnt make so much money on bunch of stupid americans in eastern usa because i swear to god id close that east cost just to show you friend how those 2 brothers shrink into their buck 50 and buck 90 or get up to 20-25% inorder to keep that size they achieved with OUR HELP
too much money ,,we got bunch of american losers buying daily ,,you wont fuckin belivee how much they buy l,,,they cant fuckin feed their own families have no job their economy looks like a nigirian asshole,thjeir president is a failure ,,,their money market as i promised went down to 6000 and they still think about their look,,,we still got fellas ordering 5-10k worth of orders on a weekly basis


also 'wil grant',,before you answer the following comment read it carefully and think,,,in 2002 i had a fella like you about 100 kilogram of fat and redness trying to tell me what i know and dont know,,he laughed like you ,,,he acted like you ,,he had the same arrogance you have but he actually was a bodybuilder not only dealer and wanna be bodybuilder,,,that fella continued to thnk he was invinsible ....he was very much big mouth like you and full of humor,,he laughed at fellas like that sevastes from romania in real life even though those fellas owned him like you love to say here with their words ,,he still thought he was the shit ,,big big mouth about 240 you know where you are stuck at and cant advance,,he also coudnt advance and seeked my help,,but again he was big mouth to everyone and did his drug dealing in a very not smart way ,,i had enough of him in 2006

in 2007 he died in his sleep.



the internet get you a good cover to spit shit will grant ,,but you dont want to mess with me i promise you that it is not gimmick nothing,,you dont want me to look into you,,you just dont

take the little bit of pride you have and stop right there any communications with gh15 ,,you wont because as i said in my story you are just like him,,i wont add more

[MuscleMcMannus]

Calm down kid, so far you're losing since he's posted a pic and we have absolutely nothing showing your sorry fatass and skinny arms. 


Hope this helps.

Where's your pic tube socks? 

[WillGrant]

i wish we didnt make so much money on bunch of stupid americans in eastern usa because i swear to god id close that east cost just to show you friend how those 2 brothers shrink into their buck 50 and buck 90 or get up to 20-25% inorder to keep that size they achieved with OUR HELP
too much money ,,we got bunch of american losers buying daily ,,you wont fuckin belivee how much they buy l,,,they cant fuckin feed their own families have no job their economy looks like a nigirian asshole,thjeir president is a failure ,,,their money market as i promised went down to 6000 and they still think about their look,,,we still got fellas ordering 5-10k worth of orders on a weekly basis


also 'wil grant',,before you answer the following comment read it carefully and think,,,in 2002 i had a fella like you about 100 kilogram of fat and redness trying to tell me what i know and dont know,,he laughed like you ,,,he acted like you ,,he had the same arrogance you have but he actually was a bodybuilder not only dealer and wanna be bodybuilder,,,that fella continued to thnk he was invinsible ....he was very much big mouth like you and full of humor,,he laughed at fellas like that sevastes from romania in real life even though those fellas owned him like you love to say here with their words ,,he still thought he was the shit ,,big big mouth about 240 you know where you are stuck at and cant advance,,he also coudnt advance and seeked my help,,but again he was big mouth to everyone and did his drug dealing in a very not smart way ,,i had enough of him in 2006

in 2007 he died in his sleep.



the internet get you a good cover to spit shit will grant ,,but you dont want to mess with me i promise you that it is not gimmick nothing,,you dont want me to look into you,,you just dont

take the little bit of pride you have and stop right there any communications with gh15 ,,you wont because as i said in my story you are just like him,,i wont add more

BAHAHAHAHA What a fukin loser .. 

[pugalist666]

   You're an idiot.  It takes the body several days to get into ketosis in the first place.  It's not very doable to lose 20lbs worth of fat (water+fat, whatever) in two weeks.  Sorry you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.  If it was so fucking easy then why do so many bodybuilders diet so fucking hard to lose weight?  I mean what's the point of contest prepping for 8+ weeks if it's so fucking easy to drop 20lbs in two weeks?  LOL.  That means in 8 weeks a bodybuilder could lose 80lbs?  So let me ask you something genius how easy is it to gain 20lbs of muscle.  I'd love to hear your opinion on this.  Say I want to gain 5 lbs of muscle?  How long in your expert opinion would it take to gain that?  Probably just a couple of weeks huh?  You retards throw around poundages that aren't even very attainable for a steroid using bodybuilder, let alone a natural. 

woah, relax i have been able to cut 20 pounds in 2 weeks , athletes who have to make weight do it all the time , all with out ketosis and why are you calling me a retard , i don't agree with any thing the wall and the other guy are saying and i agree with you for the most part , I'm just saying its doable to cut 20 pounds in 2 weeks and i can put all the weight back on in a couple of days , amateur boxers and wrestlers do this all the time bro , go to any collage and you will be able to meet at least a dozen guys who have done this , no need for you to get all fired up



to answer your question , for a natural it would take years to ad 20 pounds of lean muscle with out drugs , but cutting water and fat can be done very quickly if you dehydrate your self 

[Big Bro]

I don't understand why this thread is 16 pages..

either way people's mind will not be changed..he said that he doesn't use, those that believe will him to continue to do so, and those that don't won't settle for anything less than a full confession

why the wall and his brother even bother's to respond is beyond me.


99% of juicers that can someone what pass for a natty will always claim a natural status

75% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

we might be better off if he posted pics of the college hot sluts that the claims to be knocking down. That to me is the more interesting discussion.


dude is 22, build like a tank, living the college life and knocking down hoes..who cares if he "dabbles" on the dark side or not?

hahaha

[the anabolic mon]

here's an example of the diet journal ive used in the past.  you only have to fill in the # of the food you ate, and then teh QTY, and it autofills the description, cals, carbs, fat, protein for that food at that given qty.  you can add more items to the box at the top to choose from.  it will work for up to 29 items.  You can add days by following the micro function which is explained inthe top right.

i created this, along with workout journals that autocalc ur max for each exercise, highlight new PR's automatically, and a variety of other things. 

so, yes, we do take the time to keep track of things.  i dont keep very good track while bulking though.  i just eat a lot and try to avoid junk foods.  when dieting thoguh, it takes more precision, so i buckle down and start keeping track.  and ive explained the diet portion early in this thread of the approach i took. 

Great job tracking your diet, Mike. Stick around, looks like you can hang with the big guns here on Getbig.