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[lovemonkey]

You get stretchmarks when the underlying muscle grows at a rate faster than the skin above it can expand, to accommodate the growth. Most people who lift weights with enough intensity and grow at a decent rate develop them, regardless of whether they juice or not. You can't use stretchmarks as an indicator to judge a person's natural status.

True as always. Just to add though, from what I understand certain hormone levels and a vitamin/mineral I can't remember the name of can make you more or less prone to getting stretch marks. So it's just not the size alone.

[Fatpanda]

True as always. Just to add though, from what I understand certain hormone levels and a vitamin/mineral I can't remember the name of can make you more or less prone to getting stretch marks. So it's just not the size alone.

collagen 

[lovemonkey]

collagen 

See it's possible to be friends! Or at least pretend to 

[pumpster]

from what I understand certain hormone levels and a vitamin/mineral I can't remember the name of can make you more or less prone to getting stretch marks. So it's just not the size alone.

I just get the feeling you've never lifted; that stuff about vitamins and minerals helping the marks is BS other than helping them move product.


Hope this helps.

[Cleanest Natural]

friend,,this is just you rpost i chose to quote but this whole redicoulous thread need to be erased or put under astrec so it can be learnt,,

i wil lay here excatly what the 2 fellas used

the litlte fella the 5'9 180lb and his brother the bigger fella  somewhere between 2003-2007 bought fina pellets and were members of a board called getfina.com ,,thats where they learned how to home cook fina which is a very easy process done by most naturals,,

it is pennies and kits were sold all over the internet,,still do by fellons like will grant etc etc ,,took him as example since he is on the main land usa,,,

now,,the fina pellets who were purchaseed perfectkly leagal are the strongest hormone exist ,,they will hardly bloat you when cutting yet maintain and even increase your lean uscle tissue while dieting,,the 5'9 fella used it mainly during cutting,,with eca/clen and while  bulking he mainly used pro hormones but due to the catastrophic diet yu ocant tell due to accesive amount of fat held on the body but still rest assured pro hormones were there while bulking for short fella and ofcourse the tren ace and eca/clen during cutting,,the short fella has the face of a tren ace user that just afraid to chizeled down since he knows he doesnt have enough muscle mass to be chizeled and still look decent in bodybuilding terms,,

now the big fella,,

the big fella is a more complicated stoiry ,,both live in wv usa? wv usa the whole region of virgina and wv is a known ug operation and  fina heaven,,,the bigger fella used dianabol and testosterone as a base,,he is hormonized not heavy hormonized but hormonized,,he cut also on tren ace made of fina and eca/clen

as i said before every inch = 7 pounds

both fellas are and should be considered absolit liars WITH GOOD BUILT!

gh15 approved

THANK YOU .....

I SPOTTED THEM BOTH, CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT

I CALLED IT


AS I SAID .... BESIDES EXPERIENCE, I LEARNED FROM THE BEST

[Drama Queen]

You get stretchmarks when the underlying muscle grows at a rate faster than the skin above it can expand, to accommodate the growth. Most people who lift weights with enough intensity and grow at a decent rate develop them, regardless of whether they juice or not. You can't use stretchmarks as an indicator to judge a person's natural status.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying ,that  guy uses steroids because he has stretch marks ,all  I'm saying is that stretch marks are more common in juicers than natural bodybuilders.

[lovemonkey]

I just get the feeling you've never lifted; that stuff about vitamins and minerals helping the marks is BS other than helping them move product.


Hope this helps.

Yes I do lift and have been doing so for 4 years. I've gained close to 40 lbs, mostly muscles so I know what stretch marks are like alright?

On that vitamin thing, you could very well be correct as my memory betrays me sometimes. But I was implying that the "vitamin" could help prevent getting stretch marks, not getting rid of the existing ones.

[Drama Queen]

you can get stretch marks pretty much everywhere.  

I get mine predominately around my shoulder/chest tie-in because thats the area that gets hits the most when i bench press.  I get them quite a bit around my inner thighs as well when im squatting pretty consistently.  ive had them running down my arms before as well.  

my brother had them on his forearms once, which is rare, but he was gaining weight very fast at the time b/c of how much he was eating.  

it doesnt have to be muscle gain that causes the stretch marks, its any sort of size gain (fat, muscle, swelling) that can cause the stretch marks to appear.  I personally dont like getting htem b/c they look bad and eventually turn white like scars.  

gaining weight slowly will help prevent them.

Do you agree that stretch marks are more common in juicers than natural bodybuilders ?

[lovemonkey]

Do you agree that stretch marks are more common in juicers than natural bodybuilders ?

Not necessarily, but one thing I've noticed though is that juicers tend to get at more odd places like at the side delt or forearms. Areas which naturals struggle to develop.

[The.Giant]

friend,,this is just you rpost i chose to quote but this whole redicoulous thread need to be erased or put under astrec so it can be learnt,,

i wil lay here excatly what the 2 fellas used

the litlte fella the 5'9 180lb and his brother the bigger fella  somewhere between 2003-2007 bought fina pellets and were members of a board called getfina.com ,,thats where they learned how to home cook fina which is a very easy process done by most naturals,,

it is pennies and kits were sold all over the internet,,still do by fellons like will grant etc etc ,,took him as example since he is on the main land usa,,,

now,,the fina pellets who were purchaseed perfectkly leagal are the strongest hormone exist ,,they will hardly bloat you when cutting yet maintain and even increase your lean uscle tissue while dieting,,the 5'9 fella used it mainly during cutting,,with eca/clen and while  bulking he mainly used pro hormones but due to the catastrophic diet yu ocant tell due to accesive amount of fat held on the body but still rest assured pro hormones were there while bulking for short fella and ofcourse the tren ace and eca/clen during cutting,,the short fella has the face of a tren ace user that just afraid to chizeled down since he knows he doesnt have enough muscle mass to be chizeled and still look decent in bodybuilding terms,,

now the big fella,,

the big fella is a more complicated stoiry ,,both live in wv usa? wv usa the whole region of virgina and wv is a known ug operation and  fina heaven,,,the bigger fella used dianabol and testosterone as a base,,he is hormonized not heavy hormonized but hormonized,,he cut also on tren ace made of fina and eca/clen

as i said before every inch = 7 pounds

both fellas are and should be considered absolit liars WITH GOOD BUILT!

gh15 approved

MASSIVE ownage

[BIG_STI]

. . .and you are?

Some skinny teen age geek

[wes]

JUICED OR NATTY,JUST ABOUT ANYONE WHO TRAINS HARD GETS STRETCH MARKS...........GEEZUS!!

Usually occurs early on in your traini ng "career".

[Cleanest Natural]

JUICED OR NATTY,JUST ABOUT ANYONE WHO TRAINS HARD GETS STRETCH MARKS...........GEEZUS!!

Usually occurs early on in your traini ng "career".

[The Master]

Getting stretchmarks = quite common among natural trainers.

[pumpster]

It's killing our pasty white tennis player that simplyhuge in just a few months drug-free already trumps most of if not all of seve's recycled attention-whore drug addicted shots.

[Drama Queen]

X 2

[wavelength]

Getting stretchmarks = quite common among natural trainers.

I gotz them too.

[The Master]

I gotz them too.

Same here (growing Debusseys arms from 8 - 9 inches blew that fucking skin, dammit)

[wavelength]

Same here (growing Debusseys arms from 8 - 9 inches blew that fucking skin, dammit)

PED

[The Master]

PED

PED?

[io856]

PED?

performance enhancing drugs

[wavelength]

performance enhancing drugs

yes, what's your cycle debussey?

[io856]

yes, what's your cycle debussey?

cycle?  year round baby, year round

[The Master]

yes, what's your cycle debussey?

Injured now, so no training or drugs

Usually: 750 mg testo cyp, 500 mg deca and some D-bol for kickoffs + lots of sperm in the syringes. Debusseys arms grew from 8 - 9 inches that way.

[wavelength]

Injured now, so no training or drugs

Usually: 750 mg testo cyp, 500 mg deca and some D-bol for kickoffs + lots of sperm in the syringes. Debusseys arms grew from 8 - 9 inches that way.

you would be a cool guy to drink a few beers with