friends,,i took the time to read this thread and the posts on it since i last posted here,,first and formost,,musclemcmanus there is no need for you to humilate those fellas,,every one on this board is a bodybuilders and knows what it takes to get there,,so gh15 understands you shout this for the new generation of young kids who comes on getbig but still those kids read gh15 like bible so they already know and understand that hormones is the name of the game,,,the rest of getbig 90+ % of them are on aas and hormones so they too know what it takes,,even the 2 btoehrs know it but you put them in a 22 catch ,,leave them alone,,they have good built and are serious about bodybuilding ,,its a very narcsistic thing bodybuilding and the lies fly in bodybuilding like buns out of bakery,,every one who reads this thread already knows theyh both use so enough of that
now ,,gh15 will write a post in few min about the whole subject and this will be a very important thread so you all should look for it when it comes up ,,,it will guide you through the understanding of what it takes for what look,,its going to be titled the 3 stages of a bodybuilder and the forth stage for pro
