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[MuscleMcMannus]

lol i dont use eph because it is banned by WADA and considered a controlled substance lol i wasnt using caf and aspirin to burn fat i was using it for enegry during the workout and muscle soreness lol anyone who has dieted naturally can tell you that a low carb diet with some low intensity cardio will melt the fat right off you

as for shitloads lol i wasnt takin a bottle a day there hoss, its a relative term...

i got nothing against steroids...or people who use um, its a personal choice, i jus dont know enough about um to consider taking something so powerful with Potential long term adverse effects

like i said i jus do the BB for fun cuz it gives me a reason not to go out and drink beer and eat pizza every weekend...MM you have been squeeling over this thread for days, give it up man you took roids and still look like shit, im sorry i really am i wish i could help you but you strike me as someone who lacks the disciplene to put in the time required to make gains

BTW i gotta get a blood test done in a few days for my internship...i would be happy to post the results lol i dunno if that would prove anything or not im not sure what you look for other than elevated test levels and high LDL/ low HDL

lol and i know "brutul books in the backround"

PS MM i never claimed anything lol read my posts, i didnt even start this thread lol and if using caffiene makes u a drug user than im pretty sure all of america is guilty...ever drink a red bull, coffee, so on and so forth, you do it for energy the same reason i do lol where do u draw the line....i draw mine By WADA standerds cuz im hoping to compete in Olympic Weightlifting soon ( a new challenge and may i say a very humbling one)  If WADA says its ok than who am i to argue....and more notably lol Who the fuck are you to argue, they are professionals, you just post on getbig  

Dude there is no consistency in anything you post.  First you said you were working out for 10+ years and were a lifetime natural.  That means at 22 you would have been lifting consistently since you were 12?  Which is a stupid statement in and of itself because how many 12 year olds do you know workout "consistently" at 12 years old?  Were you Richard Sandrak?  LMAO!  Then you say oh well I didn't really workout correctly till I was 16.  So my question to you is how big were you at 16?  You claim you were 19 and 275 lbs which according to you isn't THAT big because most of it was fat? LMAO!  Again I want to see a pic of you at 16.  You looked like a 150lb twink in your MMA photos and your skirt highland game photo.  Your arms looked about 14 inches in the skirt photo.  Your weight sure does fluctuate a lot for someone who is supposedly natural.  And WADA is a fucking joke dude!  If you knew anything about real bodybuilding you'd understand that.  Tons of guys in WADA are not truly natural.  You think if guys in PROFESSIONAL Olympics are doping guys in WADA aren't going to?  Haha you got A LOT to learn about life. 

[MuscleMcMannus]

Whats the point of arguing in this thread? Its not that if they admit anything they will turn back to their old state...they look awesome now so who cares if they used or not. Good job.

This thread is getting really old and it's getting pointless to argue.  Hell the whole thread was pointless.  But you gotta wonder when these threads always go 12+  pages.  If these guys knew they were natural they wouldn't spend countless hours posting arguments defending their position.  If it were me I'd say fuck it I know what i am I don't have to prove anything.  The onus always seems to be on them to prove themselves.  Hahah.  These guys will probably argue another 12 pages.  The Wall said he was done arguing pages ago.  He's still here!  LMAO!   

[MuscleMcMannus]

And the wall what are blood tests going to prove if you used steroids at 19 years old considering you are now 22?  Where's that pic of you at 16, 17, 18 and 19?  I mean if I was growing like that and got up to 275lbs at 19 I sure as hell would have been proud and kept a good photo record of it.  Cause as much as you think 275 at 6'2 isnt' a big deal most people would disagree.  I mean that would make you the biggest kid in most American high schools.  But it's not that big eh? 

[CastIron]

This thread is getting really old and it's getting pointless to argue.  Hell the whole thread was pointless.  But you gotta wonder when these threads always go 12+  pages.  If these guys knew they were natural they wouldn't spend countless hours posting arguments defending their position.  If it were me I'd say fuck it I know what i am I don't have to prove anything.  The onus always seems to be on them to prove themselves.  Hahah.  These guys will probably argue another 12 pages.  The Wall said he was done arguing pages ago.  He's still here!  LMAO!   

u suk ballz

[MuscleMcMannus]

u suk ballz

And you're probably an immature, titey whitey wearing 19 year old who's a lifetime lifter as well?  LMAO! 

[pumpster]

Whats the point of arguing in this thread? Its not that if they admit anything they will turn back to their old state...they look awesome now so who cares if they used or not. Good job.

Endlessly debating the hard work involved in doing this naturally greatly mitigates intense feelings of inadequacy amongst those without the balls to bring it in the gym and/or shitty genetics. Seve is the textbook example.

[lovemonkey]

Endlessly debating the hard work involved in doing this naturally greatly mitigates intense feelings of inadequacy amongst those without the balls to bring it in the gym and/or shitty genetics. Seve is the textbook example.

You go get em, bowflex-man.

[CastIron]

And you're probably an immature, titey whitey wearing 19 year old who's a lifetime lifter as well?  LMAO! 

epic failure at life cumbak.

[The Wall]

lol yep started at 11 years old and my brother was 13...was a long time ago but ive got pics of that too but they arent digital lol i would have to take a picture of a picture not sure how that would work out (no scanner)

the reason my weight fluxs so much is bc i constantly have to lose and gain weight for all the various sports i do...lol its so funny that you are makin fun of my arm size when you havent posted any pics or given a shred of credibility.  Yes i know that most Olympic athletes are on juice lol but who said i was going to the olympics lol i jus like the sport of weightlifting its fun to watch and compete in


and your right i wasnt lifting correctly at 11 years old lol but i was lifting and i did read Arnolds Encyc/bible lol i wasnt doing everything right but i had some basic understanding of nutrition and what exercises to do...and when your that young, its enough to give u a solid foundation

you are starting to Meltdown pretty hard core there MM you better go have a wine spritzer and kool off

im still here because its sunday i got nothing to do lol and because getbig is a way of life lol you live by the keyboard...you die by the key board, the internet warriors code!!!!

[lovemonkey]

lol yep started at 11 years old and my brother was 13...was a long time ago but ive got pics of that too but they arent digital lol i would have to take a picture of a picture not sure how that would work out (no scanner)

the reason my weight fluxs so much is bc i constantly have to lose and gain weight for all the various sports i do...lol its so funny that you are makin fun of my arm size when you havent posted any pics or given a shred of credibility.  Yes i know that most Olympic athletes are on juice lol but who said i was going to the olympics lol i jus like the sport of weightlifting its fun to watch and compete in


and your right i wasnt lifting correctly at 11 years old lol but i was lifting and i did read Arnolds Encyc/bible lol i wasnt doing everything right but i had some basic understanding of nutrition and what exercises to do...and when your that young, its enough to give u a solid foundation

you are starting to Meltdown pretty hard core there MM you better go have a wine spritzer and kool off

im still here because its sunday i got nothing to do lol and because getbig is a way of life lol you live by the keyboard...you die by the key board, the internet warriors code!!!!

Does saying "lol" make you feel good?

[The Wall]

  you wanna be my secretary

[MuscleMcMannus]

lol yep started at 11 years old and my brother was 13...was a long time ago but ive got pics of that too but they arent digital lol i would have to take a picture of a picture not sure how that would work out (no scanner)

the reason my weight fluxs so much is bc i constantly have to lose and gain weight for all the various sports i do...lol its so funny that you are makin fun of my arm size when you havent posted any pics or given a shred of credibility.  Yes i know that most Olympic athletes are on juice lol but who said i was going to the olympics lol i jus like the sport of weightlifting its fun to watch and compete in


and your right i wasnt lifting correctly at 11 years old lol but i was lifting and i did read Arnolds Encyc/bible lol i wasnt doing everything right but i had some basic understanding of nutrition and what exercises to do...and when your that young, its enough to give u a solid foundation

you are starting to Meltdown pretty hard core there MM you better go have a wine spritzer and kool off

im still here because its sunday i got nothing to do lol and because getbig is a way of life lol you live by the keyboard...you die by the key board, the internet warriors code!!!!

So you are admitting that your arms are 14 inches in that pic?  So that means that your arms fluctuate by 3-4 inches naturally?  IS that what you're saying?  

If I'm wrong why don't you quit posting in this thread and chaulk me up to being a jackass internet wannabe who's just some fat or skinny twink sitting behind a computer.  Why if there isn't any truth to anything I say are you still continuing to argue with me?  Everyone knows I'm the dumbass in this thread right?  LOL.  

[The Wall]

holy jesus lol i didnt "admit" anything dude anyones arms can look small in a pic lol my arms are just fine there big guy....believe it or not most sports dont require a sleevless shirt and front double bicep shot lol u are failing miserably

the reason i keep posting in this thread is cuz your growin on me....your kinda like my new internet bitch lol

this is too much fun for me to just walk away cuz i have the proof unlike alot of people and u just CANT STAND IT lol your melting right in front of me how could anyone walk away from that

[MuscleMcMannus]

holy jesus lol i didnt "admit" anything dude anyones arms can look small in a pic lol my arms are just fine there big guy....believe it or not most sports dont require a sleevless shirt and front double bicep shot lol u are failing miserably

the reason i keep posting in this thread is cuz your growin on me....your kinda like my new internet bitch lol

this is too much fun for me to just walk away cuz i have the proof unlike alot of people and u just CANT STAND IT lol your melting right in front of me how could anyone walk away from that

You still don't get it do you?  I want you to post a pic at 16 years old.  That was only 6 years ago.  So I'm sure you still have some digital pics of when you were 16 right?  I mean afterall digital cameras were around then right?  That was only 2003. 

I want you to post a pic of when you were 16 throughout your transition up to 19 at 275lbs.  But you fail to do this?  What are you hiding?

[Bobby]

holy jesus lol i didnt "admit" anything dude anyones arms can look small in a pic lol my arms are just fine there big guy....believe it or not most sports dont require a sleevless shirt and front double bicep shot lol u are failing miserably

the reason i keep posting in this thread is cuz your growin on me....your kinda like my new internet bitch lol

this is too much fun for me to just walk away cuz i have the proof unlike alot of people and u just CANT STAND IT lol your melting right in front of me how could anyone walk away from that

don't worry i believe you

let's hear more about your diet and training, how low were your carbs when you dieted down? i did chest today 110s for 12, you? post some lifts man

[MuscleMcMannus]

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you to be honest.  I mean your entire identity revolves around your muscles and physique.  And here you are melting that your entire would is coming crashing down because I question your natural status.  Dude there is more to life than lifting and muscles.  At 22 you're way too young to have such a one tracked mind.  Enjoy life and get out more.  I highly doubt you're pouding as much pussy as you claim since you are a natural bodybuilder attending college full time?  Afterall natural bodybuilding requires a huge amount of dedication and discipline.  How many chicks wouldn't be weirded out by a guy that pulls out a few chicken breasts from his pocket during a movie date  

[The Wall]

lol cuz at 16 i was doing wrestling....you know sports, you ever play sports there chubbs? i didnt start even think about doing shows until i was almost 20

and no i dont have any digital photos of me at 16 lol i think ive been more than generous in the photo department   but im sure if i look for um i can find some photos and take a picture of them for you big guy....we are all waiting to see the wizard of truth that you must be lol ive posted a 100 pics and yet you post zero and whine for MORE MORE MORE lol i see no reason why i should post more whack off material for you when you havent produced any pics of your own

PS i didnt get a digi camera until i was 19 years old lol im not an internet millionaire like everyone else on here   i was what you call "middle class"

[The Wall]

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you to be honest.  I mean your entire identity revolves around your muscles and physique.  And here you are melting that your entire would is coming crashing down because I question your natural status.  Dude there is more to life than lifting and muscles.  At 22 you're way too young to have such a one tracked mind.  Enjoy life and get out more.  I highly doubt you're pouding as much pussy as you claim since you are a natural bodybuilder attending college full time?  Afterall natural bodybuilding requires a huge amount of dedication and discipline.  How many chicks wouldn't be weirded out by a guy that pulls out a few chicken breasts from his pocket during a movie date  

lol lets see ive competed in MMA, Boxing, Bodybuilding, Strongman, Im a Full Time Student, Have a Job, Olympic Weightlifting(no comps yet jus training for it atm) and have provided pics and proof of all of these things....one track mind lol keep trying

and questioning the amount of pussy you can pull in college with a physique like mine is just absurd

[MuscleMcMannus]

lol cuz at 16 i was doing wrestling....you know sports, you ever play sports there chubbs? i didnt start even think about doing shows until i was almost 20

and no i dont have any digital photos of me at 16 lol i think ive been more than generous in the photo department   but im sure if i look for um i can find some photos and take a picture of them for you big guy....we are all waiting to see the wizard of truth that you must be lol ive posted a 100 pics and yet you post zero and whine for MORE MORE MORE lol i see no reason why i should post more whack off material for you when you havent produced any pics of your own

PS i didnt get a digi camera until i was 19 years old lol im not an internet millionaire like everyone else on here   i was what you call "middle class"

Yeah I was a D1 athlete in college buddy.  Dude you don't even have to post a pic at 16.  Just post a pic of 18 and then your transition to 19 years old at 275lbs.  You have not been generous in the pics department.  You keep posting random pics that show no transition from when you were a tiny tit to 275lbs of brickshithouse muscle.  Sorry but that one bloated pic you posted is the definition of steroid use.  

What kind of diet did you follow in order to get up to 275lbs?  Funny every time I'm on cycle everyone always says how red my face is.  Same for all my enhanced buddies.  It's a tell tale sign of roids.  Along with the bloated sausage look.  Here's the thing dude.......you've got a stellar physique at 22.  Hell if you would have posted those pics alone and only those pics.  I would have believed you were natural possibly.  But when you posted your big bloated pics and claimed you were 275lbs at 19 and then claimed you lost 30-45lbs naturally without losing hardly any size.......and then several pages later admitting you used caffeine and asiprin.  Which if you really understood drugs you'd understand that no one takes "aspirin" for muscle soreness.  That's not the purpose behind aspirin in a ECA stack.  

Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by sustaining elevated cAMP levels

So again you're just really dumb or a complete and utter bullshitter.  Granted that you're in college I find it hard to believe that former.

[MuscleMcMannus]

lol lets see ive competed in MMA, Boxing, Bodybuilding, Strongman, Im a Full Time Student, Have a Job, Olympic Weightlifting(no comps yet jus training for it atm) and have provided pics and proof of all of these things....one track mind lol keep trying

and questioning the amount of pussy you can pull in college with a physique like mine is just absurd

   LMAO!  Oh brother you have a lot to learn about chicks dude.  You strike me as the type of dipshit that goes to college frat parties and gets girls drunk in order to fuck them.  Are you in a fraternity as well?  Haha just give up dude your ego driven ass is getting handed to you on a silver platter.......Mr. I use aspirin for muscle soreness. 

[bigmc]

  LMAO!  Oh brother you have a lot to learn about chicks dude.  You strike me as the type of dipshit that goes to college frat parties and gets girls drunk in order to fuck them.  Are you in a fraternity as well?  Haha just give up dude your ego driven ass is getting handed to you on a silver platter.......Mr. I use aspirin for muscle soreness. 

have you ever posted a pic

or backed anything you claim up

you talk alot of shit for an anonymous little bitch

no offence 

[The Wall]

lol if im not in a frat they cost alot of money to be in one and i spend all my money on alcohol to get bitches drunk and take them home to fuck....looks like i got alot ot learn about women lol Teach me your ways MM

show us all the hot pussy youve been pulling with that massive bod of yours

your officially cut off you tiny tit you!! lol post a pic up and ill post a pic of me injecting myself with some Dr pepper/steroids lol

[MuscleMcMannus]

have you ever posted a pic

or backed anything you claim up

you talk alot of shit for an anonymous little bitch

no offence 

My pic has absolutely nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread, stop beating a dead horse.  You just make yourself look like a fool.  Stick to the facts dumbass..  

[bigmc]

My pic has absolutely nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread, stop beating a dead horse.  You just make yourself look like a fool.  Stick to the facts dumbass..  

take your own advice princess

for it is you that is the fool

[The Wall]

My pic has absolutely nothing to do with anything I've said in this thread, stop beating a dead horse.  You just make yourself look like a fool.  Stick to the facts dumbass..  

lol epic avoiding posting a pic that would reveal a 150 lb twink that sits at home worshiping muscle mags and whacking off during lifetime specials

face it man, you got owned hard in this thread, it doesnt mean you have to like it, it just means you gotta create another gimmick and come back strong in the next thread