DUMBASS Ignorant People Exposed and PWNED at TEABAGGER Rally!

[The True Adonis]

[The True Adonis]

I guess this MORON also forgot that Abraham Lincoln created the Income Tax to win the Civil War.  A common trend with you "Teabaggers"- Not knowing a damn thing about history or facts.

[tonymctones]

LOL yes b/c all of those vids about obama supporters where very indicative of the average obama supporter right? there are idiots in all walks of life, quit being a dip shit.

[Soul Crusher]

I guess this MORON also forgot that Abraham Lincoln created the Income Tax to win the Civil War.  A common trend with you "Teabaggers"- Not knowing a damn thing about history or facts.

The income tax was instituted in in the early 1900's, not 1861.

[The True Adonis]

The income tax was instituted in in the early 1900's, not 1861.

Do be Do be DO!

Uh,
The first United States income tax was imposed in July 1861, at 3% of all incomes over 800 dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_LincolnOther important legislation involved economic matters, including the first income tax and higher tariffs. Also included was the creation of the system of national banks by the National Banking Acts of 1863, 1864, and 1865, which allowed the creation of a strong national financial system. Congress created and Lincoln approved the Department of Agriculture in 1862, although that institution would not become a Cabinet-level department until 1889.

[a_joker10]

The income tax was instituted in in the early 1900's, not 1861.

Exactly the supreme court had it repealed until the 16th Amendment.
This was to help fund WW1.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html

[The True Adonis]

Exactly the supreme court had it repealed until the 16th Amendment.
This was to help fund WW1.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html

Uh, the first income tax was 1861 under Lincoln. You people have never read any history and it is obvious.




1861

In July 1861, the Congress passed a 3% tax on all net income above $600 a year (about $10,000 today). However, no revenue was ever raised because a second tax passed before the first was due (on June 30, 1862). The war's demand on resources made the earlier tax ineffective, and the sale of bonds could not keep up with the expenditures of the administration and the armies. In March, the Congress passed an income tax of 3% on annual incomes of $600 to $10,000 and 5% on incomes from $10,000 to $50,000 and threw in a small inheritance tax too. Lincoln signed the bill on July 1, 1862 to take effect a month later. The Union debt then stood at $505 million.[2] This tax also included the first appearance of withholding and was applied to federal salaries and on interest and dividends.[3]

In 1863, Congress then passed a special 5% tax on incomes above $600 to pay for an army recruitment program that would pay men $2 per recruit and pay recruit's their first month's pay in advance.[4]

In mid-1864, the rates were raised again. The 3% tax on incomes above $600 was increased to 5%, a new 7.5% rate was introduced on incomes over $5,000, and the old rate of 5% on incomes above $10,000 was raised to 10%. The tax on interest and dividends was also raised from 3% to 5%.

And for the first time, with the changes, Americans now had to swear to the veracity of their tax returns, and government assessors could now challenge a return. The penalty for not filing a tax return was likewise doubled to 10%.[5]

At first, the income tax raised comparatively little revenue in relation to the war's demand for it. Harvesting only $2.7 million in 1862–1863, by the next year, the tax pulled in $20.2 million. And believing that many large-income earners were eluding the taxman, Congress raised the rate on incomes over $5,000 to 10% and gave the assessors the power to estimate income and increased the penalties for noncompliance, from fines of 25% to double that for filing fraudulent returns. By 1866, 30% of federal revenues derived from the income tax totaling $73 million, and derived primarily from just three states, New York, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.

In a move to increase compliance and the veracity of returns, the government even made tax returns available to the press. This practice was outlawed in 1870.[6]

The Confederacy also experimented with a progressive income tax, eventually imposing a tax in kind that further destroyed the already ruptured and blockaded economy of the South

[Hugo Chavez]

Do be Do be DO!

Uh,
The first United States income tax was imposed in July 1861, at 3% of all incomes over 800 dollars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_LincolnOther important legislation involved economic matters, including the first income tax and higher tariffs. Also included was the creation of the system of national banks by the National Banking Acts of 1863, 1864, and 1865, which allowed the creation of a strong national financial system. Congress created and Lincoln approved the Department of Agriculture in 1862, although that institution would not become a Cabinet-level department until 1889.

ouch 3333!!! P'wned...

[The True Adonis]

Exactly the supreme court had it repealed until the 16th Amendment.
This was to help fund WW1.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html

FUCKING CHRIST!
Read your articles that you post. What the hell is wrong with you?  Are you really that dumb that you don`t bother reading what you post?  Here, this is the first paragraph to what you posted. AGAIN, it highlights what I was trying to educate you on.  You are a moron.


In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. Additional sales and excise taxes were added, and an “inheritance” tax also made its debut. In 1866, internal revenue collections reached their highest point in the nation's 90-year history—more than $310 million, an amount not reached again until 1911.

[a_joker10]

The income tax proposal of 1861 was a forerunner, but not the same as the income tax law passed by 16th Amendment.
But I guess you can't read either.

 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html

In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. Additional sales and excise taxes were added, and an “inheritance” tax also made its debut. In 1866, internal revenue collections reached their highest point in the nation's 90-year history—more than $310 million, an amount not reached again until 1911.

The Act of 1862 established the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue. The Commissioner was given the power to assess, levy, and collect taxes, and the right to enforce the tax laws through seizure of property and income and through prosecution. The powers and authority remain very much the same today.

In 1868, Congress again focused its taxation efforts on tobacco and distilled spirits and eliminated the income tax in 1872. It had a short-lived revival in 1894 and 1895. In the latter year, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the income tax was unconstitutional because it was not apportioned among the states in conformity with the Constitution.

In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system. The amendment gave Congress legal authority to tax income and resulted in a revenue law that taxed incomes of both individuals and corporations. In fiscal year 1918, annual internal revenue collections for the first time passed the billion-dollar mark, rising to $5.4 billion by 1920. With the advent of World War II, employment increased, as did tax collections—to $7.3 billion. The withholding tax on wages was introduced in 1943 and was instrumental in increasing the number of taxpayers to 60 million and tax collections to $43 billion by 1945.

[The True Adonis]

The income tax proposal of 1861 was a forerunner, but not the same as the income tax law passed by 16th Amendment.
But I guess you can't read either.

 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html

In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. Additional sales and excise taxes were added, and an “inheritance” tax also made its debut. In 1866, internal revenue collections reached their highest point in the nation's 90-year history—more than $310 million, an amount not reached again until 1911.

The Act of 1862 established the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue. The Commissioner was given the power to assess, levy, and collect taxes, and the right to enforce the tax laws through seizure of property and income and through prosecution. The powers and authority remain very much the same today.

In 1868, Congress again focused its taxation efforts on tobacco and distilled spirits and eliminated the income tax in 1872. It had a short-lived revival in 1894 and 1895. In the latter year, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the income tax was unconstitutional because it was not apportioned among the states in conformity with the Constitution.

In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system. The amendment gave Congress legal authority to tax income and resulted in a revenue law that taxed incomes of both individuals and corporations. In fiscal year 1918, annual internal revenue collections for the first time passed the billion-dollar mark, rising to $5.4 billion by 1920. With the advent of World War II, employment increased, as did tax collections—to $7.3 billion. The withholding tax on wages was introduced in 1943 and was instrumental in increasing the number of taxpayers to 60 million and tax collections to $43 billion by 1945.

You really are stupid.  The first income tax in United States History and under law was under Lincoln as that article points out.

You cannot wiggle out of your own stupidity here.  It is clear you know nothing of history.

[Soul Crusher]

ouch 3333!!! P'wned...

Absolutely not.  The income tax as we have it today was codified in the 1900's, not the civil war.

[Hugo Chavez]

The income tax proposal of 1861 was a forerunner, but not the same as the income tax law passed by 16th Amendment.
But I guess you can't read either.

 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html

In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. Additional sales and excise taxes were added, and an “inheritance” tax also made its debut. In 1866, internal revenue collections reached their highest point in the nation's 90-year history—more than $310 million, an amount not reached again until 1911.

The Act of 1862 established the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue. The Commissioner was given the power to assess, levy, and collect taxes, and the right to enforce the tax laws through seizure of property and income and through prosecution. The powers and authority remain very much the same today.

In 1868, Congress again focused its taxation efforts on tobacco and distilled spirits and eliminated the income tax in 1872. It had a short-lived revival in 1894 and 1895. In the latter year, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that the income tax was unconstitutional because it was not apportioned among the states in conformity with the Constitution.

In 1913, the 16th Amendment to the Constitution made the income tax a permanent fixture in the U.S. tax system. The amendment gave Congress legal authority to tax income and resulted in a revenue law that taxed incomes of both individuals and corporations. In fiscal year 1918, annual internal revenue collections for the first time passed the billion-dollar mark, rising to $5.4 billion by 1920. With the advent of World War II, employment increased, as did tax collections—to $7.3 billion. The withholding tax on wages was introduced in 1943 and was instrumental in increasing the number of taxpayers to 60 million and tax collections to $43 billion by 1945.

how does this negate TA's point that the first income tax was under under Lincoln?  His point against the guy in the video is still valid.  Sometimes you have to know when to say, oops, my bust instead of digging a deeper hole.  same thing for you 3333, when you're looking at the point of the guy in the video and TA, you're off on an irrelevant tangent.

[LurkerNoMore]

Conservative pwnage all over the place here.

[a_joker10]

Absolutely not.  The income tax as we have it today was codified in the 1900's, not the civil war.

Exactly.

The Income tax in 1861 didn't include businesses or corporations was a flat tax and was repealed by the Supreme court.

The modern income tax that everyone knows and loves didn't come into effect until 1913.

After the 16th Amendment.

But who needs history.

[Soul Crusher]

My point was that the income tax we have today is product of the law passed in the 1900's, not the one he talked about duting 1861 for the sole purpose to fund the civil war.  

What we have today is a completely different situation.  

BTW - the first inxcome tax imposed a 1% tax.

[Hugo Chavez]

way to ignore my post above, I see why you guys feel the need to do so lol...

[The True Adonis]

Absolutely not.  The income tax as we have it today was codified in the 1900's, not the civil war.

Chris, don`t succumb to stupidity like your predecessor.  You oughta read a book or two on the civil war or on Lincoln.  There are plenty out there.  The first income tax and income tax laws were enacted under Lincoln to raise money for the Union in the Civil War.  The tax policies then continued onwards to pay the debt and to ensure reconstruction of the South.

The point was the idiot in the video was somehow trying to equate that Lincoln was against taxation and that you "bear the fruits of your labor" or some nonsense like that.  In reality, Lincoln was the first to propose, enact and pass the Income Tax as law.

If you ever talk to some Ron Paulers, they tend to HATE and ABHOR Lincoln for creating the Income Tax.  Ron Paul himself does not think too highly of Lincoln.  For that, I think Ron Paul is a moron.

[24KT]

Conservative pwnage all over the place here.

{yawn} so what else is new?  

[Soul Crusher]

how does this negate TA's point that the first income tax was under under Lincoln?  His point against the guy in the video is still valid.  Sometimes you have to know when to say, oops, my bust instead of digging a deeper hole.  same thing for you 3333, when you're looking at the point of the guy in the video and TA, you're off on an irrelevant tangent.

There are dumb asses all over the place, no different than that famous lady who was crying saying Obama was going to pay her mortgage or those fools in Florida asking for more benefits and welfare from Obama.  

[Hugo Chavez]

There are dumb asses all over the place, no different than that famous lady who was crying saying Obama was going to pay her mortgage or those fools in Florida asking for more benefits and welfare from Obama.  

hahahahaha... WHAT?  This is your final answer LOLOLOLOL... wow...

[a_joker10]

way to ignore my post above, I see why you guys feel the need to do so lol...

you posted while I was writing my post.

But more to your point.

The precursor the modern income tax was passed in 1861.
The modern income tax act was passed in 1913.

This is my first post in this topic

Exactly the supreme court had it repealed until the 16th Amendment.
This was to help fund WW1.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html

Seems that what I posted is exactly what I have been saying.

[Soul Crusher]

Chris, don`t succumb to stupidity like your predecessor.  You oughta read a book or two on the civil war or on Lincoln.  There are plenty out there.  The first income tax and income tax laws were enacted under Lincoln to raise money for the Union in the Civil War.  The tax policies then continued onwards to pay the debt and to ensure reconstruction of the South.

The point was the idiot in the video was somehow trying to equate that Lincoln was against taxation and that you "bear the fruits of your labor" or some nonsense like that.  In reality, Lincoln was the first to propose, enact and pass the Income Tax as law.

If you ever talk to some Ron Paulers, they tend to HATE and ABHOR Lincoln for creating the Income Tax.  Ron Paul himself does not think too highly of Lincoln.  For that, I think Ron Paul is a moron.


That guy was a dope, but he does not speak for me.

[Hugo Chavez]

Chris, don`t succumb to stupidity like your predecessor.  You oughta read a book or two on the civil war or on Lincoln.  There are plenty out there.  The first income tax and income tax laws were enacted under Lincoln to raise money for the Union in the Civil War.  The tax policies then continued onwards to pay the debt and to ensure reconstruction of the South.

The point was the idiot in the video was somehow trying to equate that Lincoln was against taxation and that you "bear the fruits of your labor" or some nonsense like that.  In reality, Lincoln was the first to propose, enact and pass the Income Tax as law.

If you ever talk to some Ron Paulers, they tend to HATE and ABHOR Lincoln for creating the Income Tax.  Ron Paul himself does not think too highly of Lincoln.  For that, I think Ron Paul is a moron.

in case you guys didn't get the point or just wanted to ignore it.  read it slowly.  This context should have been immediately apparent, but obviously not.

[Soul Crusher]

in case you guys didn't get the point or just wanted to ignore it.  read it slowly.  This context should have been immediately apparent, but obviously not.

That guy was a moron.  No question about it.