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Georgetown Says It Covered Over Name of Jesus to Comply With White House Request
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
By Edwin Mora


Photo of Gaston Hall stage that shows symbol "IHS" that was covered up during President Obama's speech to accommodate a White House request. (Wikimedia photo)(CNSNews.com) - Georgetown University says it covered over the monogram “IHS”--symbolizing the name of Jesus Christ—because it was inscribed on a pediment on the stage where President Obama spoke at the university on Tuesday and the White House had asked Georgetown to cover up all signs and symbols there.
 
As of Wednesday afternoon, the “IHS” monogram that had previously adorned the stage at Georgetown’s Gaston Hall was still covered up--when the pediment where it had appeared was photographed by CNSNews.com.


President Obama is greeted by Georgetown University President John J. DeGioia as he arrives to deliver remarks on the economy, April 14, 2009, at Georgetown University. Georgetown had covered the symbol "IHS" on the pediment above and behind the two men. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert) “In coordinating the logistical arrangements for yesterday’s event, Georgetown honored the White House staff’s request to cover all of the Georgetown University signage and symbols behind Gaston Hall stage,” Julie Green Bataille, associate vice president for communications at Georgetown, told CNSNews.com.
 
“The White House wanted a simple backdrop of flags and pipe and drape for the speech, consistent with what they’ve done for other policy speeches,” she added. “Frankly, the pipe and drape wasn’t high enough by itself to fully cover the IHS and cross above the GU seal and it seemed most respectful to have them covered so as not to be seen out of context.”


Pediment in Gaston Hall with "IHS" covered as photographed by CNSNews.com, April 15, 2009. (Photo by Penny Starr,CNSNews.com)On Wednesday, CNSNews.com inspected the pediment embedded in the wall at the back of the stage in Gaston Hall, where Obama delivered his speech. The letters “IHS” were not to be found. They appeared to be shrouded with a triangle of black-painted plywood. 
 
Pictures of the wooden pediment prior to Obama’s speech show the letters “IHS" in gold. Many photos posted on the Internet of other events at Gaston Hall show the letters clearly.
 
The White House did not respond to a request from CNSNews.com to comment on the covering up of Jesus’ name at Gaston Hall.

President Obama speaking at Gaston Hall at Georgetown on April 14 with the "IHS" covered up on the pediment behind him. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert) Georgetown, which is run by the Jesuit order, is one of the most prestigious Catholic institutions of higher education in the United States.
 
Roman Catholics traditionally use “IHS” as an abbreviation for Jesus’ name.  According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, “St. Ignatius of Loyola adopted the monogram in his seal as general of the Society of Jesus (1541) and thus became the emblem of his institute.” The Society of Jesus is the formal name for the Jesuits.


Gaston Hall stage as it looked on the afternoon of April 15 with "IHS" still shrouded. (Photo by Penny Starr, CNSNews.com)Although the monogram was covered over on the wooden pediment at the back of the Gaston Hall stage where it would have been directly above and behind President Obama as he spoke,  the letters “IHS” are posted elsewhere around the hall approximately 26 times on shields representing different parts of the United States and the world.
 
Obama did not mention the name of Jesus during his address. However, he did mention Christ’s Sermon on the Mount.
 
“There is a parable at the end of the Sermon on the Mount that tells a story of two men…‘the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house…it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock,’” Obama said.
 
“We cannot rebuild this economy on the same pile of sand,” he added. “We must build our house upon a rock.”

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This is getting insane.  And DHS wonders why people are getting upset???

Georgetown should be ashamed of itself over this. 


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Seriously... Who gives a shit?

What does this have to do with anything?

You should be ashamed for even acting like this is important... Sad really.

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If it was a picture of some Muslim symbol,NOTHING would have been said or done.Not much of a surprise from someone who believed Rev. Wrights foolishness.

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Seriously... Who gives a shit?

What does this have to do with anything?

You should be ashamed for even acting like this is important... Sad really.

I am not a religious person in the least bit but find this terribly disturbing. 

Yes this is important BTW. 

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I am not a religious person in the least bit but find this terribly disturbing. 

Yes this is important BTW. 

Ok... Why? I don't consider it important at all.

So why do you?

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Ok... Why? I don't consider it important at all.

So why do you?


First: Its a matter of respect.  Obama clearly has none for where he is.   The comments lay out what is wrong with this far more eloguent than I can.

Secon:  Why is a religious institution denying its core self and identity just to accomodate this self labeled messiah?  Georgetown should be ashemed of itself over this.

Third:  Would he have done this in a mosque?  I dont think so. 

Fourth:  It shows a level of arrogance that is very distrubing in someone who obviously thinks he is an emperor or king. 
 


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First: Its a matter of respect.  Obama clearly has none for where he is.   The comments lay out what is wrong with this far more eloguent than I can.

Secon:  Why is a religious institution denying its core self and identity just to accomodate this self labeled messiah?  Georgetown should be ashemed of itself over this.

Third:  Would he have done this in a mosque?  I dont think so. 

Fourth:  It shows a level of arrogance that is very distrubing in someone who obviously thinks he is an emperor or king. 
 



1. I'm a bit confused by how this is tantamount to "respect", he is respecting no religion and following a separation of church and state as far as I can tell to the T.

2. That's on Georgetown, not Obama... If they didn't want to do it, they could have easily said "No."

3. You have absolutely NO basis to say that... So I'll chalk that up to your own wishful thinking. Please don't talk about things you have no real fact about.

4. He's the HMFIC of the US... The POTUS. You know... The last real Superpower. He should have a little pride... And as far as having some Emperor complex, please stop. He has been the most respectful and straight talking President we've had in recent history... Why do you make up these fallacies?


Why didn't you care about the Imperialistic nature of the President when Bush was in Office? Why didn't you care that Bush talked about his God all of the time? Where was your anger when he illegally wiretapped US citizens?

Seriously... Why all of this anger NOW? Because he's a Dem? Because he's black? Why NOW?

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I have always bashed Bush.  The list is too long for me to describe.

This thing though seems to me an example of seeing what he can get away with and how far institutions arw willing to bend to accomodate themselves.

This is almost entirely on Georgetown, I agree.

Were I the head of Georgetown, I would never have accomodated this.. 

Dont people have any pride anymore?


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Ok... Why? I don't consider it important at all.

So why do you?

On a scale of 0-10 this is a zero.  And I say this as someone who graduated from Georgetown.  ::)

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On a scale of 0-10 this is a zero.  And I say this as someone who graduated from Georgetown.  ::)

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Jesus-Missing-From-Obamas-Georgetown-Speech.html?corder=&pg=15#comments


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This aggravates the hell out of me!!!!!

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Ok... Why? I don't consider it important at all.

So why do you?
It is very disrespectful for the University to behave like that. Why do they feel like they can block the name of Jesus out???? If this is true, it is very disrespectful!!!!! No NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF THING TO GO ON!

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1. I'm a bit confused by how this is tantamount to "respect", he is respecting no religion and following a separation of church and state as far as I can tell to the T.

2. That's on Georgetown, not Obama... If they didn't want to do it, they could have easily said "No."

3. You have absolutely NO basis to say that... So I'll chalk that up to your own wishful thinking. Please don't talk about things you have no real fact about.

4. He's the HMFIC of the US... The POTUS. You know... The last real Superpower. He should have a little pride... And as far as having some Emperor complex, please stop. He has been the most respectful and straight talking President we've had in recent history... Why do you make up these fallacies?


Why didn't you care about the Imperialistic nature of the President when Bush was in Office? Why didn't you care that Bush talked about his God all of the time? Where was your anger when he illegally wiretapped US citizens?

Seriously... Why all of this anger NOW? Because he's a Dem? Because he's black? Why NOW?

George Bush was a tool who got us into a war not because of oil,not because of WMDs,but because he thought by fighting Isreals battles he could help bring the coming of Christ.Hes a kook.

Now,my question is,the left ranted against EVERYTHING Bush did.Why are you not outraged Obama is keeping 50,000 troops in Iraq.Why are you not outraged that he is keeping the surveilance programs?Why are you not outraged that he is going to tripple the deficit?You guys bashed Bush every day for 8 years and now,when Obama does the same things,your mute.

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On a scale of 0-10 this is a zero.  And I say this as someone who graduated from Georgetown.  ::)
Sir........... you should be ashamed of Georgetown for carrying this out.
This is another reason why the liberal movement is a joke IMHO!!!!!! How can people be a party to this nonsense, especially after we just celebrated Easter not even a week ago.

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George Bush was a tool who got us into a war not because of oil,not because of WMDs,but because he thought by fighting Isreals battles he could help bring the coming of Christ.Hes a kook.

Now,my question is,the left ranted against EVERYTHING Bush did.Why are you not outraged Obama is keeping 50,000 troops in Iraq.Why are you not outraged that he is keeping the surveilance programs?Why are you not outraged that he is going to tripple the deficit?You guys bashed Bush every day for 8 years and now,when Obama does the same things,your mute.
I agree with this gentleman wholeheartedly......... finally an accurate statement has been made. Obama is a walking contradiction.......

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George Bush was a tool who got us into a war not because of oil,not because of WMDs,but because he thought by fighting Isreals battles he could help bring the coming of Christ.Hes a kook.

Now,my question is,the left ranted against EVERYTHING Bush did.Why are you not outraged Obama is keeping 50,000 troops in Iraq.Why are you not outraged that he is keeping the surveilance programs?Why are you not outraged that he is going to tripple the deficit?You guys bashed Bush every day for 8 years and now,when Obama does the same things,your mute.

I am not mute... not at all... I am very upset at the surveillance programs... Extremely upset by the deficit, but I feel that the deficit needs to be tripled to kickstart our economy.

I am not sure why you think everyone is so enthralled with Obama... I think he should be given his 1 year to work on his economic fixes and make changes... People DID let Bush go on for 8 years of ridiculousness... Shouldn't they give Obama 1?

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George Bush was a tool who got us into a war not because of oil,not because of WMDs,but because he thought by fighting Isreals battles he could help bring the coming of Christ.Hes a kook.

Now,my question is,the left ranted against EVERYTHING Bush did.Why are you not outraged Obama is keeping 50,000 troops in Iraq.Why are you not outraged that he is keeping the surveilance programs?Why are you not outraged that he is going to tripple the deficit?You guys bashed Bush every day for 8 years and now,when Obama does the same things,your mute.

You mean just like the Republicans were mute when Bush was doing it?
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You mean just like the Republicans were mute when Bush was doing it?

Many were, but conservatives were not silent and were some of his worst critics on many issues.

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This is lame as hell.  Who would want Jesus symbology behind them after all the messiah crap righties have spewed over the last year.  It's easy to start picking out the "never listen to a thing they say" people when they post stories that are a no win scenario.  If he had it visible, out comes the Messiah talk again.  If he doesn't have it visible, nail him for covering it up.  If he approves taking out pirates, nail him for showboating for ratings and defend the pirates.  If he does not approve of shooting the pirates, nail him for making us unsafe and denounce the pirates.  I'm really starting to see a lot of these no win situations for Obama and it reeks of desperation.  If you guys really think it helps your cause to post shit like this, go ahead I guess.   ::)

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What a dumb, paranoid thing to do ask for.  And Georgetown should have simply said "no."   

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Its about respect and class.  He has none whatsoever.

When someone invites you somewhere, you dont start making demands to take down or cover up the most important symbols of the host.  

Obama will bow down to the King of SA (Which is not protocol BTW) yet will demand that a sybmol of Jesus be covered up?????

I have a serious problem with that.  

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What a dumb, paranoid thing to do ask for.  And Georgetown should have simply said "no."   

Georgetown completely sold their soul.  Shame on them.

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George Bush was a tool who got us into a war not because of oil,not because of WMDs,but because he thought by fighting Isreals battles he could help bring the coming of Christ.Hes a kook.

Now,my question is,the left ranted against EVERYTHING Bush did.Why are you not outraged Obama is keeping 50,000 troops in Iraq.Why are you not outraged that he is keeping the surveilance programs?Why are you not outraged that he is going to tripple the deficit?You guys bashed Bush every day for 8 years and now,when Obama does the same things,your mute.
because so many idiots have us busy posting on lame ass stupid stories like this.  Hell yes we should be talking about those things and more, but it's a constant non ending distraction.  Even this tea bagging bullshit takes everything away from the things we all should be talking about.  Got a bunch of people yelling they're mad as hell at taxes in the streets, while the guys who caused the biggest mess in America and have a history of doing so and will be back for more, wipe the sweat from their brows and relax a little. 

dumb dumb dumb and some whip cream for your dumb...  enjoy ::)

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Georgetown completely sold their soul.  Shame on them.

I agree. 

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The people who helped cause this mess are the democrats in congress, the people getting bailed out by Obama, the people obama are hiring for his staff and treasury, Geithner, Paulson, Bush, etc.

You guys voted for Obama and he is the one teaming up with AIG, Geithner, the wall street banksters etc.

I dont see liberals on the left screaming about Obama's appointments and bailouts.